M8A1

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75 mm Gun Motor Carriage M8
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AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
2.7/2.7/2.7BR
4 peopleCrew
Mobility
15.6 tWeight
8 forward
2 back
Gear box
Armament
46 roundsAmmunition
-10° / 30°Vertical guidance
12.7 mm M2HB machine gunWeapon 2
1 000 roundsAmmunition
200 roundsBelt capacity
577 shots/minFire rate
-5° / 70°Vertical guidance
Economy
Sl icon.png470/530/460Repair
450 Sl icon.pngCrew training
3 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
40 Ge icon.pngAces
x 2.00 Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

GarageImage M8A1GMC.jpg


The 75 mm Gun Motor Carriage M8 is a gift rank I American tank destroyer with a battle rating of 2.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.45 "Steel Generals", along with all other American tanks, but wasn't available until Winter of the 2014 as an unlockable gift in the "War Thunder Christmas Special". After that, the M8A1 became available again as a Warbond shop reward as part of War Thunder's 4th anniversary.

An upgunned M8 Scott armed with 75 mm M3 gun, the M8A1 is a light tank destroyer capable of flanking & destroying enemy tanks at the same time with its outstanding mobility.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 28.5 mm (49-50°) Front glacis
44.1 mm (15-45°) Lower glacis
28.5 mm Top
28.5 + 5 mm Bottom
28.5 + 5 mm (2-46°) Top
25.4 mm (2-21°) Bottom
12.7 mm
Turret 38.1 mm (6-32°) Turret front
38.1 mm (13-62°) Gun mantlet
25.4 mm (20°) 25.4 mm (1°) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension bogies and wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 10 mm thick.
  • Tracks laid out on the turret side give an additional 10 mm of armour where they are stacked.
  • Sandskirts on the bottom hull give additional 5 mm thickness.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
15.6 N/A 61 (AB)
56 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 419 516
Realistic/Simulator 261 295
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 26.86 33.08
Realistic/Simulator 16.73 18.91

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: M3 (75 mm)
75 mm M3
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
46 -10°/+30° ±180°
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 7.10 9.90 12.00 __.__ __.__
Realistic 7.10 8.40 10.20 11.28 12.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
8.71 7.71 7.10 6.70
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
M72 shot AP 110 109 92 76 62 51
M48 shell HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
M61 shot APCBC 90 88 81 73 65 59
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
M72 shot 619 6.3 N/A N/A N/A -1° 47° 60° 65°
M48 shell 463 6.3 0.4 0.5 666 +0° 79° 80° 81°
M61 shot 618 6.8 1.2 20 63.7 +4° 48° 63° 71°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
M89 259 3 13 5 20 50
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the M8A1 GMC.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
46 35 (+11) 23 (+23) 12 (+34) (+45) Yes

Machine guns

Main article: M2HB (12.7 mm)
12.7 mm M2HB
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
1,000 (200) 576 -5°/+70° ±180°

Usage in battles

This vehicle plays along with the American concept of the tank destroyers, fast and powerful, but lacking in armour. Using the terrain for cover is necessary to survive against the enemy shells, plus constant repositioning is needed to keep the enemy guessing where the M8A1 is located. However, if able to get the jump on the enemy, the 75 mm gun on this vehicle can destroy the vehicles at its rank and the addition of the .50 cal M2 Browning on top aids its versatility against lightly armoured vehicle and aircraft.

The main tactic for this vehicle is Shoot and Scoot, constant repositioning after every shot as the armour on the M8A1 is rather thin for its battle rating. If hiding behind a rock, pop up from one side then the other rather than just from one side to force the enemy to spend milliseconds reacquiring the M8A1 in their sights, milliseconds that can put the favor of the battle to the M8A1. This involves many trick and will take some time to learn, but once learned, the M8A1 will be a huge assist to the team. Be careful to not get greedy and trigger-happy, the exposure trying to get a target may result in a loss, so play conservatively and know full well when that sometimes there will only be assist and move on. An M8A1 that is used properly is such a powerful tool that it can single handily swing the game. That being said one unlucky second and it is a pile of charred metal, due to the huge amount of ammo crammed into such a small area

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Multirole (tank destroyer / light tank role)
  • 75 mm M3 gun taken from M4A1 Sherman, strapped onto M5A1 Stuart tank form
  • Rapid rate of fire at 8.95 RPM (6.7 s reload time)
  • Can easily destroy every tank it faces
  • Reaches top speed (56 km/h) relatively fast
  • High acceleration (42 km/h) for a light tank carrying 75 mm gun
  • Doesn't lose speed drastically upon turning
  • Flanks so well as a light tank (exactly like M5A1 Stuart)
  • Decent turret traverse with Ace Crew up to 11.9°/s
  • .50 cal machine gun can eliminate low flying aircraft & speeding light tanks such as BT-7
  • .50 cal machine gun is low profile unlike many other American tanks, making it easier to hide
  • No ammunition is stored inside the turret
  • Commonly misidentified as short-gunned M8 Scott

Cons:

  • Considerably big for a light tank destroyer
  • Gun breaks down if the mantlet is penetrated
  • Slippy maneuverability
  • Prone to drifting
  • Below average turret traverse rate for an American tank
  • Light tank armour, cannot withstand hit
  • Open topped turret (which exposes the crew & ammo rack) can be barraged by artillery & airstrikes
  • All of its ammunition are stacked in every corner inside center compartment, single explosion in the middle of the hull can explode the ammo racks.
  • Usually becomes a priority target when spotted due to its armament & mobility

History

Development

In United State's entry into World War II, the troops in the front lines require a support vehicle similar to those in use by the German forces in the form of the StuG III. The project for such vehicle began as a design submitted in late 1941, which was a M5 Light Tank mated with a howitzer on the hull front, designated the T41. This design didn't pass as the howitzer on the hull sacrificed crew protection. The design was revised on the same M5 light tank and instead had the M5 turret removed and replaced with an open-topped turret similar to the US tank destroyers M10 and M18, which mounted a 75 mm howitzer. This change caused the hatches for the driver and assistant driver to be placed on the glacis front rather than the hull roof. This design, called the T17E1 HMC was approved and put into production under the designation 75 mm Howitzer Motor Carriage M8, or the M8 Scott. The 75 mm M2 howitzer was the initial armament of the M8 before switching to the updated 75 mm M3 howitzer on the M8A1 variant. The howitzer was capbale of firing smoke M89 or high-explosive M48 rounds, the vehicle could hold 46 of these 75 mm rounds. The M8 does not have any machine guns on the coaxial or hull-mounted area, but a .50 cal Browning was mounted on the rear right corner of the turret for infantry defense. The vehicle was put into production in April 1942 and continued until January 1944, of which a total of 1,778 units were produced by Cadillac only.

Combat usage

These vehicles would go on to serve in the Italian Campaign, European Campaign, and in the Pacific in the hands of the US Army. The M8 saw use in American service until the M7 Priest 105 mm self-propelled gun could be fielded in large numbers, which stopped the M8 production and service in American units. After being phased out of American service, the M8 was then given to the Free French forces that use them in the Western Front of the European operations. The French continue to use them all the way to 1954 in the French-Indochina conflict in use by South-Vietnamese forces. Other users of the M8 included the Khmers national army, Laos, China, and the Philippines.

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USA tank destroyers
Early projects  75 mm Gun Motor Carriage M3 · 75 mm Howitzer Motor Carriage M8 · 75 mm Gun Motor Carriage M8
Based on M4  3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10 · 90-mm Gun Motor Carriage M36
M18  M18 Gun Motor Carriage · M18 Gun Motor Carriage "Black Cat" · M18 90-mm Gun Motor Carriage
T95  Super Heavy Tank T28 · 105 mm Gun Motor Carriage T95
China  LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2
Post-war  M50 · M56 · T114 · M901 ITV

USA premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  Light Tank M2A4 (1st Arm.Div.) · Light Tank M3A1 Stuart (USMC) · Light Armored Car M8 · M5A1 Stuart (5th Canadian Armored Division) · T18E2 "Boarhound"
Medium tanks  Cruiser Tank Grant I · M4A5 Ram II · Rocket Launcher T34 Calliope · T20 · Medium Tank M26 T99 · Medium Tank M26E1 · Medium Tank M46 Patton (73 Tank Batalion) · Magach 3 · Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 105-mm Gun XM-1 (GM) · Tank, Combat, Full-Tracked, 105-mm Gun XM-1 (Chrysler) · T54E1
Heavy tanks  Assault Tank T14 · Assault Tank M4A3E2 Jumbo "Cobra King" · Heavy Tank T29 · Heavy Tank T30
Tank destroyers  75 mm Gun Motor Carriage M8 · M18 Gun Motor Carriage "Black Cat" · M18 90-mm Gun Motor Carriage · Super Heavy Tank T28 · T114