AEC Mk II

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Armoured Car, AEC Mk II
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AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
3.0/3.0/3.0BR
4 peopleCrew
90 %Visibility
front / side / backArmour
17 / 25 / 14Hull
31 / 25 / 20Turret
Mobility
12.8 tWeight
315 hp165 hpEngine power
24.6 hp/t12.9 hp/tPower-to-weight ratio
76 km/h forward
10 km/h back
68 km/h forward
9 km/h back
Speed
Armament
57 mm 6pdr OQF Mk.V cannonMain weapon
60 roundsAmmunition
4 / 5.2 sReload
-10° / 20°Vertical guidance
shoulderStabilizer
7.92 mm BESA machine gunCoaxial weapon
3375 roundsAmmunition
8 / 10.4 sReload
225 roundsBelt capacity
600 shots/minFire rate
Economy
Sl icon.png2500/2100/1400Repair
8100 Sl icon.pngCrew training
54000 Sl icon.pngExperts
210 Ge icon.pngAces
124 × 2 Talisman.png % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
60 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png50 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png30 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage AEC Mk.II.jpg


The Armoured Car, AEC Mk II is a gift rank II British light tank with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.75 "La Résistance" in the 2017 "Festive Quest" that took place between 22 December 2017 to 22 January 2018. It was obtained via completing 7 tanker's Christmas toys.

The AEC Mk. II looks fairly similar to the Armored Car Mk.II AA, mostly because it is, just with a different turret housing a 57 mm 6-Pounder cannon, rather than two synchronized Oerlikon 20 mm Anti-Aircraft cannons. As such, the vehicle has a lower profile than its predecessor, which grants it more stealth capabilities. In addition, there is a 7.62 mm BESA machine gun for use, which is nice for dealing with lightly armoured targets such as open-topped Anti-Aircraft vehicles and SPGs.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Structural steel (Sand skirts)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 25 mm (63-78°) Front glacis
10 mm (41°) Lower glacis
5 mm (49°) + 57 mm Joint plate
16 mm (0-1°) 16 mm (58°) Top
16 mm (13-14°) Bottom
16 mm
Turret 57 mm (0-1°) Turret front
31 mm (0-45°) Gun mantlet
25 mm (0-1°) 25 mm (0-60°) 16 mm

Notes:

  • Wheels are 2 mm thick.
  • Chassis is 5 mm thick.

Being very thinly armoured, the AEC Mk II is very vulnerable to heavy machine gun strafings, artillery strikes and even ammo rack detonations from nearby vehicles.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 76 10 12.8 256 315 20 24.61
Realistic 68 9 146 165 11.41 12.89

Being an armoured car, the AEC Mk II is a light vehicle. It accelerates quickly and has a good cruise speed on hard surfaces (solid ground, roads). While your top speed is high, your cruise speed will be around 50 km/h. As it is equipped with tires, the AEC Mk II struggles on soft terrain (sand, mud, snow). The reverse speed is also poor for a light armoured car. The AEC Mk II is average at fording: 17 km/h and loses quickly speed when driving uphill. Another important point to take into account is the turn radius: like all WW2 wheeled vehicles, you can not turn on the spot and always need space to change direction. The bigger the speed, the bigger the turn radius. You will also need more distance to come to a full stop and braking while turning will cause your vehicle to go into an uncontrolled skid.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: 6pdr OQF Mk.V (57 mm)
57 mm OQF 6-pounder Mk.V Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 60 -10°/+20° ±180° Vertical 22.9 31.6 38.4 42.5 45.2 5.2 4.6 4.2 4.0
Realistic 14.3 16.8 20.4 22.6 24.0
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot Mk.8 APC 116 111 94 76 62 50
Shot Mk.5 HV AP 115 111 93 75 60 49
Shot Mk.9 APCBC 132 127 110 91 75 63
Shell Mk.10 HE 9 9 9 9 9 9
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot Mk.8 APC 883 2.9 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Shot Mk.5 HV AP 891 2.8 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
Shot Mk.9 APCBC 847 3.2 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Shell Mk.10 HE 655 2.7 0.1 0.1 590 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AEC Mk II
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
60 45 (+15) 39 (+21) 31 (+29) 23 (+37) 10 (+50) (+59) No

Notes:

  • To go into battle with the turret empty of ammo, pack 31 (+29) shells (racks 1 & 2 emptied).
  • As they are modeled by sets of 2 or 3, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.


Machine guns

Main article: BESA (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm BESA
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 3,375 (225) 600 N/A N/A

The small caliber of the BESA machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help.

Usage in battles

The AEC Mk. II is to play mainly in the role of flanking and reconnaissance. Due to the high speed and thin armour, it is ill-advised to use this vehicle in frontal assaults. Added to the new mechanic of active scouting for light tanks, it is rewarding to be an effective scout by highlighting targets for allies, thus farming SP and experience from their assistance. However, the AEC isn't as small as a scout-like the American M22 Locust, so scouting and flanking can be risky if done incorrectly. That being said, the AEC also have the same 6-Pounder cannon found on the Crusader Mk III, Churchill Mk III, Cromwell Mk I and the Valentine Mk IX, so the AEC has a fast rate-of-fire with an excellent muzzle velocity. Here are some methods for maximizing not only combat effectiveness but also the chances of surviving.

The first method of using this vehicle is for reconnaissance. Since the addition of the "active scouting" mechanic, light tanks have the ability to report the position of enemy vehicles to allies. When fulfilling the role of scouting in this vehicle, find a position that is concealed, but that gives a clear view sight of the battlefield. This is most helpful for farming Spawn Points and experience given that when an allied vehicle destroys an enemy player being actively scouted, granting a 50% reward of what the allied player was awarded. This can work best when paired with allied tank destroyers for dislodging stubborn enemy defenders holding down key positions.

The second method of using this vehicle is flanking. When using this as a flanker, try to use the terrain for the advantage and end up on the enemy's flank. Coupled with the AEC's fast speed, it shouldn't be too difficult to get up to speed if the terrain is favourable, as muddy terrain will severely inhibit the ability to manoeuvre. After all, the AEC is still a wheeled vehicle, so don't expect to speed overall terrains as in a tank. Nonetheless, when on the enemy's flank, ensure that it is a spot that isn't as exposed as others. Then, start pumping shots into the sides of the enemy tanks. It is highly recommended to fire a few shots then relocate, thus preventing the enemy from triangulating the AEC's firing location. It doesn't hurt to use "active scouting" as well, to notify allies of an incoming enemy armour movement.

With very light armour, this renders the AEC vehicle highly exposed to any form of enemy fire except machine gunfire. However, at the Battle-Rating of 3.0, there are some adversaries that deserve special note.

  • German Vehicles

The AEC's greatest adversary is most likely the Panzer IV F2, due to its long-barreled 75 mm cannon, which can punch right through the armour- even from long range. In addition, any later model of the Panzer III is going to give severe problems due to their long-barreled 50 mm cannon, which has a rapid rate-of-fire. As laughable as it sounds, the Flakpanzer I and the Gepard will also shred the AEC, as a result of their ability to use the HVAP-T round for their 20 mm cannons, which have a murderous rate-of-fire. In Battle-Rating 3.3 matches, stay away from a Flakpanzer Wirbelwind at all costs, as the sheer volume of their fire will utterly obliterate the AEC, even if they do not have the HVAP-T round. The most dangerous opponent in respect to the AEC is the Sd.Kfz.234/2 "Puma," due to its amazing speed and a high-velocity 50 mm cannon. The Marder series will also give issues, due to their high-velocity cannons.

  • Soviet Vehicles

The Soviets have the most tanks with heavy armour, which can make it difficult for even for the 6-Pounder to punch through. That being said, a KV-1 is going to give a lot of problems, even at close ranges. In addition to that, the most abundant Soviet threat is going to be the T-34, due to its fast speed and sloping armour, which has the chances to bounce a shell, even at close range, if the tank is angled well enough. The most dangerous opponent is the SU-122, due to the 122 mm howitzer it carries, which doesn't need to make a direct hit if firing High-Explosive shells. In addition, the 29-K boasts a high-velocity 76 mm cannon, which will tear through the AEC's armour even at long ranges.

  • Japanese Vehicles

Japanese vehicles may not have the strongest armour for their tanks, but their guns will make anyone think twice. Most notable of these is the Chi-Nu and the Ho-Ni III, which have high-velocity 75 mm cannons, which will rip through most armour at medium to long-range. The So-Ki SPAA can also rip through the AEC due to the twin 25 mm cannons. In addition, the M24 Chaffee (Self-Defense Force) boasts a 75 mm cannon and a .50 Caliber machine gun, which can bore through the thin armour.

  • French Vehicles

The French also have some vehicles that are heavily armoured. Most notable of them being the Char B1 bis and the Char B1 ter. The Char B1 ter is probably most notable of them, due to the ridiculous amount of armour from the front. The SAu 40 is a viable threat, thanks to its 75 mm cannon. It is also plausible to face the French M4A1 Sherman, which not only has enough armour to possibly bounce the 6-pdr shells but a 75 mm cannon and a .50 Caliber machine gun, which is notorious for tearing through just about any lightly-armoured vehicle. It is also important to note that the GMC CCKW (40 mm Bofors AA truck) is a major threat to the AEC, due to the Bofors 40 mm heavy Anti-Aircraft cannon it wields.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tires Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Shot Mk.5 HV Adjustment of fire Airstrike
III Filters Crew Replenishment Shot Mk.9 Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support Improved optics Smoke grenade
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful 57 mm with high penetration and excellent fragmentation
  • One of the two British scout tanks, next one being rank VI Warrior
  • Fast reload
  • Fast turret traverse
  • Excellent 12 degrees of gun depression
  • Very mobile, especially on hard surfaces. At 87km/h it is one of the fastest vehicles in-game
  • Turret has decent armour for an armoured car, can take some hits from autocannons and low-rank guns
  • Weak armour can sometimes be over penetrated
  • Small turning circle
  • 7.52 mm BESA machine gun has a superb rate-of-fire and is effective against open-topped vehicles

Cons:

  • Hull armour, though well sloped, 20 mm autocannons and above will penetrate it
  • Cross country performance is not as good as tracked vehicles
  • Gets bogged down easily in mud
  • Cannot turn on the spot
  • Only three crew members, a hit centre mass will take the AEC out instantly
  • Aircraft with cannons are a threat
  • Artillery is dangerous

History

The Associated Equipment Co. (AEC) Ltd. company, which made London's double-decker buses, put forth an unsolicited design for a heavy armoured car, based on their Matador MAT (medium artillery tractor). The army was disinclined at first, but Prime Minister Churchill intervened in AEC's favour. The Mark I model carried a 2-pounder in a Valentine tank turret. Some of these were sent for use in North Africa. The Mark II, which had increased horsepower and a new three-man turret with the 6-pounder, was only produced in small numbers. Approximately 24 were given to Yugoslavian partisans in late 1944.

This would be followed by the Mark III, mounting the British 75mm gun, making it the most powerful armoured car of the war, and used in Western Europe alongside the 75mm armed US M3 GMC half-track in the heavy troop of British armoured car squadrons. A total of 122 Mark Is and 507 Mark IIs/IIIs were built. Sometimes referred to as "Junies" or "Matadors."

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See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Vehicles equipped with the same gun
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Britain light tanks
Armoured cars  Daimler Mk II · AEC Mk II
A13  A13 Mk I · A13 Mk I (3rd R.T.R.) · A13 Mk II · A13 Mk II 1939
A15  Crusader II · Crusader "The Saint" · Crusader III
A17  Tetrarch Mk I
Post war  Warrior
Foreign  Stuart I (USA) · Stuart III (USA) · Rooikat Mk.1D (South Africa)

Britain premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  A13 Mk I (3rd R.T.R.) · A13 Mk II 1939 · AEC Mk II · Crusader "The Saint"
Medium tanks  Grant I · Cromwell V (RP-3) · Sherman IC "Trzyniec" · A.C.IV · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
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