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[[M4 748 (a) (Germany)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
 
[[M4 748 (a) (Germany)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
  
=== Soviet tree (in progress)===
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=== Soviet tree (finished)===
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 
|-
 
|-
 
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 
|-
 
|-
| [[BT-5]] || 487 HP || 696 HP ||  ||  
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| [[BT-5]] || 487 HP || 696 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-5-1]] || 157 HP || 172 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-5-1]] || 157 HP || 172 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[GAZ-AAA (4M)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  
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| [[GAZ-AAA (4M)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[GAZ-AAA (DShK)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  
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| [[GAZ-AAA (DShK)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[T-35]] || 795 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  
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| [[T-35]] || 795 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-57]] || 259 HP || 282 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-57]] || 259 HP || 282 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[BM-8-24]] || 133 HP || 145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[BM-8-24]] || 133 HP || 145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[T-III (USSR)]] ||  ||  || 21.8t || 21.3t
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| [[T-III (USSR)]] ||  ||  || 21.8t || 21.3t ||
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ZiS-30]] || 87 HP || 95 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ZiS-30]] || 87 HP || 95 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[GAZ-MM (72-K)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  
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| [[GAZ-MM (72-K)]] || 100 HP || 109 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[BM-13N]] || 164 HP || 179 HP ||  ||  
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| [[BM-13N]] || 164 HP || 179 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-1 (L-11)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-1 (L-11)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-76M]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-76M]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[BTR-152A]] || 192 HP || 210 HP ||  ||  
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| [[BTR-152A]] || 192 HP || 210 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps)]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-1S]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || 41.4t || 42.5t
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| [[KV-1S]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP || 41.4t || 42.5t ||
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-122]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-122]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ZiS-12 (94-KM)]] || 122 HP || 134 HP || 3.0t || 7.0t
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| [[ZiS-12 (94-KM)]] || 122 HP || 134 HP || 3.0t || 7.0t ||
 
|-
 
|-
| [[MK-II "Matilda" (USSR)]] || 302 HP || 363 HP ||  ||  
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| [[MK-II "Matilda" (USSR)]] || 302 HP || 363 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ZUT-37]] || 297 HP || 324 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ZUT-37]] || 297 HP || 324 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-85A]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-85A]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SMK]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SMK]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-1 (ZiS-5)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ASU-57]] || 96 HP || 105 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ASU-57]] || 96 HP || 105 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-57B]] || 182 HP || 198 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-57B]] || 182 HP || 198 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[YaG-10 (29-K)]] || 164 HP || 177 HP ||  ||  
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| [[YaG-10 (29-K)]] || 164 HP || 177 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-2 (1940)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-2 (1940)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-2 (1939)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-2 (1939)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-85]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-85]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-85]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-85]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-85M]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-85M]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ZiS-43]] || 157 HP || 172 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ZiS-43]] || 157 HP || 172 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-100Y]] || 1486 HP || 162  HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-100Y]] || 1486 HP || 162  HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[IS-1]] || 827 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  
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| [[IS-1]] || 827 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[SU-152]] || 1049 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[SU-152]] || 1049 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-2 (ZiS-6)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-2 (ZiS-6)]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-1E]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-1E]] || 954 HP || 1145 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[Type 65 (USSR)]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  
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| [[Type 65 (USSR)]] || 874 HP || 954 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-220]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-220]] || 1351 HP || 1622 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ISU-152]] || 909 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ISU-152]] || 909 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[ZSU-37]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  
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| [[ZSU-37]] || 245 HP || 267 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| [[KV-122]] || 827 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  
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| [[KV-122]] || 827 HP || 992 HP ||  ||  ||  
 
|}
 
|}
 
[[T-34 (Prototype)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
 
[[T-34 (Prototype)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
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|-
 
|-
 
| [[Object 268]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP ||  ||  || 10.03.2020
 
| [[Object 268]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP ||  ||  || 10.03.2020
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|-
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| [[T-10M]] || 1192 HP || 1431 HP ||  ||  || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[Object 906]] ||  ||  || 14.8t || 15.0t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[ZSU-23-4]] || 490 HP || 534 HP || 20.7t || 21.0t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[BMP-2]] ||  ||  || 14.0t || 13.2t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[Shturm-S]] || 420 HP || 458 HP ||  ||  || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[T-64B]] ||  ||  || 40.1t || 39.0t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[T-72A]] ||  ||  || 41.0t || 40.2t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[T-80B]] ||  ||  || 42.5t || 42.0t || 11.03.2020
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|-
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| [[ZPRK 2S6]] || 1240 HP || 1355 HP || 34.6t || 34.0t || 11.03.2020
 
|}  
 
|}  
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The weight discrepancy for [[BMP-2]], [[T-64B]], [[T-72A]] and [[T-80B]] comes from the fact that the add-on armor weight is removed twice. The add-on armor weight is most likely not counted in the total weight of the vehicle.
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{{Sp-end}}  
 
{{Sp-end}}  
 
Is there a way to correct that? --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 
Is there a way to correct that? --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Revision as of 17:22, 11 March 2020

Msg-info.png User talk:DnaGonite/Archive/2019

Mobility template

Hello, I've been using the Mobility Template Template:TankMobility lately but I've noticed a lot of discrepancies between in-game values and the wiki.



Is there a way to correct that? --Colok76286 (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello. The R3 T106 FA discrepancy is due to a difference in rounding strategies between the wiki and the game. Any values that are automatically inserted and seem to be off by +- 1 on the last digit are likely just rounding errors, and I'm not sure how much can be done to remedy them. As for the other values, I will see if we can get the database maintainer to check/correct the values. Could you check your values for M4 Tipo IC, as they don't seem to agree with either the game or the wiki. -DnaGonite (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --Colok76286 (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --Colok76286 (talk) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
This is the guy in charge of the numbers User:VolgaIgor--blastedryan (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
There's nothing wrong with continuing updating the list here, however (unless DnaGonite is getting annoyed by the new talk notifications). The list has already been forwarded for investigation.--Inceptor57 (talk) 08:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --Colok76286 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -DnaGonite (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Based on the numbers that were in the wiki already, the fact that many tanks use the same engine (M60 family, M1 family, etc.) and the fact that the difference between HP Stock and Upgraded is a multiplier of around 1.23. But feel free to recheck the end of the list or have it rechecked by someone owning the tanks. I have everything spaded until BR 6.3 included (and also the T30). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Naval weapons charts

Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to 3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm). I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -Vianočka (talk) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -DnaGonite (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Creating a category

I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Colok. Vehicle categories should already be automatically inputted into the page via the spec card template at the top. These categories represent what the vehicle is classified as in the game at the time. Creation of custom categories for these vehicle pages or branching existing ones vehicles that are not classified in those categories in the game are generally discouraged. However, the creation of a template table to categorize such vehicles is not out of the question, similar to how we have manufacturer template tables for plane. This can be arranged to have one created for multi-turreted tanks. If you have complications in making one, we can assist in having one made in the future. --Inceptor57 (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the answer. I am fine with a simple Wiki page if categories must reflect in-game classification. --Colok76286 (talk) 19:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)