Waffentrager

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Waffenträger
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Waffenträger
AB RB SB
5.7 5.7 5.7
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Purchase:170 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Waffenträger Krupp-Steyr mit Pak 43 is a rank IV German tank destroyer with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.71 "New E.R.A.".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull20 / 10 / 10
Turret20 / 10 / 10
Crew4 people
Visibility68 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (76°), 20 mm (46°) Front glacis
5 mm (46°) Engine grille
20 mm (44°) Lower glacis
10 mm (46°) Crew ports
10 mm (25°) Top
10 mm Bottom
10 mm (26°) Top
10 mm (15°) Bottom
5 mm
Turret 20 mm (41°) Turret front
20 mm (5-46°) Gun mantlet
10 mm (22-24°) 10 mm (24°) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick, and tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 5 mm thick.
  • A 10 mm structural steel plate covers the engine from the crew.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 8 km/h
RB and SB35 / 7 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
4 back
Weight17.0 t
Engine power
AB267 hp
RB and SB140 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB15.7 hp/t
RB and SB8.2 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 8 17 199 267 11.71 15.71
Realistic 35 7 124 140 7.29 8.24

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB7 200 → 8 906 Sl icon.png
RB3 490 → 4 317 Sl icon.png
SB4 720 → 5 838 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications40 500 Rp icon.png
78 400 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training48 000 Sl icon.png
Experts170 000 Sl icon.png
Aces630 Ge icon.png
Research Aces440 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 160 / 240 % Sl icon.png
160 / 160 / 160 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Parts
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
FPE
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement ger.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
88mm_kwk_36_43_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
88mm_kwk_36_43_APCR_ammo_pack
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png

After the Parts modification, the most useful upgrades are the Horizontal Drive, Adjustment of Fire, and Mobility modules.

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition30 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
11.1 → 8.5 s
Vertical guidance-8° / 45°
Main article: PaK43 (88 mm)
88 mm PaK43 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 30 -8°/+45° ±180° N/A 11.33 15.68 19.04 21.06 22.40 11.05 9.78 9.01 8.50
Realistic 8.33 9.80 11.90 13.16 14.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 237 234 222 207 194 181
PzGr 40/43 APCR 279 273 252 227 205 185
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 110 110 110 110 110 110
Sprgr.43 HE 14 14 14 14 14 14
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
PzGr 39/43 APCBC 1,000 10.16 1.2 14 108.8 48° 63° 71°
PzGr 40/43 APCR 1,130 7.3 N/A N/A N/A 66° 70° 72°
Hl.Gr 39 HEAT 600 7.64 0 0.3 1,100 62° 69° 73°
Sprgr.43 HE 820 9.4 0 0.1 1,000 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Waffentrager
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
30 26 (+4) 21 (+9) 16 (+14) 11 (+19) (+29) No

Right side empty: 21 (+9)

Usage in battles

Despite its fully-traversable turret, the Waffenträger is a classic tank destroyer. It has a potent gun, which can defeat almost any heavy tank at this tier, even at long ranges. The shells have great penetration, great explosive filler, and above-average velocity for the tier. The vehicle even has a better-than-average reload speed. (Note: keep in mind that the Waffenträger is not equipped with any machine guns.)

However, this vehicle also has poor mobility. It's just slow (both forwards and reverse), especially when stock and acceleration are poor. The tank struggles on slopes and is completely unsuited for close-up brawling. Another downside to this vehicle is its poor armour setup. Although the armour protection can defend against machine-gun fire, any cannon shell will penetrate with ease. High explosive shells may also overpressure the vehicle. And finally, the open-top turret compartment is vulnerable to aircraft and artillery fire. Therefore, it may be necessary to work with SPAA teammates and find cover under trees or behind buildings.

In addition to the poor mobility, the Waffenträger suffers a lack of gun depression when the cannon is pivoted above the radio operator's or driver's hatch, so careful hull placement is required when engaging targets below your slope level. The Waffenträger also suffers a reduced reload rate due to its cramped turret, making the act of reloading the breech with the large shells difficult and awkward.

Given the vehicle's advantages and disadvantages, a good way to play this vehicle is often in a sniping play-style. Staying hidden, keeping distance, and only exposing the vehicle to shoot capitalizes on the strength of the vehicle's gun while minimizing the effects of its weak armour. Additionally, it is effortless to hide this vehicle behind cover in a hull-down position since it has a low profile and good gun depression.

Alternatively, it may also be beneficial to employ a more ambush-based playstyle with this vehicle. But since this requires more close-up engagements, be careful to avoid lengthy brawls, where the Waffenträger's poor armour and mobility will hinder it greatly. Positioning is still critical. Finally, it may be sometimes possible to engage the enemy while orienting the vehicle sideways or backwards. This protects the engine and transmission from enemy fire and prevents the protruding frontal optics ports from interfering with gun traverse and depression.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 88 mm PaK 43 gun power can destroy any vehicle it meets
  • Full rotating turret with the powerful gun
  • Decent -8° gun depression for hull-down positions
  • Low profile construction makes the vehicle easily conceal
  • Suspension and tracks cover a good portion of the lower side hull for protection
  • All AP and APHE shells over-pierce the tank without dealing much damage due to the fragile armour

Cons:

  • Open-top turret crew vulnerable to shrapnel, machine guns, airstrikes, artillery, and such
  • Gun recoil can jump the vehicle dramatically, throwing off the aim and bouncing the vehicle position
  • Fragile overall armour of between 10-20 mm
  • 5 mm roof armour means an aerial attack is deadly
  • 5 mm belly armour makes any HE shots able to penetrate through the bottom
  • Front-mounted engine and transmission means both can be knocked out with a front shot, immobilizing the vehicle
  • Poor acceleration
  • Hatches on the front of the tank can disrupt the aim

History

Development

In as early as 1942, the German Wehrmacht was looking for a way to make large anti-tank guns easier to deploy and transport and fire the gun and fight on the front lines. Four major German companies (Krupp, Rheinmetall, Borsig, and Ardelt) took part in a tender of the Waffenamt (German Army Weapons Agency) in 1943 for the project. Then, in April 1944, the four companies presented their prototypes. With Krupp and Steyr working together on a design, and Rheinmetall and Borsig on their own. Both designs envisaged placing the 8.8 cm PaK 43 L / 71 in a lightly armoured, upwardly open, rotatable tower mounted on a hull of a Raupenschlepper Ost (a tracked artillery mover) to keep costs down and reduce complexity. However, the decision was made for the prototype of the last company, Ardelt, therefore making the Krupp-Steyr design unwanted by the Waffenamt.

Combat usage

Due to the design losing the tender, the tank never saw mass production or combat service. Only one wooden model and one prototype were manufactured on September 2, 1944.

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Germany tank destroyers
Based on Pz.38(t)  Marder III · Marder III H · Jagdpanzer 38(t)
Based on Pz.I  Panzerjäger I
Based on Pz.II  15cm sIG 33 B Sfl
Based on Pz.III  StuG III A · StuG III F · StuG III G · StuH 42 G
Based on Pz.IV  Jagdpanzer IV · Panzer IV/70(V) · Panzer IV/70(A) · Brummbär · Dicker Max · Nashorn · VFW
Based on Pz.V  Jagdpanther · Bfw. Jagdpanther
Based on Pz.VI  Sturer Emil · Ferdinand · Jagdtiger
  JPz 4-5 · Waffenträger · VT1-2
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Rocket/Missile  15 cm Pz.W.42 · RakJPz 2 · RakJPz 2 (HOT)