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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight
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! rowspan="2" | Vehicle || colspan="2" | AB Engine upgraded || colspan="2" | Weight || rowspan="2" | Date
 
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! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 
! In-game !! Wiki !! In-game !! Wiki
 
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| [[M13 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || ||
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| [[M13 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M3 GMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || ||
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| [[M3 GMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M16 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || ||
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| [[M16 MGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M8 Greyhound]] || 159 HP || 210 HP || ||
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| [[M8 Greyhound]] || 159 HP || 210 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M10 GMC]] || 717 HP || 782 HP || ||
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| [[M10 GMC]] || 717 HP || 782 HP || || ||
 
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| [[LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA)]] || 437 HP || 477 HP || ||
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| [[LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA)]] || 437 HP || 477 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M6A1]] || 1272 HP || 1526 HP || ||
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| [[M6A1]] || 1272 HP || 1526 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M15A1 CGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || ||
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| [[M15A1 CGMC]] || 259 HP || 282 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M18 GMC]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || ||
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| [[M18 GMC]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
 
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|-
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| [[M4A3E2]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[M4A3E2]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M18 "Black Cat"]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || ||
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| [[M18 "Black Cat"]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
 
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| [[Cobra King]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[Cobra King]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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|-
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| [[M4A3E2 (76) W]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[M4A3E2 (76) W]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M19]] || 518 HP || 565 HP || ||
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| [[M19]] || 518 HP || 565 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M36 GMC]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[M36 GMC]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M56]] || 350 HP || 382 HP || ||
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| [[M56]] || 350 HP || 382 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T26E1-1]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[T26E1-1]] || 795 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[Super Hellcat]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || ||
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| [[Super Hellcat]] || 804 HP || 878 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T34]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t
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| [[T34]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t ||
 
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| [[T29]] || 1224 HP || 1469 HP || ||
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| [[T29]] || 1224 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T30]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t
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| [[T30]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || 65.8t || 65.1t ||
 
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| [[T32]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || ||
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| [[T32]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T32E1]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || ||
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| [[T32E1]] || 1228 HP || 1469 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M42]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[M42]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T95]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || ||
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| [[T95]] || 874 HP || 954 HP || || ||
 
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| [[T114]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || ||
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| [[T114]] || 280 HP || 305 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M103]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || ||
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| [[M103]] || 1287 HP || 1545 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M163]] || || || 11.0t || 11.2t
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| [[M163]] || || || 11.0t || 11.2t ||
 
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| [[M247]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP || ||
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| [[M247]] || 1310 HP || 1431 HP || || ||
 
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| [[XM-803]] || 2356 HP || 2385 HP || ||
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| [[XM-803]] || 2356 HP || 2385 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || ||
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| [[M1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
 
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| [[IPM1]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || ||
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| [[IPM1]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
 
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| [[M1A1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || ||
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| [[M1A1 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
 
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| [[ADATS]] || || || 23.7t || 25.0t
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| [[ADATS]] || || || 23.7t || 25.0t ||
 
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| [[M1A2 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || ||
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| [[M1A2 Abrams]] || 2533 HP || 2898 HP || || ||
 
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[[XM-1 (Chrysler)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
 
[[XM-1 (Chrysler)]] couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Revision as of 14:17, 9 March 2020

Msg-info.png User talk:DnaGonite/Archive/2019

Mobility template

Hello, I've been using the Mobility Template Template:TankMobility lately but I've noticed a lot of discrepancies between in-game values and the wiki.


Discrepancies as of 08.03.20

US tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight Date
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
M13 MGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M3 GMC 259 HP 282 HP
M16 MGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M8 Greyhound 159 HP 210 HP
M10 GMC 717 HP 782 HP
LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA) 437 HP 477 HP
M6A1 1272 HP 1526 HP
M15A1 CGMC 259 HP 282 HP
M18 GMC 804 HP 878 HP
M4A3E2 795 HP 954 HP
M18 "Black Cat" 804 HP 878 HP
Cobra King 795 HP 954 HP
M4A3E2 (76) W 795 HP 954 HP
M19 518 HP 565 HP
M36 GMC 874 HP 954 HP
M56 350 HP 382 HP
T26E1-1 795 HP 954 HP
Super Hellcat 804 HP 878 HP
T34 1287 HP 1545 HP 65.8t 65.1t
T29 1224 HP 1469 HP
T30 1287 HP 1545 HP 65.8t 65.1t
T32 1228 HP 1469 HP
T32E1 1228 HP 1469 HP
M42 874 HP 954 HP
T95 874 HP 954 HP
T114 280 HP 305 HP
M103 1287 HP 1545 HP
M163 11.0t 11.2t
M247 1310 HP 1431 HP
XM-803 2356 HP 2385 HP
M1 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP
IPM1 2533 HP 2898 HP
M1A1 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP
ADATS 23.7t 25.0t
M1A2 Abrams 2533 HP 2898 HP

XM-1 (Chrysler) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

German tree (finished)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
Pz.III B 334 HP 477 HP
Flakpanzer I 100 HP 109 HP
Panzerjager I 175 HP 191 HP
Flakpanzer 38 262 HP 286 HP
Sd.Kfz.234/3 367 HP 401 HP
15cm sIG 33 B Sfl 271 HP 296 HP
Pz.III J 21.8t 21.3t
StuG III A 525 HP 572 HP
Pz.III J1 21.8t 21.3t
Sd.Kfz. 6/2 201 HP 219 HP
StuH 42 G 525 HP 572 HP
Sd.Kfz.234/4 367 HP 401 HP
Marder III 280 HP 305 HP
Marder III H 262 HP 286 HP
StuG III F 525 HP 572 HP
8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. 402 HP 439 HP 24.3t 25.0t
StuG III G 525 HP 572 HP
15 cm Pz.W.42 119 HP 130 HP
Dicker Max 315 HP 343 HP
Tiger H1 1033 HP 1240 HP
Wirbelwind 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanzer 38(t) 280 HP 305 HP
KV-IB (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
Sturer Emil 542 HP 591 HP
Tiger E 1133 HP 1336 HP
Ostwind 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanzer IV 525 HP 572 HP
KV II 754 (r) (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany) 556 HP 668 HP
Nashorn 525 HP 572 HP 24.3t 23.5t
Panzer IV/70(V) 525 HP 572 HP
Panzer IV/70(A) 525 HP 572 HP
Brummbär 463 HP 506 HP 27.8t 28.2t
VFW 630 HP 687 HP
KV I C 756 (r) (Germany) 954 HP 1145 HP
VK 45.01 (P) 984 HP 1183 HP
Tiger (Germany) 1033 HP 1240 HP
Waffenträger 245 HP 267 HP 16.3t 17.0t
Tiger II (P) 1113 HP 1336 HP
Ostwind II 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdpanther 1224 HP 1336 HP
Bfw. Jagdpanther 1224 HP 1336 HP
Tiger II (H) Sla.16 1191 HP 1431 HP
Tiger II (H) 1113 HP 1336 HP
Ferdinand 926 HP 1011 HP
Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P 841 HP 1011 HP
Flakpanzer 341 1048 HP 1145 HP
JPz 4-5 874 HP 954 HP
Kugelblitz 525 HP 572 HP
Jagdtiger 1224 HP 1336 HP
Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) 1431 HP 1717 HP
E-100 1431 HP 1717 HP
Maus 1905 HP 2290 HP
RakJPz 2 874 HP 954 HP
RakJPz 2 (HOT) 874 HP 954 HP
Gepard 1450 HP 1584 HP
VT1-2  ???? HP 4197 HP
Leopard 2K 2500 HP 2862 HP
Leopard 2A4 2500 HP 2862 HP
Leopard 2A5 2500 HP 2862 HP
FlaRakPz 1 1048 HP 1145 HP

M4 748 (a) (Germany) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Soviet tree (in progress)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
BT-5 487 HP 696 HP
SU-5-1 157 HP 172 HP
GAZ-AAA (4M) 100 HP 109 HP
GAZ-AAA (DShK) 100 HP 109 HP
T-35 795 HP 954 HP
SU-57 259 HP 282 HP
BM-8-24 133 HP 145 HP
T-III (USSR) 21.8t 21.3t
ZiS-30 87 HP 95 HP
GAZ-MM (72-K) 100 HP 109 HP
BM-13N 164 HP 179 HP
KV-1 (L-11) 954 HP 1145 HP
SU-76M 245 HP 267 HP
BTR-152A 192 HP 210 HP
SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps) 245 HP 267 HP
KV-1S 954 HP 1145 HP 41.4t 42.5t
SU-122 874 HP 954 HP
ZiS-12 (94-KM) 122 HP 134 HP 3.0t 7.0t
MK-II "Matilda" (USSR) 302 HP 363 HP
ZUT-37 297 HP 324 HP
SU-85A 245 HP 267 HP
SMK 1351 HP 1622 HP
KV-1 (ZiS-5) 954 HP 1145 HP
ASU-57 96 HP 105 HP
SU-57B 182 HP 198 HP
YaG-10 (29-K) 164 HP 177 HP
KV-2 (1940) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-2 (1939) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-85 954 HP 1145 HP
SU-85 874 HP 954 HP
SU-85M 874 HP 954 HP
ZiS-43 157 HP 172 HP
SU-100Y 1486 HP 162 HP
IS-1 827 HP 992 HP
SU-152 1049 HP 1145 HP
KV-2 (ZiS-6) 954 HP 1145 HP
KV-1E 954 HP 1145 HP
Type 65 (USSR) 874 HP 954 HP
KV-220 1351 HP 1622 HP
ISU-152 909 HP 992 HP
ZSU-37 245 HP 267 HP
KV-122 827 HP 992 HP

T-34 (Prototype) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

T-34-85E couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.

Italian tree (in progress)

Vehicle AB Engine upgraded Weight
In-game Wiki In-game Wiki
Breda 501 248 HP 271 HP
R3 T20 FA-HS 166 HP 181 HP
105/25 M43 324 HP 353 HP
75/34 M43 324 HP 353 HP
75/46 M43 324 HP 353 HP
AUBL/74 8.2t 8.5t
R3 T106 FA 3.4t 3.5t
Centauro 25.0t 27.0t
Centauro ROMOR 28.0t 30.0t
Ariete (P) 53.0t 53.8t

M43 "G.C.Leoncello" couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.


Discrepancies in progress

Is there a way to correct that? --Colok76286 (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello. The R3 T106 FA discrepancy is due to a difference in rounding strategies between the wiki and the game. Any values that are automatically inserted and seem to be off by +- 1 on the last digit are likely just rounding errors, and I'm not sure how much can be done to remedy them. As for the other values, I will see if we can get the database maintainer to check/correct the values. Could you check your values for M4 Tipo IC, as they don't seem to agree with either the game or the wiki. -DnaGonite (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --Colok76286 (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --Colok76286 (talk) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
This is the guy in charge of the numbers User:VolgaIgor--blastedryan (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
There's nothing wrong with continuing updating the list here, however (unless DnaGonite is getting annoyed by the new talk notifications). The list has already been forwarded for investigation.--Inceptor57 (talk) 08:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --Colok76286 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -DnaGonite (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Based on the numbers that were in the wiki already, the fact that many tanks use the same engine (M60 family, M1 family, etc.) and the fact that the difference between HP Stock and Upgraded is a multiplier of around 1.23. But feel free to recheck the end of the list or have it rechecked by someone owning the tanks. I have everything spaded until BR 6.3 included (and also the T30). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Naval weapons charts

Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to 3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm). I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -Vianočka (talk) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -DnaGonite (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Creating a category

I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Colok. Vehicle categories should already be automatically inputted into the page via the spec card template at the top. These categories represent what the vehicle is classified as in the game at the time. Creation of custom categories for these vehicle pages or branching existing ones vehicles that are not classified in those categories in the game are generally discouraged. However, the creation of a template table to categorize such vehicles is not out of the question, similar to how we have manufacturer template tables for plane. This can be arranged to have one created for multi-turreted tanks. If you have complications in making one, we can assist in having one made in the future. --Inceptor57 (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for the answer. I am fine with a simple Wiki page if categories must reflect in-game classification. --Colok76286 (talk) 19:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
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