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Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to [[:3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)|3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)]]. I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -[[User:U6133915|U6133915]] ([[User talk:U6133915|talk]]) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to [[:3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)|3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm)]]. I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -[[User:U6133915|U6133915]] ([[User talk:U6133915|talk]]) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
: I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -[[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | : I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -[[User:U38088265|U38088265]] ([[User talk:U38088265|talk]]) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
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| + | I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --[[User:U44629479|U44629479]] ([[User talk:U44629479|talk]]) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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Mobility template
Hello, I've been using the Mobility Template Template:TankMobility lately but I've noticed a lot of discrepancies between in-game values and the wiki.
Discrepancies
US tree (finished)
| Vehicle | AB Engine upgraded | Weight | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| In-game | Wiki | In-game | Wiki | |
| M13 MGMC | 259 HP | 282 HP | ||
| M3 GMC | 259 HP | 282 HP | ||
| M16 MGMC | 259 HP | 282 HP | ||
| M8 Greyhound | 159 HP | 210 HP | ||
| M10 GMC | 717 HP | 782 HP | ||
| LVT(A)(4) ZIS-2 (USA) | 437 HP | 477 HP | ||
| M6A1 | 1272 HP | 1526 HP | ||
| M15A1 CGMC | 259 HP | 282 HP | ||
| M18 GMC | 804 HP | 878 HP | ||
| M4A3E2 | 795 HP | 954 HP | ||
| M18 "Black Cat" | 804 HP | 878 HP | ||
| Cobra King | 795 HP | 954 HP | ||
| M4A3E2 (76) W | 795 HP | 954 HP | ||
| M19 | 518 HP | 565 HP | ||
| M36 GMC | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| M56 | 350 HP | 382 HP | ||
| T26E1-1 | 795 HP | 954 HP | ||
| Super Hellcat | 804 HP | 878 HP | ||
| T34 | 1287 HP | 1545 HP | 65.8t | 65.1t |
| T29 | 1224 HP | 1469 HP | ||
| T30 | 1287 HP | 1545 HP | 65.8t | 65.1t |
| T32 | 1228 HP | 1469 HP | ||
| T32E1 | 1228 HP | 1469 HP | ||
| M42 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| T95 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| T114 | 280 HP | 305 HP | ||
| M103 | 1287 HP | 1545 HP | ||
| M163 | 11.0t | 11.2t | ||
| M247 | 1310 HP | 1431 HP | ||
| XM-803 | 2356 HP | 2385 HP | ||
| M1 Abrams | 2533 HP | 2898 HP | ||
| IPM1 | 2533 HP | 2898 HP | ||
| M1A1 Abrams | 2533 HP | 2898 HP | ||
| ADATS | 23.7t | 25.0t | ||
| M1A2 Abrams | 2533 HP | 2898 HP | ||
XM-1 (Chrysler) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
German tree (finished)
| Vehicle | AB Engine upgraded | Weight | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| In-game | Wiki | In-game | Wiki | |
| Pz.III B | 334 HP | 477 HP | ||
| Flakpanzer I | 100 HP | 109 HP | ||
| Panzerjager I | 175 HP | 191 HP | ||
| Flakpanzer 38 | 262 HP | 286 HP | ||
| Sd.Kfz.234/3 | 367 HP | 401 HP | ||
| 15cm sIG 33 B Sfl | 271 HP | 296 HP | ||
| Pz.III J | 21.8t | 21.3t | ||
| StuG III A | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Pz.III J1 | 21.8t | 21.3t | ||
| Sd.Kfz. 6/2 | 201 HP | 219 HP | ||
| StuH 42 G | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Sd.Kfz.234/4 | 367 HP | 401 HP | ||
| Marder III | 280 HP | 305 HP | ||
| Marder III H | 262 HP | 286 HP | ||
| StuG III F | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| 8,8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. | 402 HP | 439 HP | 24.3t | 25.0t |
| StuG III G | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| 15 cm Pz.W.42 | 119 HP | 130 HP | ||
| Dicker Max | 315 HP | 343 HP | ||
| Tiger H1 | 1033 HP | 1240 HP | ||
| Wirbelwind | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Jagdpanzer 38(t) | 280 HP | 305 HP | ||
| KV-IB (Germany) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| Sturer Emil | 542 HP | 591 HP | ||
| Tiger E | 1133 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Ostwind | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Jagdpanzer IV | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| KV II 754 (r) (Germany) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| Pz.Kpfw. Churchill (Germany) | 556 HP | 668 HP | ||
| Nashorn | 525 HP | 572 HP | 24.3t | 23.5t |
| Panzer IV/70(V) | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Panzer IV/70(A) | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Brummbär | 463 HP | 506 HP | 27.8t | 28.2t |
| VFW | 630 HP | 687 HP | ||
| KV I C 756 (r) (Germany) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| VK 45.01 (P) | 984 HP | 1183 HP | ||
| Tiger (Germany) | 1033 HP | 1240 HP | ||
| Waffenträger | 245 HP | 267 HP | 16.3t | 17.0t |
| Tiger II (P) | 1113 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Ostwind II | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Jagdpanther | 1224 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Bfw. Jagdpanther | 1224 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Tiger II (H) Sla.16 | 1191 HP | 1431 HP | ||
| Tiger II (H) | 1113 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Ferdinand | 926 HP | 1011 HP | ||
| Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P | 841 HP | 1011 HP | ||
| Flakpanzer 341 | 1048 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| JPz 4-5 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| Kugelblitz | 525 HP | 572 HP | ||
| Jagdtiger | 1224 HP | 1336 HP | ||
| Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) | 1431 HP | 1717 HP | ||
| E-100 | 1431 HP | 1717 HP | ||
| Maus | 1905 HP | 2290 HP | ||
| RakJPz 2 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| RakJPz 2 (HOT) | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| Gepard | 1450 HP | 1584 HP | ||
| VT1-2 | ???? HP | 4197 HP | ||
| Leopard 2K | 2500 HP | 2862 HP | ||
| Leopard 2A4 | 2500 HP | 2862 HP | ||
| Leopard 2A5 | 2500 HP | 2862 HP | ||
| FlaRakPz 1 | 1048 HP | 1145 HP | ||
M4 748 (a) (Germany) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
Soviet tree (in progress)
| Vehicle | AB Engine upgraded | Weight | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| In-game | Wiki | In-game | Wiki | |
| BT-5 | 487 HP | 696 HP | ||
| SU-5-1 | 157 HP | 172 HP | ||
| GAZ-AAA (4M) | 100 HP | 109 HP | ||
| GAZ-AAA (DShK) | 100 HP | 109 HP | ||
| T-35 | 795 HP | 954 HP | ||
| SU-57 | 259 HP | 282 HP | ||
| BM-8-24 | 133 HP | 145 HP | ||
| T-III (USSR) | 21.8t | 21.3t | ||
| ZiS-30 | 87 HP | 95 HP | ||
| GAZ-MM (72-K) | 100 HP | 109 HP | ||
| BM-13N | 164 HP | 179 HP | ||
| KV-1 (L-11) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| SU-76M | 245 HP | 267 HP | ||
| BTR-152A | 192 HP | 210 HP | ||
| SU-76M (5th Gv.Kav.Corps) | 245 HP | 267 HP | ||
| KV-1S | 954 HP | 1145 HP | 41.4t | 42.5t |
| SU-122 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| ZiS-12 (94-KM) | 122 HP | 134 HP | 3.0t | 7.0t |
| MK-II "Matilda" (USSR) | 302 HP | 363 HP | ||
| ZUT-37 | 297 HP | 324 HP | ||
| SU-85A | 245 HP | 267 HP | ||
| SMK | 1351 HP | 1622 HP | ||
| KV-1 (ZiS-5) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| ASU-57 | 96 HP | 105 HP | ||
| SU-57B | 182 HP | 198 HP | ||
| YaG-10 (29-K) | 164 HP | 177 HP | ||
| KV-2 (1940) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| KV-2 (1939) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| KV-85 | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| SU-85 | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| SU-85M | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| ZiS-43 | 157 HP | 172 HP | ||
| SU-100Y | 1486 HP | 162 HP | ||
| IS-1 | 827 HP | 992 HP | ||
| SU-152 | 1049 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| KV-2 (ZiS-6) | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| KV-1E | 954 HP | 1145 HP | ||
| Type 65 (USSR) | 874 HP | 954 HP | ||
| KV-220 | 1351 HP | 1622 HP | ||
T-34 (Prototype) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
T-34 (1st Gv.T.Br.) couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
Italian tree (in progress)
| Vehicle | AB Engine upgraded | Weight | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| In-game | Wiki | In-game | Wiki | |
| Breda 501 | 248 HP | 271 HP | ||
| R3 T20 FA-HS | 166 HP | 181 HP | ||
| 105/25 M43 | 324 HP | 353 HP | ||
| 75/34 M43 | 324 HP | 353 HP | ||
| 75/46 M43 | 324 HP | 353 HP | ||
| AUBL/74 | 8.2t | 8.5t | ||
| R3 T106 FA | 3.4t | 3.5t | ||
| Centauro | 25.0t | 27.0t | ||
| Centauro ROMOR | 28.0t | 30.0t | ||
| Ariete (P) | 53.0t | 53.8t | ||
M43 "G.C.Leoncello" couldn't be checked in-game as it wasn't displayed at the time.
Is there a way to correct that? --Colok76286 (talk) 20:29, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hello. The R3 T106 FA discrepancy is due to a difference in rounding strategies between the wiki and the game. Any values that are automatically inserted and seem to be off by +- 1 on the last digit are likely just rounding errors, and I'm not sure how much can be done to remedy them. As for the other values, I will see if we can get the database maintainer to check/correct the values. Could you check your values for M4 Tipo IC, as they don't seem to agree with either the game or the wiki. -DnaGonite (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --Colok76286 (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --Colok76286 (talk) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- This is the guy in charge of the numbers User:VolgaIgor--blastedryan (talk) 00:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- There's nothing wrong with continuing updating the list here, however (unless DnaGonite is getting annoyed by the new talk notifications). The list has already been forwarded for investigation.--Inceptor57 (talk) 08:31, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --Colok76286 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -DnaGonite (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Based on the numbers that were in the wiki already, the fact that many tanks use the same engine (M60 family, M1 family, etc.) and the fact that the difference between HP Stock and Upgraded is a multiplier of around 1.23. But feel free to recheck the end of the list or have it rechecked by someone owning the tanks. I have everything spaded until BR 6.3 included (and also the T30). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your hard work! But how do you know they are discrepancies if you don't have them spaded? -DnaGonite (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- I updated the whole US tree but I do not have vehicles at BR 6.7 and above upgraded so I still reported the discrepancies I noticed at those tiers but I can't confirm them. --Colok76286 (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- I added the next discrepancies I found to the list. HP values are for Arcade Spaded. --Colok76286 (talk) 13:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- My bad, it was the Breda 501 and not the M4 tipo Ic. --Colok76286 (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Few days back I added Penetration statistics and Shell details to 3 inch Mk.33 (76 mm). I want to ask If that is right way or I should add it directly to correct armament section on vehicle page that is using it? Same like tanks. Thanks -Vianočka (talk) 07:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see any harm in adding to both pages. The weapon pages are designed to be a more detailed overview of the weapon, but it's still useful information to be able to see when looking at a specific vehicle. The only problem I could see is if the ship has large amounts of different secondary/anti-air armaments, in which case the tables may overly bloat the page, but that shouldn't apply to the large majority of vehicles. -DnaGonite (talk) 10:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Creating a category
I'd like to create a category: Multi-turreted tanks. Is it OK? How do I do to create such a category? (I tried adding it to an article, thinking it would de facto create a category page). --Colok76286 (talk) 15:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
