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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} American fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.43]].
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On January 1st, 1945, the Germans launched Operation Bondenplatte as an attempt by the Luftwaffe to destroy Allied airfields within the vicinity of the Low Countries in order to establish air superiority. Jagdgeschwader 4, with 75 Fw 190 A-8s, flew as part of this operation. During the operation, Colonel Walter Wagner's aircraft was damaged and was forced to make an emergency landing at the American-controlled St. Trond airfield, where the plane was captured. The Americans were able to repair the aircraft to running condition and repainted  the aircraft in a red color and with American markings for a test flights.
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Introduced in [[Update 1.43]], this aircraft is an American-captured version of the [[Fw 190 A-8]], sporting its own special red color paint job and American markings to distinguish from other Fw 190s. Unlike the German Fw 190 A-8, this American Fw 190 A-8 does not have provisions to mount ordnance, and as such only has its cannons for attack. Otherwise, the Fw 190 A-8 can be used all the same as a heavily-armed aircraft to gun enemy aircraft down.
  
 
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* 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Fw-190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration, and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior E and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much E to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, Boom & Zoom like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
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The Fw 190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration, and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior energy and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much energy to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, Boom & Zoom like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Very strong 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons
 
* Very strong 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons
 
* Great roll rate
 
* Great roll rate
 
* Great energy retention
 
* Great energy retention
 
* Heavy armament
 
* Heavy armament
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* Wide track landing gear makes landing easier
 
* Plenty of ammo
 
* Plenty of ammo
 
* Well armoured from the front
 
* Well armoured from the front
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency
 
* Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency
 
* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
 
* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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[[File:Fw_190_A-8(WNr681497).jpg|350px|thumb|none|Captured German Fw 190, still in its original paint, repaired and evaluated by the US military. (''Note the removed guns'')]]
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File:Fw_190_A-8(WNr681497).jpg|<small>Captured German Fw 190, still in its original paint, repaired and evaluated by the US military</small>
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Latest revision as of 02:44, 25 March 2024

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
This page is about the premium fighter Fw 190 A-8 (USA). For other versions, see Fw 190 (Family).
▃Fw 190 A-8
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▃Fw 190 A-8
USA flag.png USA
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.3 5.0 5.3
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:3 850 Specs-Card-Eagle.png
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Description

On January 1st, 1945, the Germans launched Operation Bondenplatte as an attempt by the Luftwaffe to destroy Allied airfields within the vicinity of the Low Countries in order to establish air superiority. Jagdgeschwader 4, with 75 Fw 190 A-8s, flew as part of this operation. During the operation, Colonel Walter Wagner's aircraft was damaged and was forced to make an emergency landing at the American-controlled St. Trond airfield, where the plane was captured. The Americans were able to repair the aircraft to running condition and repainted the aircraft in a red color and with American markings for a test flights.

Introduced in Update 1.43, this aircraft is an American-captured version of the Fw 190 A-8, sporting its own special red color paint job and American markings to distinguish from other Fw 190s. Unlike the German Fw 190 A-8, this American Fw 190 A-8 does not have provisions to mount ordnance, and as such only has its cannons for attack. Otherwise, the Fw 190 A-8 can be used all the same as a heavily-armed aircraft to gun enemy aircraft down.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 5 500 m652 km/h
Turn time22 s
Max altitude10 300 m
EngineBMW 801 TU
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight6 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 622 602 10300 24.1 25.0 9.7 9.7 450
Upgraded 687 652 21.5 22.8 20.0 14.1

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
912 310 N/A 700 310 ~13 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 420 < 300 < 550 > 320
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,500 m 1,677 hp 1,971 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,900 m 1,478 hp 1,804 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural912 km/h
Gear310 km/h
  • 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
  • 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
  • 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB1 695 Sl icon.png
RB4 645 Sl icon.png
SB5 387 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts290 000 Sl icon.png
Aces940 Ge icon.png
Research Aces960 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 90 / 220 / 440 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 166 / 166 / 166 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Mods ammo.png
mg131_belt_pack
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mg131_new_gun
Mods ammo.png
mg15120_belt_pack
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mg15120_new_gun

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon
Ammunition780 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Weapon 22 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun
Ammunition800 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main articles: MG 151 (20 mm), MG 131 (13 mm)

The Fw 190 A-8 (USA) is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (250 + 140 rpg each wing = 780 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Usage in battles

The Fw 190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration, and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior energy and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much energy to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, Boom & Zoom like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.

Specific enemies worth noting

The premium Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the Spitfire LF Mk. IX and La-7B-20, both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces Tempests, Fw 190 A-5, Bf 109 G-10 variants, Griffon Spitfires and F4U-1C's. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is really going to give anyone trouble. However, these advantages are quite predictable and easily nullified by an attentive opponent.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Combined Not controllable
2 gears 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very strong 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons
  • Great roll rate
  • Great energy retention
  • Heavy armament
  • Wide track landing gear makes landing easier
  • Plenty of ammo
  • Well armoured from the front

Cons:

  • Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency
  • Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
  • Manoeuvrability at low speeds is bad
  • Bad climb rate for a 190

History

On January 1, 1945, an Fw 190 A-8 (W.Nr. 681497) flown by Corporal Walter Wagner from 4./JG 4 landed at the allied-held field at St Trond, Belgium, after having been hit by flak and being forced to make an emergency landing during Operation Bodenplatte. From here it was transferred to the 404th Fighter Group, USAAF.[1][2] It was later repainted.

Media

Skins
Images

  • Captured German Fw 190, still in its original paint, repaired and evaluated by the US military

See also

Related development

External links

References

  1. ↑ US Army Air Forces. File:Fw 190 A-8.Jpg. Wikimedia Commons. 1 Apr. 2010, Accessed: Website
  2. ↑ Ivanov, Grigory. "Focke-Wulf Fw.190A/S Wurger - USA." Wings Palette. N.p., n.d. Web. 03 Mar. 2019.Website


Focke-Wulf Aircraft Corporation (Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau Aktiengesellschaft)
Fighters  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U12 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8
  Fw 190 C
  Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
  Fw 190 F-8
  Ta 152 C-3* · Ta 152 H-1* · Ta 154 A-1*
Bombers  Fw 189 A-1 · Fw 200 C-1
Export  ▅Fw 190 A-5
Captured  ▃Fw 190 A-8 · ▂Fw 190 D-9
  * In 1944, the Germany Air Ministry changed new fighter aircraft designation to that of the chief designer. Kurt Tank was the chief designer at Focke-Wulf and later aircraft he designed were given the prefix of Ta.

USA fighters
P-26 Peashooter  P-26A-33 · P-26A-34 · P-26A-34 M2 · P-26B-35
P-36 Hawk  P-36A · Rasmussen's P-36A · P-36C · ○P-36C · P-36G
P-39 Airacobra  P-400 · P-39N-0 · P-39Q-5
P-40  P-40C · P-40E-1 · P-40E-1 TD · P-40F-10
P-43 Lancer  P-43A-1
P-47 Thunderbolt  P-47D-22-RE · P-47D-25 · P-47D-28 · P-47M-1-RE · ⋠P-47M-1-RE · P-47N-15
P-51 Mustang  P-51 · P-51A (Thunder League) · P-51C-10 · P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30 · P-51H-5-NA
P-63 Kingcobra  P-63A-5 · P-63A-10 · P-63C-5 · ␠Kingcobra
Prototypes  XP-55
F2A Buffalo  F2A-1 · Thach's F2A-1 · F2A-3
BF2C  BF2C-1
F3F  F3F-2 · Galer's F3F-2
F4F Wildcat  F4F-3 · F4F-4
F4U Corsair  F4U-1A · F4U-1A (USMC) · F4U-1D · F4U-1C · F4U-4 · F4U-4B · F4U-4B VMF-214 · F2G-1
F6F Hellcat  F6F-5 · F6F-5N
F8F Bearcat  F8F-1 · F8F-1B
Other countries  ▃Ki-43-II · ▃Ki-61-Ib · ▃A6M2 · ▃Bf 109 F-4 · ▃Fw 190 A-8 · ▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc

USA premium aircraft
Fighters  Thach's F2A-1 · Galer's F3F-2 · F2G-1 · F4U-4B VMF-214 · P-26A-34 · Rasmussen's P-36A · P-40C · P-43A-1
  P-47M-1-RE · ⋠P-47M-1-RE · P-51A · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · ␠Kingcobra · XP-55
  ▃A6M2 · ▃Ki-43-II · ▃Ki-61-Ib · ▃Bf 109 F-4 · ▃Fw 190 A-8 · ▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc
Twin-engine fighters  XP-38G · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38K · YP-38 · P-61A-11 · XF5F · XP-50 · F7F-3
Jet fighters  P-59A · F-86F-35 · F-89B · F-89D · F-4S Phantom II · F-5C · F-20A
Strike aircraft  A-1H · A2D-1 · AU-1 · XA-38 · AV-8A · AV-8B (NA) · A-6E TRAM · A-10A
Bombers  A-26C-45DT · B-10B · BTD-1 · PBM-3 "Mariner" · PBM-5A "Mariner" · PV-2D

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