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== Description ==
 
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[[File:WeaponImage AS-30 Nord.png|thumb|left|420px|The AS-30 missile (scale is approximate)]]
 
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The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is a French manually-guided air-to-ground missile. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
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The '''AS-30 Nord''' is an air-to-ground missile developed by '''Nord Aviation'''. It is a precision attack weapon intended to be used against high value targets such as bunkers and bridges. The AS-30 is derived from the older [[AS-20]], and they are almost identical and the only key difference is that it the AS-30 is much larger and it even used the AS-20's guidance system, which required the user to track the missile visually and then correct its flying path by a small joystick. These guidance systems, known as MCLOS, were very difficult to use in practice and thus accuracy of these missiles is dependent from user to user.
 
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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The AS-30 Nord is an ATGM capable of obliterating any ground vehicle if hit directly, however most of the time, it isn't required for a precise shot as the splash damage is still adequate enough to destroy or at least heavily cripple a vehicle. While at first sight, the penetration of just 101 mm might seem very low for what the missile is, one should take note of its astonishing 125.9 kg explosive filler. The explosive filler allows the complete obliteration of a vehicle if the roof, sides or the rear are struck by the missile but as mentioned above, it has enough explosive filler to destroy or at least heavily cripple a target if it isn't hit directly.
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The AS-30 Nord is an air-to-ground missile developed by Nord Aviation. It is a precision attack weapon intended to be used against high value targets such as bunkers and bridges. The AS-30 is derived from the older [[AS-20]], they are almost identical and the only key difference is that the AS-30 is much larger. The AS-30 uses a MCLOS guidance system, meaning that the player must fly it manually to the target using special keybinds.
  
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It uses an MCLOS guidance system (the user has to manually guide it towards the target with their keyboard) and so it might be quite a cumbersome experience at first, but once the user learns how to properly control the AS-30, it will be a force to be reckoned with.
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| '''Mass''' || 520 kg
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| '''Guidance''' || Manual (MCLOS)
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| '''Maximum speed''' || 370 m/s
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| '''Firing range''' || 10 km
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| '''Missile guidance time''' || 24 secs
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| '''Explosive mass''' || 99.56 kg TNTeq
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| '''Armour penetration''' || 79 mm
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The {{PAGENAME}} is an AGM capable of obliterating any ground vehicle if hit directly, however most of the time, a precise shot isn't required as the splash damage is still adequate enough to destroy or at least heavily cripple a vehicle. While at first sight, the penetration of just 79 mm might seem very low for what the missile is, one should take note of its astonishing 115.3 kg explosive filler. The explosive filler allows the complete obliteration of a vehicle if the roof, sides or the rear are struck by the missile but as mentioned above, it has enough explosive filler to destroy or at least heavily cripple a target if it isn't hit directly.
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It uses an MCLOS guidance system (the user has to manually guide it towards the target with their keyboard) and so it might be quite a cumbersome experience at first, but once the user learns how to properly control the {{PAGENAME}}, it will be a force to be reckoned with.
  
 
=== Effective damage ===
 
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Thanks to is 125.9 kg explosive filler, the splash damage it produces is more than enough to knock out any vehicle in a single shot. The penetration itself is not all that great, but it is justified by the explosive filler so in this case, the penetration force is almost irrelevant.  
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Thanks to its 115.3 kg explosive filler, the splash damage it produces is more than enough to knock out any vehicle in a single shot. The penetration itself is not all that great at 79 mm in all distances and angle of attacks, but it is justified by the explosive filler so in this case, the penetration force is almost irrelevant.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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Because you can carry only one AS-30 Nord, it is highly recommended to use it against high priority targets. If you see that your team is having troubles with a specific hostile vehicle, you can try to track it down and destroy it with the ATGM and then continue to use up your [[SNEB type 23]] rockets as the only loadouts that have the AS-30 available are also tied to SNEB rockets.
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Because you can carry only a limited number of AS-30 Nord's (Two on the Vautour IIN, one on every other aircraft), it is highly recommended to use it against high priority targets. If you see that your team is having troubles with a specific hostile vehicle, you can try to track it down and destroy it with the ATGM and then continue to use up your other suspended armaments, like [[SNEB type 23]] rockets, as most of the loadouts that have the AS-30 available are also tied to SNEB rockets.
  
 
It is best to use the ATGM first and as soon as possible, as it is heavy and will impact your climb rate and max speed quite a lot. Even though the maximum range of the AS-30 is 8 km, it is highly not recommended to launch the missile from further than 2 km as it will become harder to control and you'll be giving the enemy a chance to take cover.
 
It is best to use the ATGM first and as soon as possible, as it is heavy and will impact your climb rate and max speed quite a lot. Even though the maximum range of the AS-30 is 8 km, it is highly not recommended to launch the missile from further than 2 km as it will become harder to control and you'll be giving the enemy a chance to take cover.
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Astonishing explosive filler of 125.9 kg
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* Astonishing explosive warhead
 
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* Much slower compared to the AS-20
 
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* MCLOS can be difficult to grasp at longer ranges
 
* MCLOS can be difficult to grasp at longer ranges
  
 
== History ==
 
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The first AS-30 development started in the 1958 and it was derived from the AS-20 and was almost exactly identical to it. The key differences were that the AS-30 had improved range and a much larger warhead. The AS-30 has four large steeply swept back fins like the ones that exist on the AS-20, cruciform in cross-section around the midsection of its body. But because of the much larger size of the missile compared to the AS-20, it had to have extra four smaller fins towards the rear of the missile to add more stability during flight.
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The first AS-30 development started in the 1958 and it was derived from the AS-20 and was almost exactly identical to it. The key differences were that the AS-30 had improved range and a much larger warhead. The AS-30 has four large steeply swept back fins like the ones that exist on the AS-20, cruciform in cross-section around the midsection of its body. But because of the much larger size of the missile compared to the AS-20, it had to have extra four smaller fins towards the rear of the missile to add more stability during flight.
  
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Because of the complaints about MCLOS and how it is difficult to aim the missile this way, in 1974 a new development for a new missile has begun, the AS-30L. The AS-30L is almost identical to the AS-30 as the only key difference is that the 30L variant uses laser homing guidance as opposed to MCLOS and in terms of appearance, the nose of the 30L variant is much more blunt instead of being sharp like the 30 variant. The AS-30L was designed for longer attacks which required much more accuracy, something the AS-30 could not achieve.
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Because of the complaints about MCLOS and how it is difficult to aim the missile this way, in 1974 a new development for a new missile has begun, the AS-30L. The AS-30L is almost identical to the AS-30 as the only key difference is that the 30L variant uses laser homing guidance as opposed to MCLOS and in terms of appearance, the nose of the 30L variant is much more blunt instead of being sharp like the 30 variant. The AS-30L was designed for longer attacks which required much more accuracy, something the AS-30 could not achieve.
  
 
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* [[AGM-12B Bullpup]] - A similar missile to that of the AS-30
  
 
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Latest revision as of 21:12, 14 October 2023

This page is about the French air-to-ground missile AS-30 Nord. For the other version, see AS-30L Nord.

Description

The AS-30 missile (scale is approximate)


The AS-30 Nord is a French manually-guided air-to-ground missile. It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

The AS-30 Nord is an air-to-ground missile developed by Nord Aviation. It is a precision attack weapon intended to be used against high value targets such as bunkers and bridges. The AS-30 is derived from the older AS-20, they are almost identical and the only key difference is that the AS-30 is much larger. The AS-30 uses a MCLOS guidance system, meaning that the player must fly it manually to the target using special keybinds.

Missile characteristics
Mass 520 kg
Guidance Manual (MCLOS)
Maximum speed 370 m/s
Firing range 10 km
Missile guidance time 24 secs
Explosive mass 99.56 kg TNTeq
Armour penetration 79 mm

The AS-30 Nord is an AGM capable of obliterating any ground vehicle if hit directly, however most of the time, a precise shot isn't required as the splash damage is still adequate enough to destroy or at least heavily cripple a vehicle. While at first sight, the penetration of just 79 mm might seem very low for what the missile is, one should take note of its astonishing 115.3 kg explosive filler. The explosive filler allows the complete obliteration of a vehicle if the roof, sides or the rear are struck by the missile but as mentioned above, it has enough explosive filler to destroy or at least heavily cripple a target if it isn't hit directly.

It uses an MCLOS guidance system (the user has to manually guide it towards the target with their keyboard) and so it might be quite a cumbersome experience at first, but once the user learns how to properly control the AS-30 Nord, it will be a force to be reckoned with.

Effective damage

Thanks to its 115.3 kg explosive filler, the splash damage it produces is more than enough to knock out any vehicle in a single shot. The penetration itself is not all that great at 79 mm in all distances and angle of attacks, but it is justified by the explosive filler so in this case, the penetration force is almost irrelevant.

Comparison with analogues

Comparable missiles to the AS-30 Nord
Name Year of Production Velocity (m/s) Maximum Penetration (mm)
AS-20 Nord 1956 563 83
AGM-12B Bullpup 1959 245 93
HOT 1978 240 700

Usage in battles

Because you can carry only a limited number of AS-30 Nord's (Two on the Vautour IIN, one on every other aircraft), it is highly recommended to use it against high priority targets. If you see that your team is having troubles with a specific hostile vehicle, you can try to track it down and destroy it with the ATGM and then continue to use up your other suspended armaments, like SNEB type 23 rockets, as most of the loadouts that have the AS-30 available are also tied to SNEB rockets.

It is best to use the ATGM first and as soon as possible, as it is heavy and will impact your climb rate and max speed quite a lot. Even though the maximum range of the AS-30 is 8 km, it is highly not recommended to launch the missile from further than 2 km as it will become harder to control and you'll be giving the enemy a chance to take cover.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Astonishing explosive warhead
  • 8 km firing range

Cons:

  • Much slower compared to the AS-20
  • Few can be carried requiring frequent rearming on airfields
  • MCLOS can be difficult to grasp at longer ranges

History

The first AS-30 development started in the 1958 and it was derived from the AS-20 and was almost exactly identical to it. The key differences were that the AS-30 had improved range and a much larger warhead. The AS-30 has four large steeply swept back fins like the ones that exist on the AS-20, cruciform in cross-section around the midsection of its body. But because of the much larger size of the missile compared to the AS-20, it had to have extra four smaller fins towards the rear of the missile to add more stability during flight.

Because of the complaints about MCLOS and how it is difficult to aim the missile this way, in 1974 a new development for a new missile has begun, the AS-30L. The AS-30L is almost identical to the AS-30 as the only key difference is that the 30L variant uses laser homing guidance as opposed to MCLOS and in terms of appearance, the nose of the 30L variant is much more blunt instead of being sharp like the 30 variant. The AS-30L was designed for longer attacks which required much more accuracy, something the AS-30 could not achieve.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Related development
Similar-performing missiles

External links


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Bullpup  AGM-12B Bullpup · AGM-12C Bullpup
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ATGM  LOSAT/MGM-166A
TOW  BGM-71 · BGM-71A · BGM-71B · BGM-71C
SAM  FIM-92 Stinger · MIM-72 · MIM146
Naval SAM  RIM-24A
Germany 
AAM  AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder · AIM-9L/I Sidewinder · Flz Lwf 63 · Flz Lwf 63/80
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USSR 
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AGM  9K127 Vikhr · 9M17M Falanga · 9M120 Ataka · 9M120-1 Ataka
  Kh-23M · Kh-25 · Kh-25ML · Kh-29L · Kh-29T · Kh-29TE · Kh-29TD · Kh-66 · S-25L · S-25LD
ATGM  3M7 · 9M14 · 9M113 Konkurs · 9M114 Shturm · 9M123 Khrizantema · 9M133 · 9M133FM3 · 9M133M-2
SAM  95Ya6 · 9M311 · 9M311-1M · 9M331 · 9M37M
Naval SAM  Volna-M
Britain 
AAM  Fireflash · Firestreak · Red Top · Skyflash · Skyflash SuperTEMP · SRAAM · R-Darter
AGM  AGM-65E · AS.12 · ZT-6 Mokopa
AShM  AJ.168
ATGM  BAe Swingfire · MILAN · MILAN 2 · ZT3
SAM  Starstreak
Japan 
AAM  AAM-3 · AAM-4
AGM  Ki-148 I-Go Model 1B
ATGM  Type 64 MAT · Type 79 Jyu-MAT
SAM  Type 81 SAM-1C · Type 91
China 
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AGM  AKD-9 · AKD-10 · Fire Snake 90A · HJ-8A · HJ-8C · HJ-8E · HJ-8H
ATGM  302 · HJ-73 · HJ-73E · HJ-9 · QN201DD · QN502CDD
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AGM  9M14-2 Malyutka-2 · AS-20 Nord · AS-30 Nord · AS-30L Nord · HOT-1 · HOT-2 TOW · HOT-3 · Spike ER
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SAM  Rbs 70
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