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This page is about the French jet fighter Mirage 5F. For other versions, see Mirage 5 (Family).
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Mirage 5F
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Description

The Mirage III was a true workhorse of the Israeli Air Force with considerably successful combat records, however, it still left much to be desired by the IAF. As a result, the IAF reached out to Dassault to request a new "refined" version of the Mirage III specifically for Middle Eastern combat, with the result of this program called the "Mirage 5". The Israelis suggested that radar and most of the related sensors and avionics from the standard Mirage IIIE should be removed to reduce cost, weight, and maintenance; and replacing them with more fuel storage for prolonged attack missions, since the radar and related sensors were deemed "unnecessary" in the clear and sunny skies of the Middle East. In September 1966, the Israelis placed an order for 50 of the new Mirage 5, but due to French President De Gaulle's arms embargo against Israel shortly after in 1967, none of the Mirage 5s were delivered to Israel. In late 1969, the Israelis, who had pilots in France testing the aircraft, requested that the aircraft be transferred to Corsica, in theory to allow them to continue flight training in warm conditions during the French winter. The French government rejected the request when the Israelis also tried to obtain long-range fuel tanks, which seemed highly suspicious to the French officials as Corsica was not far enough from the French mainland to warrant long-range fuel tanks. The Israelis finally gave up trying to acquire the aircraft after that and accepted a refund, but unbeknownst to the French, the Israelis had only accepted the refund because their espionage assets had successfully stolen the Mirage 5's blueprints from Dassault, resulting in the indigenously built Nesher copy instead.

Introduced in Update "Winged Lions", the Mirage 5F is completely identical to the Nesher, minus its air-to-air missile loadout, with the French version equipping AIM-9Bs and the indigenous R.550 Magic 1 missile instead of the Israeli Shafrir 2 missile. The aircraft lacks radar and can only equip two on-par close range air-to-air missiles. The Mirage 5 is best equipped for frontline bomber roles, however it still struggles in this role due to the lack of countermeasures. The Mirage is best played defensively at all times, maintaining a distance from enemies (especially those with all aspect missiles) to bomb bases and pounce on unsuspecting targets using its great speed and short-term dogfight performance.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 12 000 m2 160 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineSNECMA Atar 9C
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight11 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 12,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,090 2,053 16000 29.9 30.6 109.7 99.7 750
Upgraded 2,233 2,160 26.3 28.0 172.5 140.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,460 426 N/A N/A N/A ~10 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 920 < 750 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 9C 1 7,250 kg 300 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 34m fuel
1,450 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,934 kg 8,577 kg 9,241 kg 9,531 kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 34m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,210 kgf 6,110 kgf 0.77 0.71 0.66 0.64 _.__
Optimal 5,389 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
8,594 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.08 1.00 0.93 0.90 _.__

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear426 km/h

The Mirage 5F has no armour and can be critically damaged with just one short burst of enemy fire. Even if the Mirage survives, it will be highly damaged and some major components like the elevator or aileron controls will likely be destroyed. The Mirage has self-sealing fuel tanks located in the rear, front part of the wings, and the forward fuselage.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 089 → 4 154 Sl icon.png
RB11 211 → 15 078 Sl icon.png
SB10 362 → 13 936 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications224 000 Rp icon.png
348 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training200 000 Sl icon.png
Experts710 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Compressor
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-32
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 25C
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
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aden_belt_pack
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Type 21B
Research:
13 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
410 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Matra JL-100R
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Matra JL-100 36
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
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aden_new_gun
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
Nord AS.30
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
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Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 552A (30 mm)

The Mirage 5F is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm DEFA 552A cannons, belly-mounted (140 rpg = 280 total)

Suspended armament

The Mirage 5F can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Hardpoints Mirage 5F.png
250 lb SAMP Mk 81 bombs 1 1
250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs 4 1 2 1 4
250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs 1 2 1
400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs 2 1 2 1 2
400 kg SAMP Type 21 200 bombs 1 2 1
FZ49 rockets 7 7
SNEB type 23 rockets 18, 36 18, 36
AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles 1 1
AS-30 Nord missiles 1
Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles 1 1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 1,500 kg
Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 1 x AS-30 Nord missile
  • 2 x 250 lb SAMP Mk 81 bombs (500 lb total)
  • 12 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 bombs (3,000 kg total)
  • 4 x 250 kg SAMP Type 25 200 bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 8 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 bombs (3,200 kg total)
  • 4 x 400 kg SAMP Type 21 200 bombs (1,600 kg total)
  • 36 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 72 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 14 x FZ49 rockets

Usage in battles

Comparable to the Mirage IIIC in performance, the 5F lacks some of the electronics and missiles that make contemporary jets very competitive in aggressive fights.

Because of that, and its lack of countermeasures, the Mirage 5F's most important asset is retaining its speed. Since is a very fast aircraft, it is better used in a support role or doing passes around the map at high speeds, launching the missiles at priority targets that might be a threat to the Mirage or to save an ally from death. This good use of its ammunition is extremely important since the Mirage can only carry a maximum of 2 AAMs, one on each wing. Be careful, though, as the 2 Magic 1's are very short in range, take a second to arm, and suffer from a lot of drag. Its guns, while great and easy to aim, have a low muzzle velocity and work better at low speeds when it is easier to point the nose of the aircraft in the desired direction. But since they are 30 mm cannons, they will destroy any aircraft with a small burst, making them very reliable.

Going for ground bases is a good option in the Mirage 5F. The Mirage 5F is capable of carrying enough bombs to destroy a full base and still carry 2 missiles for air-to-air combat. When doing this, flying at medium altitudes and then diving to the bases is very important to stay alive, because when flying to close to the ground the enemy SPAA around the map can easily destroy or severely damage your aircraft. At the moment of approaching the base, it is important to go in a dive or lower your altitude closer to the ground because the Mirage has no ballistic computer at all. Once the bombs are dropped, the Mirage may be capable of playing aggressive in the middle of the match, since at that point most fights would have already started and enemies would be distracted. Thus climbing to high altitudes or playing too cautiously may result in a defeat, since your allies would need you helping in the fight.

The 5F's energy retention is decent at best, so be careful when dogfighting and choose your opponents wisely.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good missiles; IR-guided Magics are very agile and have high G limits
  • Hard hitting guns
  • Decent loadout options
  • Nimble attacker

Cons:

  • Only two missiles
  • Doesn't have access to laser-guided ordnance
  • No flares or chaff of any kind
  • Frequent uptiers against more capable jets

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Dassault Aviation
WW2
Fighters  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Bombers  M.B.162 · M.B.174A-3 · M.B.175T
Jet Aircraft 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystère  M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Super Mystere B2
Étendard  Etendard IVM
Super Étendard  Super Etendard
Mirage 
Mirage III  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan
Mirage V  Mirage 5F
Mirage F1  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Mirage 2000  Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000D-R1
Mirage 4000  Mirage 4000
Export 
M.D 450  M.D.450B Ouragan
Mystere  Mystere IVA
Super Mystère  Sambad · Sa'ar**
Mirage  Shahak
  *The company was named "Société des Avions Marcel Bloch" before being renamed in 1947
  **Israeli Super Mystère refitted with new avionics and an American engine

France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)