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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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''The mg 151/20 was made by converting the [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to fire the larger 20mm round to get a lower velocity explosive ammo''
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
 
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* Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
 
* Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
 
* Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
 
* Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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[[M2HB (12.7 mm)]]
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[[KPVT (14.5 mm)]]
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* ''Minengeschoß'' shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
 
* ''Minengeschoß'' shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
 
* Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
 
* Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
 
* Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
 
* Ineffective against armored ground targets, even with APHE shells
 
* Ineffective against armored ground targets, even with APHE shells
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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Converted from a 15mm firing [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high velocity shell.
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Intrestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns were lend leased to japan using the italian submarine ''Comandante Cappellini arming 388 japanese [[Ki-61-I hei]] figther planes.''
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
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* ''The mg 151/20 was made by converting the [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to fire the larger 20mm round''  
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
 
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== External links ==
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''
 
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''

Revision as of 14:19, 14 August 2019

Description

The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20mm round to get a lower velocity explosive ammo

  • Note: Gunpods containing MG 151/20 (20 mm) have reduced accuracy compared to those mounted conventionally

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters 
Bf 109 F  Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop · ▃Bf 109 F-4
Bf 109 G  Bf 109 G-2/trop · Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-6 · Bf 109 G-10 · Bf 109 G-14 · ▄Bf 109 G-14/AS
Bf 109 K  Bf 109 K-4 (Suspended)
Fw 190 A  Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5 · ▅Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-8 · NC.900 · ▃Fw 190 A-8
Fw 190 C/D/F  Fw 190 C · Fw 190 D-9 · ▂Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13 · Fw 190 F-8
G.55/56  G.55 Centauro serie 1 · G.55 sottoserie 0 · G.55S · G.56
C.202/205  C.202EC · C.205N2 · C.205 serie 3
Ta 152  Ta 152 C-3 · Ta 152 H-1
Other  IAR-81C · Ki-61-I hei Hien · Re.2001 CN · S.O.8000 Narval
Twin-engine fighters 
Bf 110  Bf 110 F-2 (Suspended) · Bf 110 G-2 (Suspended)
Do 17  Do 17 Z-7 · Do 217 N-1 · Do 217 N-2
Do 335  Do 335 A-0 (Suspended) · Do 335 B-2
He 219  He 219 A-7
Me 410 A  Me 410 A-1 · Me 410 A-1/U2 · Me 410 A-1/U4
Me 410 B  Me 410 B-1 · Me 410 B-1/U2 · Me 410 B-2/U4 · Me 410 B-6/R3
Ju 388  Ju 388 J
Ta 154  Ta 154 A-1
Jet fighters  He 162 A-2 · Me 163 B-0
Attackers  Hs 129 B-2 · Hs 129 B-2 (Romanian Air Force) · ▄Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · SM.91 · SM.92
Bombers  BV 238 (Defensive) · Do 217 E-2 · Do 217 E-4 · He 177 A-5 (Defensive) · Ju 87 D-5 · Ju 288 C (Defensive) · M.B.175T · Me 264 (Defensive)
Jet bombers  Ar 234 C-3
Heavy tanks  AMX-50 Surblindé
Tank destroyers  Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950
Torpedo boats  Leichte-Schnellboot LS 4 Esau

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

  • Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
  • Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
  • Air Targets: AP-I/HEI/HEI/HEI/HEI/IT
  • Armored Targets: APHE/APHE/APHE/IT
  • Tracers: FI-T/FI-T/FI-T/IT/IT
  • Stealth: HEI/HEI/HEI/APHE/AP-I

Comparison with analogues

M2HB (12.7 mm)

KPVT (14.5 mm)

Usage in battles

This weapon is very dangerous to air targets due to the minengeschoß shell, which makes the MG 151/20 arguably the best 20 mm cannon against air targets. Unless other ammunition is needed for a specific reason, always choose the ammo belt with most minengeschoß available.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Minengeschoß shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
  • Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
  • Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons
  • Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Mk. II Hispano variants

Cons:

  • Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
  • Ineffective against armored ground targets, even with APHE shells
  • Tracer and HEI (minengeschoß) have slightly different trajectories which reiterate knowing your ammunition

History

Converted from a 15mm firing MG 151/15 (15 mm) to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high velocity shell.

Intrestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns were lend leased to japan using the italian submarine Comandante Cappellini arming 388 japanese Ki-61-I hei figther planes.

Media

An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20mm round
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the weapon;
  • other literature.


USA aircraft cannons
20 mm  AN/M2 · AN/M3 · FMC T-160 · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 · M24A1 · M39A1 · M195 · M197 · T31
30 mm  XM140
37 mm  M4 · M10
40 mm  M129
75 mm  T13E1 · M10
  Foreign:
20 mm  MG 151/20 (Germany) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Type 99 Model 1 (Japan) · Hispano 404 (France)

Germany aircraft cannons
15 mm  MG 151/15
20 mm  MG FF · MG FF/M · MG C/30L · MG 151/20
30 mm  Maschinenkanone 103 · Maschinenkanone 108
37 mm  Bordkanone 3,7
50 mm  Bordkanone 5 · Maschinenkanone 214A
75 mm  Bordkanone 7,5
  Foreign:
20 mm  ShVAK (USSR) · Hispano Mk.V (Britain)
23 mm  VYa-23 (USSR) · NR-23 (USSR)
30 mm  GSh-30-2K (USSR) · NR-30 (USSR)
37 mm  N-37D (USSR)

USSR aircraft cannons
20 mm  ShVAK · B-20E · B-20M · B-20S
23 mm  VYa-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · NR-23 · PTB-23 · GSh-23L · GSh-23-2
30 mm  NR-30 · GSh-30-2K
37 mm  NS-37 · N-37 · N-37D
45 mm  NS-45
  Foreign:
20 mm  MG 151/20 (Germany)
37 mm  M4 (USA) · M10 (USA)

Japan aircraft cannons
  Army:
20 mm  Ho-1 · Ho-3 · Ho-5
30 mm  Ho-155
37 mm  Type 94 · Ho-203 · Ho-204
40 mm  Ho-301
57 mm  Ho-401
75 mm  Type 88
  Navy:
20 mm  Type 99 Model 1 · Type 99 Model 2
30 mm  Type 5
  Foreign:
20 mm  MG FF (Germany) · MG FF/M (Germany) · MG 151/20 (Germany)

Italy aircraft cannons
20 mm  MG 151/20 (Germany) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain)
30 mm  Maschinenkanone 103 (Germany) · DEFA 552 (France)
37 mm  Bordkanone 3,7 (Germany)
102 mm  Cannon 102/35 mod 14

France aircraft cannons
20 mm  GLAT M.621 · Hispano 404 · Hispano HS.9 · M50
30 mm  DEFA 541 · DEFA 551 · DEFA 552
  Foreign:
20 mm  AN/M2 (USA) · AN/M3 (USA) · M24A1 (USA) · MG 151/20 (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR)
37 mm  M10 (USA) · NS-37 (USSR)

France tank cannons
20 mm  M693
25 mm  SA34 L/72
37 mm  SA18 L/21 · SA38 L/33
47 mm  SA34 L/30 · SA35 L/32
75 mm  APX · SA35 L/17 · SA44 · SA49 · SA50
90 mm  SA45 · CN90 F3
100 mm  SA47 L/58 ·
105 mm  CN-105-F1 · Modele F2
120 mm  SA46 · GIAT CN120-25 G1
155 mm  L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzer
  Foreign:
15 mm  MG 151/15 (Germany)
20 mm  MG 151/20 (Germany)
75 mm  M3 (USA)
76 mm  M7 (USA)

Germany naval cannons
15 mm  MG 151
20 mm  MG 151/20 · MG C/30 · MG C/38 · Flakzwilling MG C/38 · C/38 · Vierlingsflak C/38
30 mm  AK-230 · MK103/38
37 mm  FlaK-Lafette C/36 · S.K.C/30
40 mm  Bofors Flak 28 · MEL58
76 mm  Automatic gun
88 mm  Flak.36 · 88mm/76 SK C/32 · S.K.C/35
105 mm  SK C/32
120 mm  L45
127 mm  SKC/34
150 mm  15cm/48 KC/36 · 15cm/60 SK C/25