Lorraine 155 Mle.50

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Lorraine 155 Mle.50
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Lorraine 155 Mle.50
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Description

The Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950 (shortened as Lorraine 155 Mle.50) is a premium gift rank III French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as a reward during the 2018 WW2 Chronicles.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull16 / 16 / 10
Turret16 / 16 / 10
Crew6 people
Visibility133 %

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-calibre rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The machine-gunner (operating the 20 mm gun) is completely standing in the open. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
  • Wheel (tires)
  • Structural steel (gun mount, gun breech, mudguards)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 16 mm (70°) Upper glacis - Top
16 mm (60°) Upper glacis - Bottom
16 mm (cylindrical) Transmission housing
16 mm (73°) Lower glacis - Centre
20 mm (31°) Lower glacis - Sides
16 mm 10 mm Upper plate
10 mm (42°) Lower glacis
16 mm (20°) Front glacis
10 mm Centre & Rear
10+10 mm Radiator vent covers
Superstructure 16 mm (21°) Front glacis
10 mm (cylindrical) Gun shield
16 mm (30°)
16 mm (21-48°) Left ammo rack bulge
10 mm Sides 10 mm
Cupola N/A 10 mm (cylindrical) N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  • Gun breech is 150 mm thick, while the barrel itself is 25 mm.
  • Gun carriage around the gun is 20 mm thick, while the gun mount/traverse device is 40 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB60 / 16 km/h
RB and SB55 / 15 km/h
Number of gears6 forward
1 back
Weight30.0 t
Engine power
AB1 145 hp
RB and SB600 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB38.2 hp/t
RB and SB20.0 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 60 16 30 852 1,145 28.4 38.17
Realistic 55 15 531 600 17.7 20

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB835 Sl icon.png
RB1 033 Sl icon.png
SB1 309 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts165 000 Sl icon.png
Aces470 Ge icon.png
Research Aces710 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 90 / 130 / 170 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 148 / 148 / 148 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement fr.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank ammo.png
155mm_M110_Smoke_ammo_pack
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition30 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
26.0 → 20.0 s
Vertical guidance-5° / 67°
Horizontal guidance-20° / 20°
155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 30 -5°/+67° ±20° N/A 5.3 7.3 8.9 9.8 10.5 26.00 23.00 21.20 20.00
Realistic 3.6 4.2 5.1 5.6 6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M107 HE 61 61 61 61 61 61
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M107 HE 563 43.1 0.3 0.1 9.14 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy
time (s)
Screen hold
time (s)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
M110 563 40.8 21 5 30 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
30 29 (+1) 27 (+3) 23 (+7) 18 (+12) 15 (+15) (+21) (+24) (+29) Yes
Ammo racks of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Notes:

  • Projectiles and propellant charges are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • The visual discrepancy concerns the total number of shells as well as the number of shells per rack:
    • 28 shells are modeled but you can pack 30 shells.
    • Rack 8 is modeled as 3 shells but contains 5 shells.
  • Recommended loadout: 9 (+21) shells. It keeps most ammunition in the floor and out of sponsons.

Machine guns

Ammunition500 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
13.0 → 10.0 s
Fire rate701 shots/min
Vertical guidance-8° / 45°
Main article: MG 151 (20 mm)
20 mm MG 151
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Roof cupola 500 (250) 701 -8°/+45° ±180°

The roof-mounted MG 151 autocannon is very good at knocking out tracks, punching through lightly armoured vehicles and shooting down low-flying aircraft. Use it sparsely because of its low ammo count. When losing a crew member, the machine gunner is used to replace other crew members, meaning that you can't use the 20 mm cannon anymore.

Usage in battles

The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Lorraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armour. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armour is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:

  • Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armour on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
  • Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to penetrate the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful 155 mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
  • Pintle-mounted 20 mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
  • Decent mobility
  • Good reverse speed

Cons:

  • Thin armour with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
  • Despite thin armour, it's thick enough to trigger most fuses in APHE shells
  • Large profile
  • Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
  • If the machine-gunner is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20 mm cannon
  • No AP shells, only HE shells
  • Bad gun depression of 5°

History

Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.

Media

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See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Lorraine
Tanks 
Medium tanks  Lorraine 40t
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 37L · CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM  MEPHISTO
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA  ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
Heavy tanks  B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50