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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}} | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}} | ||
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+ | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 110}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110f-2}} (Suspended){{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110g-2}} (Suspended) | ||
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+ | {{Navigation-Line|He 219}}{{Specs-Link|he_219a_7}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Me 410 A}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1_u2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1_u4}} | ||
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+ | {{Navigation-Line|Ju 388}}{{Specs-Link|ju-388j}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Ta 154}}{{Specs-Link|ta_154a_1}} | ||
{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Jet fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|he-162a-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-163b-0}} | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Jet fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|he-162a-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-163b-0}} | ||
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
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=== Available ammunition === | === Available ammunition === | ||
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− | + | * Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI | |
+ | * Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I | ||
+ | * Air Targets: AP-I/HEI/HEI/HEI/HEI/IT | ||
+ | * Armored Targets: APHE/APHE/APHE/IT | ||
+ | * Tracers: FI-T/FI-T/FI-T/IT/IT | ||
+ | * Stealth: HEI/HEI/HEI/APHE/AP-I | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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− | + | This weapon is very dangerous to air targets due to the ''minengeschoß'' shell, which makes the MG 151/20 arguably the best 20 mm cannon against air targets. Unless other ammunition is needed for a specific reason, always choose the ammo belt with most ''minengeschoß'' available. | |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * Minengeschoß shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft | + | * ''Minengeschoß'' shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft |
* Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons | * Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons | ||
* Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons | * Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons | ||
− | * Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Hispano variants | + | * Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Mk. II Hispano variants |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns | * Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns | ||
− | * Ineffective against | + | * Ineffective against armored ground targets, even with APHE shells |
− | * Tracer and HEI ( | + | * Tracer and HEI (''minengeschoß'') have slightly different trajectories which reiterate knowing your ammunition |
== History == | == History == | ||
− | + | Converted from a 15mm firing [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high velocity shell. | |
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+ | Intrestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns were lend leased to japan using the italian submarine ''Comandante Cappellini arming 388 japanese [[Ki-61-I hei]] figther planes.'' | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
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− | * | + | * ''The mg 151/20 was made by converting the [[MG 151/15 (15 mm)]] to fire the larger 20mm round'' |
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
+ | * ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;'' | ||
* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
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{{Italy aircraft cannons}} | {{Italy aircraft cannons}} | ||
{{France aircraft cannons}} | {{France aircraft cannons}} | ||
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{{France tank cannons}} | {{France tank cannons}} | ||
{{Germany naval cannons}} | {{Germany naval cannons}} |
Revision as of 14:19, 14 August 2019
Contents
Description
The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20mm round to get a lower velocity explosive ammo
- Note: Gunpods containing MG 151 (20 mm) have reduced accuracy compared to those mounted conventionally
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
- Default: IT/IT/APHE/HEI
- Universal: IT/HEI/HEI/AP-I
- Air Targets: AP-I/HEI/HEI/HEI/HEI/IT
- Armored Targets: APHE/APHE/APHE/IT
- Tracers: FI-T/FI-T/FI-T/IT/IT
- Stealth: HEI/HEI/HEI/APHE/AP-I
Comparison with analogues
Usage in battles
This weapon is very dangerous to air targets due to the minengeschoß shell, which makes the MG 151/20 arguably the best 20 mm cannon against air targets. Unless other ammunition is needed for a specific reason, always choose the ammo belt with most minengeschoß available.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Minengeschoß shell (an improved HEI shell) provides a lot of hitting power against aircraft
- Larger ammo count than the other German 20 mm cannons
- Higher muzzle velocity than the other German 20 mm cannons
- Faster firing and less prone to jamming than the Allied Mk. II Hispano variants
Cons:
- Still lower muzzle velocity compared to most machine guns
- Ineffective against armored ground targets, even with APHE shells
- Tracer and HEI (minengeschoß) have slightly different trajectories which reiterate knowing your ammunition
History
Converted from a 15mm firing MG 151/15 (15 mm) to a 20mm firing after combat evaluation proved a larger high explosive to be more effective than a high velocity shell.
Intrestingly enough a large shipment of 800 guns were lend leased to japan using the italian submarine Comandante Cappellini arming 388 japanese Ki-61-I hei figther planes.
Media
An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- The mg 151/20 was made by converting the MG 151/15 (15 mm) to fire the larger 20mm round
- references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the weapon;
- other literature.
USA aircraft cannons | |
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20 mm | AN/M2 · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 0 · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 · FMC T-160 |
M3 · M24A1 · M39 · M39A1 · M39A2 · M39A3 · M61A1 · M195 · M197 · Mk 11 · Mk 11 mod 5 · T31 | |
30 mm | M230E-1 · XM140 · GAU-8/A · GAU-13/A · LR30 |
37 mm | M4 · M9 · M10 |
40 mm | M75 · M129 |
75 mm | M10 · T13E1 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | Hispano 404 (France) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany) · Type 99 Model 1 (Japan) |
30 mm | ADEN Mk.4 (Britain) |
Germany aircraft cannons | |
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15 mm | MG 151 |
20 mm | MG 151 · MG C/30L · MG FF · MG FF/M |
27 mm | Mauser BK27 |
30 mm | MK 101 · MK 103 · MK 108 |
37 mm | BK 3.7 |
50 mm | BK 5 · Mk.214a |
75 mm | BK 7.5 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M24A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · ShVAK (USSR) |
23 mm | GSh-23L (USSR) · NR-23 (USSR) · VYa-23 (USSR) |
30 mm | DEFA 552 (France) · GSh-30-1 (USSR) · GSh-30-2K (USSR) · NR-30 (USSR) |
37 mm | N-37D (USSR) |
USSR aircraft cannons | |
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20 mm | B-20E · B-20M · B-20S · ShVAK |
23 mm | GSh-23L · NR-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · PTB-23 · VYa-23 |
30 mm | 2A42 · GSh-6-30 · GSh-30-1 · GSh-30-2 · GSh-30-2K · NR-30 |
37 mm | N-37 · N-37D · NS-37 · SH-37 |
45 mm | NS-45 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany) |
37 mm | M4 (USA) · M10 (USA) |
Japan aircraft cannons | |
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20 mm | Ho-1 · Ho-3 · Ho-5 · Type 99 Model 1 · Type 99 Model 2 |
30 mm | Ho-155 · Type 5 |
37 mm | Ho-203 · Ho-204 · Type 94 |
40 mm | Ho-301 |
57 mm | Ho-401 |
75 mm | Type 88 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | M39A3 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · M197 (USA) · MG FF (Germany) · MG FF/M (Germany) · MG 151 (Germany) |
30 mm | GAU-13/A (USA) · M230E-1 (USA) |
Italy aircraft cannons | |
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20 mm | TM197B |
30 mm | Hispano HS 825 |
37 mm | Breda Model 39 37/54 |
102 mm | 102/35 mod 14 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | B-20E (USSR) · B-20M (USSR) · B-20S (USSR) · Hispano 404 (France) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M24A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · MG 151 (Germany) · MG FF (Germany) · MG FF/M (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR) |
23 mm | GSh-23L (USSR) · NR-23 (USSR) · NS-23 (USSR) |
27 mm | Akan m/85 (Sweden) · Mauser BK27 (Germany) |
30 mm | DEFA 552 (France) · GSh-30-1 (USSR) · GSh-30-2K (USSR) · MK 103 (Germany) · MK 108 (Germany) · NR-30 (USSR) |
37 mm | BK 3.7 (Germany) · N-37 (USSR) · N-37D (USSR) |
France aircraft cannons | |
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20 mm | GIAT M.621 · Hispano 404 · Hispano HS.9 · M50 |
30 mm | DEFA 541 · DEFA 551 · DEFA 552 · DEFA 552A · DEFA 553 · DEFA 554 · GIAT M781 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | AN/M2 (USA) · Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 (USA) · Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · Hispano Mk.V (Britain) · M3 (USA) · M24A1 (USA) · M39A1 (USA) · M61A1 (USA) · MG 151 (Germany) · ShVAK (USSR) |
30 mm | ADEN (Britain) |
37 mm | M4 (USA) · M10 (USA) · NS-37 (USSR) |
France tank cannons | |
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20 mm | 20F2 |
25 mm | SA35 L/72 |
37 mm | SA18 L/21 · SA38 L/33 |
47 mm | SA34 L/30 · SA35 L/32 · SA37 |
75 mm | APX · APX Canon de 75 mm modèle 1897 · SA35 L/17 · SA44 · SA49 · SA50 L/57 |
90 mm | D.911 APX · CN90 F2 · CN90 F3 · CN90 F4 · D915 · DEFA F1 · SA45 · SA47 |
100 mm | SA47 L/58 |
105 mm | CN-105-F1 · Giat 105 G2 · Modele F2 · PzK M57 |
120 mm | GIAT CN120-25 G1 · GIAT CN120-26 F1 · SA46 |
142 mm | ACRA |
155 mm | GCT F1 · Schneider 155 C · L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 |
Foreign: | |
15 mm | MG 151 (Germany) |
20 mm | MG 151 (Germany) |
30 mm | Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 (USA) |
37 mm | M6 (USA) |
40 mm | Bofors L/60 · QF 2-pounder (Britain) |
75 mm | KwK42 (Germany) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA) |
76 mm | M7 (USA) |
90 mm | M3 (USA) |
105 mm | M4 (USA) |
Germany naval cannons | |
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15 mm | MG 151 |
20 mm | 2 cm/65 C/30 · 2 cm/65 C/38 · 2 cm/65 Flakzwilling 38 · 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 · MG 151/20 |
30 mm | MK103/38 |
37 mm | FlaK-Lafette C/36 · 3.7 cm FlaK-Lafette LM/42 · SK C/30 · FlaK.36 · FlaK43 |
40 mm | 40 mm/70 MEL58 · Bofors Flak 28 · Bofors L/70 model 1948 |
52 mm | 52 mm/55 SK L/55 |
88 mm | 8.8 cm/76 SK C/32 · S.K.C/35 · FlaK.18 · Flak.36 · 88 mm/45 AA SK L/45 · 88 mm/45 casemate SK L/45 |
100 mm | 100 mm/55 MLE model 53 |
105 mm | SK C/32 · SK C/33 AA |
120 mm | L45 |
128 mm | 12.8 cm/45 SK C/34 |
150 mm | 150 mm/45 SK L/45 · 15 cm/48 KC/36 · 15 cm/55 SK C/28 · 15 cm/60 SK C/25 |
203 mm | 20.3 cm/60 SK C/34 |
283 mm | 283 mm/45 SK L/45 · 283 mm/52 SK C/28 · 283 mm/54,5 SK C/34 |
305 mm | 305 mm/50 SK L/50 |
380 mm | 38 cm SK L/45 |
Foreign: | |
23 mm | ZU-23 (USSR) |
25 mm | 2M-3 (USSR) |
30 mm | AK-230 (USSR) |
37 mm | V-11 (USSR) |
76 mm | 76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact (Italy) |
100 mm | 100 mm/56 B-34 (USSR) |