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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''
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The HJ-8C (Chinese: 红箭-8C式反坦克导弹; renamed AFT08C after new nomenclature) is one of the variant of HJ-8 family ATGM with revised warhead with tandem probe; these missiles would be the go-to missile for PLAGF after its certification before being replaced by later HJ-8 with new guidance system and low-profile tripod.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the missile.''
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{| class="wikitable"
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! colspan="2" |'''Missile characteristics'''
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|-
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|'''Mass'''
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|11.4 kg
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|'''Guidance'''
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|Semi-automatic (SACLOS)
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|'''Maximum speed'''
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|250 m/s
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|'''Missile guidance time'''
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|16 secs
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|'''Firing range'''
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|3 km
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|'''Explosive mass'''
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|2.04 kg TNTeq
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|'''Armour penetration'''
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|590 mm
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=== Effective damage ===
 
=== Effective damage ===
''Describe the type of damage produced by this type of missile (high explosive, splash damage, etc)''
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Like its predecessor, the HJ-8C does explosion damage upon hitting the surface of the vehicles. The jet stream of molten metal will also cause shrapnel damages to internal modules and crews of vehicles, alternatively the blast will cause overpressure damage to very light vehicles.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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* [[HJ-8A]] - HJ-8C's predecessors, outperformed in all aspects especially on penetration
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* [[BGM-71C I-TOW|BGM-71C]]- The later variant of TOW; HJ-8C still lags behind in most aspects, especially damage and range.
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* [[9M114 Shturm|9M114]] - Outperformed in most aspects especially in speed and range, while having even less penetration to HJ-8C
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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By the time HJ-8C entered service, the missile itself was still lagged behind mainstreams of ATGMs at barely 600 mm penetration and rather slow flying speed, as well as the very suicidal 3 km firing range for helicopter (where MANPADS or autocannons will have no problem taking out HJ-8C's carrier out with ease); this will be the case in game as well and at its BR, players has to be extra careful on when and who to fire upon due to the aforementioned flaws. The good news is that HJ-8C is a tandem missile with sufficient penetration against tanks like T-64BV at higher impact angles even with its ERA equipped, but 590 mm is still relatively low to its counterparts albeit most of them are single-stage warheads. Plan ahead and strike enemies from where they wouldn't have expect or sneaking up on their flanks and make sure every shot counts as the explosive content is rather low which has to made every shots on enemies' critical components.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
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* Higher penetration than its predecessors with tandem warhead
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* Sufficiently large caliber for a missile
  
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Retained relatively low explosive content for devastating damages
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* Still slower than its counterparts
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* Rather short firing range at 3 km
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== History ==
 
== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''
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'''See also: [[HJ-8A]]'''
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Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996<ref>Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.</ref>; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and slightly heavier than predecessors.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;''
 
* ''reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;''
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
 
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== External links ==
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''

Revision as of 19:39, 20 March 2023

Description

The HJ-8C (Chinese: 红箭-8C式反坦克导弹; renamed AFT08C after new nomenclature) is one of the variant of HJ-8 family ATGM with revised warhead with tandem probe; these missiles would be the go-to missile for PLAGF after its certification before being replaced by later HJ-8 with new guidance system and low-profile tripod.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Missile characteristics
Mass 11.4 kg
Guidance Semi-automatic (SACLOS)
Maximum speed 250 m/s
Missile guidance time 16 secs
Firing range 3 km
Explosive mass 2.04 kg TNTeq
Armour penetration 590 mm

Effective damage

Like its predecessor, the HJ-8C does explosion damage upon hitting the surface of the vehicles. The jet stream of molten metal will also cause shrapnel damages to internal modules and crews of vehicles, alternatively the blast will cause overpressure damage to very light vehicles.

Comparison with analogues

  • HJ-8A - HJ-8C's predecessors, outperformed in all aspects especially on penetration
  • BGM-71C- The later variant of TOW; HJ-8C still lags behind in most aspects, especially damage and range.
  • 9M114 - Outperformed in most aspects especially in speed and range, while having even less penetration to HJ-8C

Usage in battles

By the time HJ-8C entered service, the missile itself was still lagged behind mainstreams of ATGMs at barely 600 mm penetration and rather slow flying speed, as well as the very suicidal 3 km firing range for helicopter (where MANPADS or autocannons will have no problem taking out HJ-8C's carrier out with ease); this will be the case in game as well and at its BR, players has to be extra careful on when and who to fire upon due to the aforementioned flaws. The good news is that HJ-8C is a tandem missile with sufficient penetration against tanks like T-64BV at higher impact angles even with its ERA equipped, but 590 mm is still relatively low to its counterparts albeit most of them are single-stage warheads. Plan ahead and strike enemies from where they wouldn't have expect or sneaking up on their flanks and make sure every shot counts as the explosive content is rather low which has to made every shots on enemies' critical components.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Higher penetration than its predecessors with tandem warhead
  • Sufficiently large caliber for a missile

Cons:

  • Retained relatively low explosive content for devastating damages
  • Still slower than its counterparts
  • Rather short firing range at 3 km

History

See also: HJ-8A

Due to the lack of information on later variants, the only known occasion of its first appearance was in a certain country where both the HJ-8C/E and BGM-71 TOW were competing for the market in 1996[1]; the new missile featured a revised warhead with tandem probe for better penetration against ERA and slightly heavier than predecessors.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Missiles
USA 
AAM  AIM-54A Phoenix · AIM-54C Phoenix · ATAS (AIM-92)
Sparrow  AIM-7C · AIM-7D · AIM-7E · AIM-7E-2 · AIM-7F · AIM-7M
Sidewinder  AIM-9B · AIM-9C · AIM-9D · AIM-9E · AIM-9G · AIM-9H · AIM-9J · AIM-9L · AIM-9M · AIM-9P
AGM  AGM-22 · APKWS II (M151) · APKWS II (M282) · BGM-71D TOW-2
Bullpup  AGM-12B Bullpup · AGM-12C Bullpup
Hellfire  AGM-114B Hellfire · AGM-114K Hellfire II
Maverick  AGM-65A · AGM-65B · AGM-65D
ATGM  LOSAT/MGM-166A
TOW  BGM-71 · BGM-71A · BGM-71B · BGM-71C
SAM  FIM-92 Stinger · MIM-72 · MIM146
Naval SAM  RIM-24A
Germany 
AAM  AIM-9B FGW.2 Sidewinder · Flz Lwf 63/80
AGM  9M14M Malyutka · Flz Lwf LB 82 · HOT-1 · HOT-2 TOW · HOT-3 · PARS 3 LR
AShM  AS.34 Kormoran
ATGM  HOT-K3S
SAM  Roland
USSR 
AAM  9M39 Igla · R-3R · R-3S · R-13M1 · R-23R · R-23T · R-24R · R-24T · R-27ER(1) · R-27ET(1) · R-27R(1) · R-27T(1) · R-60 · R-60M · R-60MK · R-73(E)
AGM  9K127 Vikhr · 9M17M Falanga · 9M120 Ataka · 9M120-1 Ataka
  Kh-23M · Kh-25 · Kh-25ML · Kh-29L · Kh-29T · Kh-29TE · Kh-29TD · Kh-66 · S-25L
ATGM  3M7 · 9M14 · 9M113 Konkurs · 9M114 Shturm · 9M123 Khrizantema · 9M133 · 9M133FM3 · 9M133M-2
SAM  95Ya6 · 9M311 · 9M311-1M · 9M331 · 9M37M
Naval SAM  Volna-M
Britain 
AAM  Fireflash · Firestreak · Red Top · Skyflash · Skyflash SuperTEMP · SRAAM
AGM  AS.12 · ZT-6 Mokopa
AShM  AJ.168
ATGM  BAe Swingfire · MILAN · MILAN 2 · ZT3
SAM  Starstreak
Japan 
AAM  AAM-3
AGM  Ki-148 I-Go Model 1B
ATGM  Type 64 MAT · Type 79 Jyu-MAT
SAM  Type 81 SAM-1C · Type 91
China 
AAM  PL-2 · PL-5B · PL-5C · PL-7 · PL-8 · TY-90
AGM  AKD-9 · AKD-10 · HJ-8A · HJ-8C · HJ-8E · HJ-8H
ATGM  302 · HJ-73 · HJ-73E · HJ-9 · QN201DD · QN502CDD
SAM  HN-6
Italy 
AAM  Aspide-1A
AGM  CIRIT · L-UMTAS · Spike ER
ATGM  Spike-LR2MR
Naval AShM  Nettuno
SAM  Mistral SATCP
France 
AAM  AA-20 Nord · Matra R511 · Matra R530 · Matra R530E · Matra Super 530D · Matra Super 530F · Matra R550 Magic 1 · Matra R550 Magic 2 · Mistral
AGM  9M14-2 Malyutka-2 · AS-20 Nord · AS-30 Nord · AS-30L Nord · HOT-1 · HOT-2 TOW · HOT-3 · Spike ER
ATGM  HOT · SS.11
SAM  Roland · VT1
Sweden 
AAM  RB24 · RB24J · RB71 · RB 74 · RB 74(M)
AGM  Rb05A · RB 53 Bantam · RB 55B Heli TOW · RB 55C Heli TOW · RB 75
ATGM  Rbs 55 · Rbs 56
SAM  Rbs 70
Israel 
AAM  Shafrir · Shafrir 2 · Python 3
ATGM  Spike-MR
  AAM = Air-to-Air Missile   AGM = Air-to-Ground Missile   AShM = Anti-Ship Missile   ATGM = Anti-Tank Guided Missile (Ground mounts)   SAM = Surface-to-Air Missile

  1. Cai Yinsheng. Song of Red Arrow Vol.3, Ordnance Knowledge  Vol 05(2014):61-63. doi:10.19437/j.cnki.11-1470/tj.2014.05.019.