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| − | The F- | + | === The "Gun Val" Project === |
| + | As is well-known that most of F-86 Saber fighters of USAF which joined the Korean War have six AN/M3 12.7mm machine-gun as their basic weapon configuration against enemy aircraft. Although the experience of the European battlefield during World War II shows that an average of 300 rounds of 12.7mm bullets can shoot down an enemy aircraft, the U.S pilot found that sometimes their 12.7 mm machine-gun can’t easily shot down enemy MiG fighters even when they score many hits on them, especially once a Soviet MiG-15 fighter was able to return to base safely even with more than 200 bullet holes. Though there were also many F-86 fighter successfully return to the airfield when they were hit by the 23 mm or 37 mm cannon of MiG-15 fighter, it was no doubt the fact that USAF needed a new airborne weapon to replace the aged 12.7 mm machine gun. | ||
| − | + | Although USAF had successfully introduced the famous M24A1 20 mm cannon on the Convair B-36 Peacemaker Strategic bomber which was the Air Force version of the Navy’s AN/M3 20 mm cannon, they don’t want to simply introduce the old 20 mm cannon to the F-86F Saber fighter because its rate of fire (700-800 rounds per minute) was found unsuitable for the modern air combat. Therefore, a research project named Gun Val was established on April 3<sup>rd</sup> 1951 to find out the most suitable cannon which could incorporating into current Saber fighter and the incoming Centuries Series Aircraft. (Other aircraft that have participated in the Gun Val program like F-94B, F-84F and F-89C will not be described in this article ) | |
| − | + | North American Aviation Company delivered four F-86E-10 and six F-86F-1 Saber fighters to the Air Material Command to test the newly developed T-160 20×102 mm cannon. As for the T-160 cannon, it was a single-barreled revolver cannon which was an imitation of the captured German MG213C 20 mm revolver cannon, the latter was transported to the USA in 1946. Thanks to the cooperation of Springfield Arsenal and the Illinois Institute of Technology, the initial development work of the T-160 cannon was finished in the early 1950s, and it was put into the production line in June 1951. In general, it was a gas-operated, belt-fed, electrically fired weapon, the cannon was capable of firing electrically primed ammunition at the rate of 1500 rounds per minute and develops a muzzle velocity of 3250 feet per second. There were five types of 20×102 mm cartridges available for the T-160 cannon, including M55A1 and M55A2 ball, M53 Armor-Piercing-Incendiary and M56 High-Explosive-Incendiary ammunition. | |
| − | The F- | + | === The Oerlikon Counterpart === |
| + | [[File:F-86F-3 with Oerlikon cannon.jpg|left|thumb|353x353px|F-86F-3 armed with Oerlikon cannons.]] | ||
| + | Apart from that, another cannon joined the competition with T-160 cannon was the Oerlikon 206 RK 20mm cannon which was also a revolver gun, it was capable of firing electrically primed ammunition at the rate of 1650 rounds per minute and develops a muzzle velocity of 3500 feet per second which were both higher than T-160 cannon. | ||
| − | The F-86F-2 | + | The 10 Saber fighters fitted with four T-160 cannon was called F-86F-2 while the remaining two Saber fighters with four Saber fighters with four Oerlikon 206 RK cannon was called F-86F-3. As for the F-86F-3, the USAF didn’t receive any of them until April 1954, and the final test report was finished in February 1955 which pointed that the Oerlikon 206 RK cannon had lots of problems that needed to be solved before it entered into service, such as the poor round dispersion of the gun and installation problems. Though the company claimed that these problems could be solved in the future, but at that time the M39 revolver cannon had been put into mass production many years ago, so not surprisingly that the Oerlikon program was canceled in the end. |
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| + | As a comparison, those ten F-86F-2 fighters equipped with T-160 cannon were much luckier. Apart from the cannon, all F-86F-2 fighters were fitted with new 6-3 wing, and both the original A-4 gun/rocket/bomb calculating sight and the AN/APG-30 Ranging Radar was remained. After the initial test was done, Lieutenant Colonel Peterson who was the project officer of Gun Val program at that time decided to took eight F-86F-2 fighters to Korea aboard the USS Windham Bay for combat trials in December 1952. | ||
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| + | All the F-86F-2 fighters were assigned to the 335<sup>th</sup> FIS of 4<sup>th</sup> FW at Kimpo, and only six aircraft were ever actually in Korea at any one time. When they arrived at Kimpo, these F-86F-2 fighters were re-painted as other original F-86F Saber fighter such as the black and yellow FEAF ID bands and yellow and black tail stripe, also the ground crews painted the third gun port on the nose under two 20mm muzzle to make them looks no difference with the original F-86F Saber fighter. Apart from that, the commander of F-86F-2 team was changed to Colonel Garrison, but Peterson was still stayed there as a contractor technician with other three contractor technicians and five assigned pilots. | ||
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| + | The combat trial was began in January 1953, though it was discovered that the cannon gas from the 20 mm cannon may cause a compressor stall which is very dangerous for both plane and its pilot, including one accident that Major Moorehead fired his 20 mm cannon in a long burst during one mission and cause the engine stop working, though he restart the engine, the problem was appeared again later. But even the Saber pilots chose to only use two cannon at one time to avoid the problem, they still fired almost 10900 rounds in combat, engaged MiG fighters in 41 missions and successfully shot down six of them (3 MiG fighters were probably destroyed and 13 MiG fighters damaged) with two F-86F-2 were damaged (one’s intake was being hit by the 37 mm shell and another one’s wing was being hit by the 23 mm shell), but unfortunately Captain Moore ’s plane suffered a flame-out accident followed by turbine failure on 30<sup>th</sup> April 1953, so he had to bail out in the end. | ||
| + | [[File:See-through of F-86H and its M39 cannons.jpg|thumb|342x342px|F-86H with M39 cannons, the successor of T-160 and the Gun Val project.]] | ||
| + | To solve these problems, Peterson not only sent the report to the test center, but also found a way to simply solve the problem: a simple horseshoe clip installed in the blast tube of the cannon broke up the cannon gas before it could enter the intake. The Gun Val combat trial program was finished on May 1953, and in order to completely solve the cannon gas problem, the engineers of North American Aviation company invented a C-shaped plate which could effectively dissipated the cannon gas, this solution was finally adopted for operational use on the late version of F-86H fighter with four M39 cannons. | ||
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| + | Inspire by the success of the Gun Val program, USAF finally decided to accept the T-160 cannon as its next-generation air-combat weapon and renamed it as M39 20 mm cannon. The first operational fighter equip with M39 cannon was North American Aviation F-86H-5 Saber fighter in mid 1950s, then it became the standard internal weapon on both North American Aviation F-100 Super Saber fighter, McDonnell F-101A Voodoo long-range escort fighter and Northrop F-5 fighter. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
Revision as of 07:08, 23 June 2021
| This page is about the American jet fighter F-86F-2. For other variants, see F-86 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The F-86F-2 Sabre is a rank VI American jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/SB) and 8.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.35.
General info
Flight performance
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 1,095 | 1,089 | 14700 | 24.7 | 25.9 | 38.8 | 35.9 | 750 |
| Upgraded | 1,115 | 1,106 | 23.6 | 24.0 | 56.5 | 46.7 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 350 | 590 | 550 | 350 | ~11 | ~6 |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < 850 | < 600 | < 650 | N/A |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Empty mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
| General Electric J47-GE-27 | 1 | 5,570 kg | 243 kg/m2 | |||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | ||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 7m fuel | 20m fuel | 26m fuel | ||
| 1,150 kg | Axial-flow turbojet | 5,927 kg | 6,569 kg | 6,866 kg | 9,530 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | |||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 7m fuel | 20m fuel | 26m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 2,626 kgf | N/A | 0.44 | 0.40 | 0.38 | 0.28 |
| Optimal | 2,626 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.44 | 0.40 | 0.38 | 0.28 |
Survivability and armour
- 6.35 mm steel - in front of cockpit
- 12.7 mm steel - behind pilot
- 38 mm bulletproof glass - armoured windscreen
- 20 mm steel pilot's headrest
Modifications and economy
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Armaments
Offensive armament
The F-86F-2 is armed with:
- 4 x 20 mm FMC T-160 cannons, nose-mounted (115 rpg = 460 total)
Suspended armament
The F-86F-2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 16 x HVAR rockets
- 2 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 Fin M129 bombs (2,000 lb total)
Usage in battles
In RB, speed is life on this plane. First thing that should be done after takeoff is gaining at least 800-900 kph IAS in level flight and zoom climbing to around 2 km(or we can fight even at the deck, all depends on situation). Maintaining speed at 800 kph is very important. BnZ is main tactic, don't engage in vertical with MiG-15bis. Sabre easily outdive MiG-15bis(Sabre have higher top speed, which means MiG-15bis won't be able to catch Sabre in level flight/dive). Avoid flying slow and turnfighting.
Radars
The F-86F-2 is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
| AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Maximum Tracking Range |
Minimum Tracking Range |
Azimuth Tracking Angle |
Elevation Tracking Angle |
| 2,750 m | 300 m | ±9° | ±9° |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Very fast roll rate
- Very accurate high-velocity cannons with little recoil
- Excels overall at high-speed manoeuvres, good for snapshots
- Good rate of turn in the horizontal
- Good zooming ability
- Energy retention superior to MiG-15
- Superior acceleration from high speeds to top speed than MiG-15
- Heavy bombs available if desired
Cons:
- Extremely high rate of fire demand strict trigger discipline
- Stock guns quickly jam when the trigger is held down
- Poor acceleration from low speeds compared to MiG-15
- Poor rate of climb
- Wings easier to rip when boosters equipped
- Air-brake is less effective than some opponents'
History
The "Gun Val" Project
As is well-known that most of F-86 Saber fighters of USAF which joined the Korean War have six AN/M3 12.7mm machine-gun as their basic weapon configuration against enemy aircraft. Although the experience of the European battlefield during World War II shows that an average of 300 rounds of 12.7mm bullets can shoot down an enemy aircraft, the U.S pilot found that sometimes their 12.7 mm machine-gun can’t easily shot down enemy MiG fighters even when they score many hits on them, especially once a Soviet MiG-15 fighter was able to return to base safely even with more than 200 bullet holes. Though there were also many F-86 fighter successfully return to the airfield when they were hit by the 23 mm or 37 mm cannon of MiG-15 fighter, it was no doubt the fact that USAF needed a new airborne weapon to replace the aged 12.7 mm machine gun.
Although USAF had successfully introduced the famous M24A1 20 mm cannon on the Convair B-36 Peacemaker Strategic bomber which was the Air Force version of the Navy’s AN/M3 20 mm cannon, they don’t want to simply introduce the old 20 mm cannon to the F-86F Saber fighter because its rate of fire (700-800 rounds per minute) was found unsuitable for the modern air combat. Therefore, a research project named Gun Val was established on April 3rd 1951 to find out the most suitable cannon which could incorporating into current Saber fighter and the incoming Centuries Series Aircraft. (Other aircraft that have participated in the Gun Val program like F-94B, F-84F and F-89C will not be described in this article )
North American Aviation Company delivered four F-86E-10 and six F-86F-1 Saber fighters to the Air Material Command to test the newly developed T-160 20×102 mm cannon. As for the T-160 cannon, it was a single-barreled revolver cannon which was an imitation of the captured German MG213C 20 mm revolver cannon, the latter was transported to the USA in 1946. Thanks to the cooperation of Springfield Arsenal and the Illinois Institute of Technology, the initial development work of the T-160 cannon was finished in the early 1950s, and it was put into the production line in June 1951. In general, it was a gas-operated, belt-fed, electrically fired weapon, the cannon was capable of firing electrically primed ammunition at the rate of 1500 rounds per minute and develops a muzzle velocity of 3250 feet per second. There were five types of 20×102 mm cartridges available for the T-160 cannon, including M55A1 and M55A2 ball, M53 Armor-Piercing-Incendiary and M56 High-Explosive-Incendiary ammunition.
The Oerlikon Counterpart
Apart from that, another cannon joined the competition with T-160 cannon was the Oerlikon 206 RK 20mm cannon which was also a revolver gun, it was capable of firing electrically primed ammunition at the rate of 1650 rounds per minute and develops a muzzle velocity of 3500 feet per second which were both higher than T-160 cannon.
The 10 Saber fighters fitted with four T-160 cannon was called F-86F-2 while the remaining two Saber fighters with four Saber fighters with four Oerlikon 206 RK cannon was called F-86F-3. As for the F-86F-3, the USAF didn’t receive any of them until April 1954, and the final test report was finished in February 1955 which pointed that the Oerlikon 206 RK cannon had lots of problems that needed to be solved before it entered into service, such as the poor round dispersion of the gun and installation problems. Though the company claimed that these problems could be solved in the future, but at that time the M39 revolver cannon had been put into mass production many years ago, so not surprisingly that the Oerlikon program was canceled in the end.
As a comparison, those ten F-86F-2 fighters equipped with T-160 cannon were much luckier. Apart from the cannon, all F-86F-2 fighters were fitted with new 6-3 wing, and both the original A-4 gun/rocket/bomb calculating sight and the AN/APG-30 Ranging Radar was remained. After the initial test was done, Lieutenant Colonel Peterson who was the project officer of Gun Val program at that time decided to took eight F-86F-2 fighters to Korea aboard the USS Windham Bay for combat trials in December 1952.
All the F-86F-2 fighters were assigned to the 335th FIS of 4th FW at Kimpo, and only six aircraft were ever actually in Korea at any one time. When they arrived at Kimpo, these F-86F-2 fighters were re-painted as other original F-86F Saber fighter such as the black and yellow FEAF ID bands and yellow and black tail stripe, also the ground crews painted the third gun port on the nose under two 20mm muzzle to make them looks no difference with the original F-86F Saber fighter. Apart from that, the commander of F-86F-2 team was changed to Colonel Garrison, but Peterson was still stayed there as a contractor technician with other three contractor technicians and five assigned pilots.
The combat trial was began in January 1953, though it was discovered that the cannon gas from the 20 mm cannon may cause a compressor stall which is very dangerous for both plane and its pilot, including one accident that Major Moorehead fired his 20 mm cannon in a long burst during one mission and cause the engine stop working, though he restart the engine, the problem was appeared again later. But even the Saber pilots chose to only use two cannon at one time to avoid the problem, they still fired almost 10900 rounds in combat, engaged MiG fighters in 41 missions and successfully shot down six of them (3 MiG fighters were probably destroyed and 13 MiG fighters damaged) with two F-86F-2 were damaged (one’s intake was being hit by the 37 mm shell and another one’s wing was being hit by the 23 mm shell), but unfortunately Captain Moore ’s plane suffered a flame-out accident followed by turbine failure on 30th April 1953, so he had to bail out in the end.
To solve these problems, Peterson not only sent the report to the test center, but also found a way to simply solve the problem: a simple horseshoe clip installed in the blast tube of the cannon broke up the cannon gas before it could enter the intake. The Gun Val combat trial program was finished on May 1953, and in order to completely solve the cannon gas problem, the engineers of North American Aviation company invented a C-shaped plate which could effectively dissipated the cannon gas, this solution was finally adopted for operational use on the late version of F-86H fighter with four M39 cannons.
Inspire by the success of the Gun Val program, USAF finally decided to accept the T-160 cannon as its next-generation air-combat weapon and renamed it as M39 20 mm cannon. The first operational fighter equip with M39 cannon was North American Aviation F-86H-5 Saber fighter in mid 1950s, then it became the standard internal weapon on both North American Aviation F-100 Super Saber fighter, McDonnell F-101A Voodoo long-range escort fighter and Northrop F-5 fighter.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
- Related development
- Canadair Sabre (those Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
- North American F-86A/F
- North American F-86D Sabre
- North American F-100 Super Sabre
- North American FJ-4 Fury
- Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
- Dassault Super Mystère
- Grumman F-9 Cougar
- Hawker Hunter
- Lavochkin La-15
- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17
- Saab J29 Tunnan
External links
| North American Aviation | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | |
| P-51A | P-51 · P-51A |
| P-51C | P-51C-10 |
| P-51D | P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30 |
| P-51H | P-51H-5-NA |
| Twin-engine fighters | F-82E |
| Jet fighters | F-86A-5 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-35 · F-100D |
| Strike aircraft | A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J |
| FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 | |
| Bombers | B-25J-1 · B-25J-20 |
| Export/Licence | ▂B-25J-30 · ␗B-25J-30 |
| ▄Mustang Mk IA · F-6C-10-NA · ␗P-51C-11-NT · ␗P-51D-20 · J26 David · J26 · P-51D-20-NA · ␗P-51K | |
| F-86F-30 ▅ · ␗F-86F-30 · F-86F-40 ▅ · F-86F-40 JASDF▅ · ␗F-86F-40 | |
| ◄F-86K · ▄F-86K (Italy) · ▄F-86K (France) | |
| ␗F-100A · ▄F-100D · ␗F-100F | |
| Captured | ▅P-51C-11-NT |
| Canadair Limited license-built the F-86 as the CL-13 for use in Canada and export to Europe. | |
| Fiat license-built the F-86K for the Italian Air Force though another 120 NAA built F-86Ks were also sold to the Italians. | |
| See Also | Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Canadair Limited · Fiat Aviation |
| USA jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | |
| F9F | F9F-2 · F9F-5 · F9F-8 |
| F-80 | F-80A-5 · F-80C-10 |
| F-84 | F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE |
| F-86 | F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35 |
| F-89 | F-89B · F-89D |
| F-100 | F-100D |
| F-104 | F-104A · F-104C |
| F-4 | F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II · F-4J Phantom II · F-4S Phantom II |
| F-5 | F-5A · F-5C · F-5E · F-20A |
| F-8 | F8U-2 · F-8E |
| F-14 | F-14A Early · ▄F-14A IRIAF · F-14B |
| F-15 | F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E |
| F-16 | F-16A · F-16A ADF · F-16C |
| Other | P-59A · F2H-2 · F3D-1 · F3H-2 · F4D-1 · F11F-1 |
| Strike Aircraft | |
| FJ-4 | FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 |
| A-4 | A-4B · A-4E Early |
| A-7 | A-7D · A-7E · A-7K |
| AV-8 | AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA) |
| A-10 | A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C |
| F-111 | F-111A · F-111F |
| Other | A-6E TRAM · F-105D · F-117 |
| Bombers | |
| B-57 | B-57A · B-57B |
