F3H-2

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F3H-2
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Description

The F3H-2 Demon is a rank VI American jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/SB) and 9.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Max speed
at 0 m1 163 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude15 240 m
EngineAllison J71-A-2
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight18 t

The F3H is quite possibly the most fun and enjoyable jet to play of the American naval jets, once fully upgraded. On first glance the jet may look big and slow and it may be in some situations, but the turning abilities and acceleration are a completely new breath of fresh air for American naval jets.

You are no longer confined to the slow acceleration, slower turns of the F9F series, but are almost if not completely capable of going tip of the spear with full afterburner and charging the enemy, that is with a smart head on charge with your subsonic jet. Note that the leading edge slats can be controlled manually by engaged combat flaps (pressing F by default for flaps) which take your already amazing elevator control to a next level even at lower speeds!

When flying this jet, you can really stretch your legs with different tactics: you have great ordnance for Ground battles, you have great air to air performance. The mix of the two major combat scenarios make this jet a truly universal naval jet with just about any play style for anyone available in someway.

Important things to remember:

  • While you may be able to turn fight a MiG for a short period of time, it's important to employ vertical and hi yo-yo manoeuvres as at low speed your aircraft will feel very brick-like. This can be semi-negated by using the combat flaps to extend your leading edge slats.
  • The aircraft is very fuel-hungry when using afterburner which drastically increases flight acceleration and overall performance so it is recommended to bring around 20-30 minutes of fuel.
  • On take-off there is a tail strike guard, but the elevator may tap the ground if you're not using a full "stick back" takeoff.
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,149 1,141 15240 29.6 30.6 58.0 53.5 750
Upgraded 1,177 1,163 26.6 28.0 87.5 72.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1360 463 833 786 370 ~11 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 810 < 750 < 700 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Allison J71-A-2 1 9,965 kg 299 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 17m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 59m fuel
2,180 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 11,296 kg 11,465 kg 12,216 kg 13,341 kg 14,405 kg 18,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 17m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 59m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,590 kgf 6,334 kgf 0.56 0.55 0.52 0.47 0.44 0.35
Optimal 4,774 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
8,169 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
0.72 0.71 0.67 0.61 0.57 0.45

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 360 km/h
Gear463 km/h
  • No armour protection
  • Large aircraft compared to Sabres and MiGs
  • The engine is quite large resulting in grazing bullets probably hitting your engine
  • The wings are more than capable of taking high G forces so there is no need to worry about high speed turns
  • Fuel tanks are located throughout the belly and shoulders of the wings so there is the chance of fires being started

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 800 → 3 782 Sl icon.png
RB10 480 → 14 158 Sl icon.png
SB17 380 → 23 480 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications201 300 Rp icon.png
314 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 600 Ge icon.png
Crew training170 000 Sl icon.png
Experts590 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces950 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
90 / 270 / 300 % Sl icon.png
220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
670 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
670 Ge icon.png
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mk_12_mod3_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
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AERO 6A
Research:
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Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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Mk81
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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AN-M57A1 BOX
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
AERO 7D
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
AN-M64A1 BOX
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
380 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
mk_12_mod3_new_gun
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow right 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
8 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air midrange missile.png
AIM-7С
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
670 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk118
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
25 000 Sl icon.png
670 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition760 rounds
Fire rate996 shots/min

The F3H-2 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm Browning-Colt Mk12 Mod 3 cannons, chin-mounted (190 rpg = 760 total).

These guns have good muzzle velocity, good rate of fire and deal decent damage. Combined with their large ammo pool, they are effective offensive armament. The only real downside is the very poor accuracy without the "New 20 mm cannons" modification, making longer range shots problematic despite the good velocity.

Suspended armament

Number of setups22
List of setups
Setup 12 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 26 x 250 lb AN-M57 bomb
Setup 36 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bomb
Setup 46 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bomb
Setup 54 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 62 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 76 x 250 lb AN-M57 bomb
2 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
Setup 82 x 2000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb
Setup 91 x 3000 lb M118 Demolition bomb
Setup 1056 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 11114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 124 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 132 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 141 x 3000 lb M118 Demolition bomb
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 152 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 162 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 174 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
Setup 182 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 192 x 1000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bomb
2 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
Setup 201 x 3000 lb M118 Demolition bomb
2 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
Setup 212 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
Setup 222 x AIM-7C Sparrow air-to-air missiles
76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

The F3H-2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,500 lb total)
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 6 x 250 lb AN-M57 bombs (3,500 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
  • 56 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 114 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 4 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles
  • 2 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles + 1 x 3,000 lb M118 bomb (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles + 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 2 x AIM-7C Sparrow missiles + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

Usage in battles

In Air Realistic battles, it is recommended to start a match with a fuel load of 20 minutes, gaining speed of around 950 km/h, and putting the plane at a 15 to 20 degree climb. The amount of climb is entirely dependent on the pilots play style, as more aggressive players will enjoy a lower altitude. AIM-7C sparrows are best to use at the beginning of the battle, on enemies that are climbing. As most planes around this BR do not have Radar Warning Receivers, if the target did not notice the sparrow launch, it's likely to get hit by it. If it did notice the missile, it won't have a very hard time dodging it, as the AIM-7C has a considerably weaker performance compared to the AIM-7D/E (worse seeker angles, much weaker rocket engine combined with the slower speed of the F3H-2 leading to much shorter range, worse proximity fuse etc.). Since the F3H has a high manoeuvrability, it is recommended to go after lower-ranked vehicles, like the F-86A, MiG-15, and the Hunter F.1. If the F3H gets into a uncomfortable situation against these planes, it can simply dive away to avoid getting caught. Getting used to the four 20 mm cannons will also assist, as their damage is high, allowing for swift attacks in intercepting manoeuvres. The most dangerous enemies of the F3H are the G.91 YS, and Lightning F.6 pilots, as they pick it off quite easily.

Radars

The F3H-2 is equipped with an AN/APQ-50 search and tracking radar. The radar is mounted in the nose of the aircraft and can be used to guide the AIM-7C.

AN/APQ-50 - Target Detection Radar
Maximum
Detection
Range
Guaranteed
Detection
Range
Max Azimuth
Scan Angle
Max Elevation
Scan Angle
370,000 m
(theoretical)
40,000 m ±50.0° -8.15°/+4.15°
AN/APQ-50 - Target Tracking Radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range
Minimum
Tracking
Range
Azimuth Tracking
Angle
Elevation Tracking
Angle
92,500 m 200 m ±58.0° ±58.0°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Radar combined with AIM-7 Sparrow missiles make it effective in simulator battles in its BR range, because no other plane there has BVR capabilities
  • One of the faster planes compared to its peers
  • Can carry 4 AIM-9B/AIM-7C missiles (useful for low speed chases and stall outs/high altitude combat)
  • Wide variety of payload options
  • Very good manoeuvrability
  • Good cockpit visibility with well placed in cockpit radar position

Cons:

  • Lack of both ballistic computer and lack of guided air-to-ground weaponry make it a highly questionable CAS option, despite having a wide variety of payload options
  • Loses much of its speed when manoeuvring
  • Missiles may be a disappointment if not used correctly
  • Is not Mach capable compared to its biggest competitors (i.e. MiG-19S, MiG-19PT, MiG-21F-13, Lightning F.6, J-7II)

History

The McDonnell F3H Demon was the product of a new swept-wing naval fighter to compete with the F4D Skyray. The aircraft was McDonell's first swept-wing fighter, and also one of the first American fighters to be armed with air-to-air missiles. Originally intended to fight MiG-15s over the Korean peninsula, the aircraft entered service too late to participate in that conflict but went on to become an important carrier-based fighter aircraft, serving until 1964. Along with the F11F Tiger and F8U Crusader, the aircraft was eventually replaced by the F-4 Phantom II - itself being an enlarged evolution of the Demon.

Design and development
The first F3H-1N aircraft in 1954.

The F3H Demon was a new swept-wing aircraft design built around the Westinghouse J40 engine, competing with the F4D Skyray. At that time, the Navy desperately needed a naval fighter to engage the swept-wing MiG-15s commonly encountered over the skies of Korea. As a result, the F3H-1N aircraft were ordered even before the test flight of the XF3H prototype. However, by that time, the Korean war was drawing to a close, meaning the aircraft would not see combat in the Korean theatre.

The aircraft was centred around the Westinghouse J40, an ambitious engine design intended to produce 50 kN of thrust. However, the engine was a failure, only producing half its required thrust. Even worse, the engine was unreliable and resulted in loss of eleven aircraft and four pilots out of the 35 F3H-1N aircraft. As a result the remaining 24 F3H-1N aircraft were permanently grounded, leading to a major fiasco. The J40 engine was cancelled in late 1955.

At that point, the aircraft required a new engine. It was subsequently redesigned around the Allison J71, a more powerful engine producing 64 kN of thrust with afterburner. This engine dramatically improved the aircraft's flying characteristics, though problems were still encountered with engine reliability and ejection seats. At this point, the redesigned aircraft became the F3H-2.

Operational history

Despite the remaining issues with the aircraft's airframe, the Navy ordered a total of 239 F3H-2 Demons. These aircraft began entering service in March 1956, and additional Demons were delivered until the end of production in late 1959. By that point, a total of 519 aircraft of various variants had been built. The aircraft gained praise from pilots for being a reliable aircraft, and relatively easy to take-off and land from carrier decks. The aircraft was also the first naval fighter to be fitted with a radar, giving it some night-fighter capabilities. The aircraft was capable of carrying the AIM-9B Sidewinder, and later F3H-2M variants introduced the first AIM-7 Sparrows.

Despite the aircraft's strong capabilities, it was still limited by fundamental issues with the aircraft's performance. The J71, though powerful, did not give the aircraft sufficient performance. As a result, the plane was limited to subsonic speeds, and had inferior acceleration to many of its Air Force counterparts. Despite that, the aircraft still served as the primary carrier-based fighter on American aircraft carriers, complemented by the F11F and F8U daylight dogfighters. During service, the aircraft was frequently nicknamed "The Chair" due to its excellent cockpit visibility, as well as "Lead sled" due to its lacking engine power. Pilots of the F3H were called "Demon Drivers" while ground personnel were nicknamed "Demon Doctors".

The F3H Demon started to get replaced by the larger and faster F4H (F-4) Phantom II beginning from 1961. The Phantom itself began as an advanced development of the Demon, known as the "Super Demon". The larger and faster Phantom went on to enjoy a long and distinguished service life serving with the air forces of many countries. The last Demon squadron, VF-161 "Chargers", flew their Demons until late 1964 when they traded them for the newer Phantom. Though the aircraft saw some action over the skies of the South China Sea, the aircraft never engaged in actual combat. Three F3H airframes remain intact today, held at various museums.

Devblog

Development of the F3H began in 1949, with the McDonnell Aircraft Corporation starting work on developing a successor to their F2H Banshee. Although the initial design work was heavily based on the Banshee, the final design of the F3H would depart from its predecessor by most notably offering a single engine configuration and introducing a swept-wing design - a first for McDonnell.

With the outbreak of the Korean War in the early 1950s and the Navy's first encounters with the Soviet MiG-15, the Navy found itself realizing that they lacked an aircraft which could match the MiG's performance. As a result, the F3H was hastily ordered into production before even the first test flights were held. In fact, the F3H would undertake its maiden flight in August 1951, but it would take several more years until the aircraft was fit for service, by which time the Korean War had already ended.

The F3H Demon entered service with the USN in March 1956, by which time it had already gained an unfavorable reputation, mainly due to issues concerning its underpowered and unreliable Westinghouse J40 turbojet engine. As a result, the aircraft had to be redesigned in order to accept a more reliable alternative - namely, the Allison J71.

Due to its various problems, the F3H had a relatively short service life with the USN, being decommissioned by 1964 and succeeded by the much more successful F-4 Phantom II. Despite this, well over 500 units of the F3H Demon were built, taking part in some conflicts during the late '50s, such as the Lebanon Crisis in 1958. In addition, it was one of the first U.S. aircraft to be fitted with missile armament.

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McDonnell Aircraft Corporation
Jet Fighters  F2H-2 · F3H-2
  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II
Export / License  F-4EJ Phantom II · F-4F Early · F-4F · Phantom FG.1 · Phantom FGR.2
  The McDonnell Aircraft Corporation merged with Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967 to form McDonnell Douglas.
See Also  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries

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