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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_I-185M-82.jpg|420px|thumb|left|The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' in the garage]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.37]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced into the game in [[Update 1.37]].
 
  
The I-185 M-82 is most characteristic of a Russian version of a Fw 190, as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all trades role. Like most Russian fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance; however, it does have a higher usable ceiling than that of, say, the Yaks.
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The I-185 is best described as a Soviet equivalent to a [[Fw 190 (Family)|Fw 190]], as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom tactics. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all-trades role. Like most Soviet fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance, even if it has a higher usable ceiling than Yak fighters.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,470 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,470 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
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! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
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| 583 || ? || 10,450 || 23.5 || ??.? || 12.3 || ??.? || 358
 
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
 
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,470 m)
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
 
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! AB
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! Stock
! RB
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| 586 || 567 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 23.2 || 24.0 || 13.9 || 13.9 || rowspan="2" | 358
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
 
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| ? || ? || 10,450 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 358
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! Upgraded
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| 645 || 615 || 20.9 || 22.0 || 24.9 || 18.5
 
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|}
  
====Details====
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==== Details ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
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|-
! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
 
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
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| 780 || 350 || 520 || ~26 || ~13
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| 800 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 380 || 354 || 280 || ~14 || ~7
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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| < 440 || < 520 || < 520 || > 270
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| < 400 || < 250 || < 500 || > 350
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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* 8 mm Steel - Armour plating behind the pilot seat
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* No armoured glass
! Optimal altitude
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* Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
! 100% Engine power
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* More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 2,050 m || 1,400 hp || 1,722 hp
 
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! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 5,100 m || 1,180 hp || ?,??? hp
 
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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* 8 mm Steel - Armor plating behind pilot seat
 
* No armour glazing
 
* Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
 
* More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage
 
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|ShVAK (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|ShVAK (20 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
* 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, top nose mount (250 rounds)
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* 3 x 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted (250 rpg top + 140 rpg left + 170 rpg right = 560 total)
* 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, right side nose mount (170 rounds)
 
* 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, left side nose mount (140 rounds)
 
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|FAB-100 (100 kg)|FAB-250M43 (250 kg)|RS-82|RBS-82}}
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{{main|FAB-100sv (100 kg)|FAB-250sv (250 kg)|RS-82|RBS-82}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can outfit external ordinance in the following options:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
* 2 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (200 kg total)
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* 2 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (200 kg total)
* 4 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (400 kg total)
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* 4 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (400 kg total)
* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (500 kg total)
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* 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
* 8 x 82 mm RS-82 rockets
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* 8 x RS-82 rockets
* 8 x 82 mm RBS-82 rockets
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* 8 x RBS-82 rockets
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=== Defensive armament ===
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== Usage in battles ==
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Climb to 4-5,000 m (13,123-16,404 ft) and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Bf 109 G/F or Spitfire Mk Vc/F Mk IXs.
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' excels at Boom & Zoom, however, is extremely lacking when it comes to turn-fighting, as it will usually end tragically. If desperate, try rolling scissors, as it can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique '''leading-edge slats''' give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB.
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Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely accurate due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVAKs tend to spark quite a LOT, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes.
Climb to 4 - 5000 m and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Fw 190 A-4 and try to lure them into turn-fighting '''if possible'''. If not, rolling scissors can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique '''leading-edge slats''' give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB.  
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Make sure to attack from an angle when using the ShVAKs; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 400 to 500 m (0.25-0.31 mi).
Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely potent due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVaks tend to spark quite a bit, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes.
 
Make sure to attack from an angle when using the Shvaks; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 0.4 to 0.5km.
 
  
 
====Specific enemies worth noting====
 
====Specific enemies worth noting====
 
<!--Some concerning vehicles to worry about if playing this plane. (i.e. Japanese fighters will out turn you)-->
 
<!--Some concerning vehicles to worry about if playing this plane. (i.e. Japanese fighters will out turn you)-->
Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will out turn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile, but packs a far bigger punch. The German minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods.
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Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will outturn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile but packs a far bigger punch. The German Minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods.
If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you, and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, quite often at the same time.
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If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome Minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, often at the same time.
===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
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|-
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
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! Oil
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
! Water
 
! Type  
 
 
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Separate || Controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
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===Modules===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
!colspan = "1"| Tier
 
!colspan = "2"| Flight performance
 
!colspan = "1"| Survivability
 
!colspan = "2"| Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| Fuselage Repair
 
| Radiator
 
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| DZ-40
 
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| II
 
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| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| DER-25
 
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| III
 
| Wing Repair
 
| Engine
 
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| RO-82
 
| Offensive 20 mm
 
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| IV
 
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| Engine Injection
 
| Cover
 
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| New 20 mm Cannons
 
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Good armament.
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* All armaments are located in nose.
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* Good armament
* Good roll rate.
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* All armaments are located in the nose
* Great climb rate and acceleration when maxed.
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* Good roll rate
* Relatively small- low profile.
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* Great climb rate and acceleration when spaded
* Good Boom & Zoom capability- has WEP instead of the 110% boost the I-185 M-72 has.
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* Relatively small- low profile
* Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line.
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* Good Boom & Zoom capability
* Leading edge slats provide extra lift in maneuvers.
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* Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line
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* Leading edge slats provide extra lift in manoeuvres
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Cannons all have different ammo amounts.
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* Lack of cannon spread.
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* Cannons all have different ammo amounts
* Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from cannons) can tear off a wing.
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* Lack of cannon spread
* Poor turn rate.
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* Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from German and American cannons) can tear off a wing (or the tail)
* Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread.
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* Poor turn rate
* Poor stock belts.
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* Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread
* Poor cockpit visibility.
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* Mediocre stock belts and terrible upgraded belts.
* Control surfaces suffer extreme lock up at speeds above 700 km/h
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* Is only "decent" under ~4.5 km altitude
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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{{Navigation-Start|{{Annotation|Archive of the in-game description|An archive of the historical description of the vehicle that was presented in-game prior to Update 1.55 'Royal Armour'}}|expand=true}}
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A single-seat cantilever monoplane with a closed cockpit and retractable landing gear with a tail wheel.
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The first prototype flight took place on 21 June 1941. Only two of these fighters were built, with another rebuilt from the fourth I-185 prototype with the M-71 engine.
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The plane was powered by the 18-cylinder twin-row air-cooled Shvetsov M-82A radial engine with a rated output of 1,390 hp (maximum power in emergency mode – 1,600 hp). It had the three-blade variable-pitch AV-5-119 metal propeller.
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The fuel system included three fuel tanks: two in the central wing section and one in the fuselage. It used 4B-78 aviation fuel with an octane rating of no lower than 95. A single conduit in the bottom of the fuselage housed two oil coolers.
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The airplane possessed three 20 mm synchronized Shpitalny-Vladimirov ShVAK autocannons. Tests were carried out on the I-185/M-82A with an ammunition complement of 500, 510 and 520 shells.
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Four bomb racks were installed under the wing. They could carry four bombs of up to 100 kg or two of up to 250 kg. In addition, the design allowed the suspension of eight RS-82 rockets under the wing.
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The two I-185/М-82А prototypes underwent practical testing in combat operations on the Kalinin front in the winter of 1942, and earned glowing recommendations from front-line pilots. The I-185's first combat flight took place on 9 December 1942, and its last on 12 January 1943.
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The I-185/M-82A turned out to be a very reliable aircraft. Its engine didn't present any nasty surprises, and its maximum speed when it underwent state testing was only 15 km/h lower than that of the I-185/M-71. Its powerful armament also worked perfectly. Experts believed that this very plane could have been the prototype for a series of fighters. Nonetheless, the plane did not go into active service or series production.
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=i_185_m82 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
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{{Youtube-gallery|vL3g8koBZlk|'''Realistic: I-185 (M-82) [Magnificent!]''' - ''Jengar''|DcJgmM54f-k|'''Review: I-185 (M-82)'''  - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}}
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== See also ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
  
== Read also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
 
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
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== Sources ==
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== External links ==
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* ''other literature.''
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/86510-polikarpov-i-185-m-82/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
  
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{{AirManufacturer Polikarpov}}
 
{{USSR fighters}}
 
{{USSR fighters}}

Latest revision as of 22:15, 19 November 2022

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
This page is about the Soviet fighter I-185 (M-82). For the other version, see I-185 (M-71).
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I-185 (M-82)
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Description

The I-185 (M-82) is a rank III Soviet fighter with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB) and 3.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.37.

The I-185 is best described as a Soviet equivalent to a Fw 190, as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom tactics. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all-trades role. Like most Soviet fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance, even if it has a higher usable ceiling than Yak fighters.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 6 470 m615 km/h
Turn time22 s
Max altitude10 450 m
EngineShvetsov M-82
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight4 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 6,470 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 586 567 10450 23.2 24.0 13.9 13.9 358
Upgraded 645 615 20.9 22.0 24.9 18.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
800 320 380 354 280 ~14 ~7
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 400 < 250 < 500 > 350

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear320 km/h
  • 8 mm Steel - Armour plating behind the pilot seat
  • No armoured glass
  • Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB892 → 1 120 Sl icon.png
RB1 917 → 2 407 Sl icon.png
SB2 840 → 3 567 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications19 500 Rp icon.png
32 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost980 Ge icon.png
Crew training13 000 Sl icon.png
Experts47 000 Sl icon.png
Aces400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces280 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
50 / 130 / 270 % Sl icon.png
136 / 136 / 136 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
1 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
1 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 400 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 400 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
DZ-40
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 100 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Der-25
Research:
1 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 500 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
RO-82
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
shvak_belt_pack
Research:
1 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 000 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
shvak_new_gun
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 400 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: ShVAK (20 mm)

The I-185 (M-82) is armed with:

  • 3 x 20 mm ShVAK cannons, nose-mounted (250 rpg top + 140 rpg left + 170 rpg right = 560 total)

Suspended armament

The I-185 (M-82) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (200 kg total)
  • 4 x 100 kg FAB-100sv bombs (400 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250sv bombs (500 kg total)
  • 8 x RS-82 rockets
  • 8 x RBS-82 rockets

Usage in battles

Climb to 4-5,000 m (13,123-16,404 ft) and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Bf 109 G/F or Spitfire Mk Vc/F Mk IXs.

The I-185 (M-82) excels at Boom & Zoom, however, is extremely lacking when it comes to turn-fighting, as it will usually end tragically. If desperate, try rolling scissors, as it can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique leading-edge slats give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB. Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely accurate due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVAKs tend to spark quite a LOT, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes. Make sure to attack from an angle when using the ShVAKs; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 400 to 500 m (0.25-0.31 mi).

Specific enemies worth noting

Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will outturn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile but packs a far bigger punch. The German Minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods. If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome Minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, often at the same time.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Not auto controlled
Separate Controllable
2 gears
Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good armament
  • All armaments are located in the nose
  • Good roll rate
  • Great climb rate and acceleration when spaded
  • Relatively small- low profile
  • Good Boom & Zoom capability
  • Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line
  • Leading edge slats provide extra lift in manoeuvres

Cons:

  • Cannons all have different ammo amounts
  • Lack of cannon spread
  • Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from German and American cannons) can tear off a wing (or the tail)
  • Poor turn rate
  • Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread
  • Mediocre stock belts and terrible upgraded belts.
  • Is only "decent" under ~4.5 km altitude

History


Archive of the in-game description

A single-seat cantilever monoplane with a closed cockpit and retractable landing gear with a tail wheel.

The first prototype flight took place on 21 June 1941. Only two of these fighters were built, with another rebuilt from the fourth I-185 prototype with the M-71 engine.

The plane was powered by the 18-cylinder twin-row air-cooled Shvetsov M-82A radial engine with a rated output of 1,390 hp (maximum power in emergency mode – 1,600 hp). It had the three-blade variable-pitch AV-5-119 metal propeller.

The fuel system included three fuel tanks: two in the central wing section and one in the fuselage. It used 4B-78 aviation fuel with an octane rating of no lower than 95. A single conduit in the bottom of the fuselage housed two oil coolers.

The airplane possessed three 20 mm synchronized Shpitalny-Vladimirov ShVAK autocannons. Tests were carried out on the I-185/M-82A with an ammunition complement of 500, 510 and 520 shells.

Four bomb racks were installed under the wing. They could carry four bombs of up to 100 kg or two of up to 250 kg. In addition, the design allowed the suspension of eight RS-82 rockets under the wing.

The two I-185/М-82А prototypes underwent practical testing in combat operations on the Kalinin front in the winter of 1942, and earned glowing recommendations from front-line pilots. The I-185's first combat flight took place on 9 December 1942, and its last on 12 January 1943.

The I-185/M-82A turned out to be a very reliable aircraft. Its engine didn't present any nasty surprises, and its maximum speed when it underwent state testing was only 15 km/h lower than that of the I-185/M-71. Its powerful armament also worked perfectly. Experts believed that this very plane could have been the prototype for a series of fighters. Nonetheless, the plane did not go into active service or series production.


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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Polikarpov Design Bureau (Опытное конструкторское бюро Поликарпова)
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I-153  I-153 M-62 · Zhukovsky's I-153-M62 · I-153P
I-16  I-16 type 5 · I-16 type 10 · I-16 type 18 · I-16 type 24 · I-16 type 27 · I-16 type 28
I-180  I-180S · I-185 (M-71) · I-185 (M-82)
ITP  ITP (M-1)
Twin-engine fighters  TIS MA
Bombers  Po-2 · Po-2M
Export  ␗I-15bis · ␗I-153 M-62 · ␗I-16 type 5 · ␗I-16 type 10 · ␗I-16 type 17 · ␗I-16 Chung 28

USSR fighters
I-15  I-15 WR · I-15 M-22 · I-15 M-25 · I-15bis · Krasnolutsky's I-15bis
  I-153 M-62 · Zhukovsky's I-153-M62 · I-153P
I-16  I-16 type 5 · I-16 type 10 · I-16 type 18 · I-16 type 24 · I-16 type 27 · I-16 type 28 · I-180S
I-29  I-29
I-185  I-185 (M-71) · I-185 (M-82)
I-225  I-225
ITP  ITP (M-1)
MiG-3  MiG-3-15 · MiG-3-15 (BK) · MiG-3-34
LaGG  I-301 · LaGG-3-4 · LaGG-3-8 · LaGG-3-11 · LaGG-3-23 · LaGG-3-34 · LaGG-3-35 · LaGG-3-66
La  La-5 · La-5F · La-5FN · La-7 · Dolgushin's La-7 · La-7B-20 · La-9 · La-11
Yak-1/7  Yak-1 · Yak-1B · Yak-7B
Yak-3  Yak-3 · Eremin's Yak-3(e) · Yak-3P · Yak-3T · Yak-3U · Yak-3 (VK-107)
Yak-9  Yak-9 · Yak-9B · Golovachev's Yak-9M · Yak-9T · Yak-9K · Yak-9U · Yak-9UT · Yak-9P
Other countries  ▂P-40E-1 · ▂P-47D-27 · ▂Hurricane Mk IIB · ▂Fw 190 D-9 · ▂Spitfire Mk IXc
P-39  ▂P-39K-1 · ▂Pokryshkin's P-39N-0 · ▂P-39Q-15
P-63  ▂P-63A-5 · ▂P-63A-10 · ▂P-63C-5