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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' were M36B2s assembled at the Japanese depot of Akabane to be shipped to the Korean Peninsula to fight in the Korean War among US troops. Not meant for Japanese service, a single ''standard'' M36 was redirected to the JGSDF for research purposes in assistance towards the domestic tank program of the Japanese, which would eventually become the [[Type 61]].
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Not meant for Japanese service, a single '''M36''' was supplied to the JGSDF for research purposes in assistance towards the domestic Japanese tank program, which would eventually become the [[Type 61]].
  
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It was introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]]. The Japanese M36 GMC is essentially the same as the [[M36 GMC]], with a few improvements. It has a new muzzle brake and bore evacuator. It uses the later M82A1 round which increases penetration. It also has a hull MG, and roof armour that is 6 mm thick. The most attractive feature of this M36 is its HEAT-FS ammunition, which can easily destroy most targets.
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Introduced in [[Update "Danger Zone"]], the Japanese M36 GMC is essentially the same as the [[M36 GMC]], with a few improvements. It has a new muzzle brake and bore evacuator. It uses the later M82A1 round which increases penetration. It also has a hull MG, and roof armour that is 6 mm thick. The most attractive feature of this M36 is its HEAT-FS ammunition, which can easily destroy most targets.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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The armour of the turret roof is only 6.5 mm thick, the sides are 17-31.75 mm thick and ammo stowage is only 25.4 mm thick, this makes it vulnerable against attacks from aircraft, artillery strikes, SPAAGs, overpressure and machine guns (namely 50. caliber and above). The M36B2 is notably tall and large for a tank destroyer, which makes it harder to conceal and somewhat limits what type of cover is effective.
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The armour of the turret roof is only 6.5 mm thick, the sides are 17-31.75 mm thick and ammo stowage is only 25.4 mm thick, this makes it vulnerable against attacks from aircraft, artillery strikes, SPAAGs, overpressure and machine guns (namely .50 calibre and above). The M36 is notably tall and large for a tank destroyer, which makes it harder to conceal and somewhat limits what type of cover is effective.
  
 
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The 10° gun depression gives the M36B2 the capability to shoot over hills. The reload speed is pretty long with a loaded ready rack, making engagements more dangerous, especially if there is a lack of cover.
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The 10° gun depression gives the M36 the capability to shoot over hills. The reload speed is pretty long with a loaded ready rack, making engagements more dangerous, especially if there is a lack of cover.
  
 
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=== M36s in Japan ===
 
=== M36s in Japan ===
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Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the GHQ (General Headquarters of Allied occupation) ordered Japan to re-militarize, while the US also provided plenty of [[M4A3 (76) W (Japan)|M4A3 (76) W]] and [[M24 (Japan)|M24]] tanks to help Japan form their armed police force, the NPR (National Police Reserve), so more US forces could fight in Korea while Japan could still maintain reserve manpower for defense. Multiple M36B2s were assembled at a depot in Akabane which would be shipped to the Korea peninsula to support South Korean and American forces.
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Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the GHQ (General Headquarters of Allied occupation) ordered Japan to re-militarize, while the US also provided plenty of [[M4A3 (76) W (Japan)|M4A3 (76) W]] and [[M24 (Japan)|M24]] tanks to help Japan form their armed police force, the NPR (National Police Reserve), so more US forces could fight in Korea while Japan could still maintain reserve manpower for defense. However, the tanks that the NPR received were too big for the average Japanese tanker. In order to replace the obsolete Sherman and Chaffee tanks, Japan received a M36 for research purposes, to help develop a new domestically designed tank, which would eventually become the [[Type 61]].
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Contrary to popular belief, the M36 sent to the Japanese was ''NOT'' of the B2 variant. Instead, it was a standard M36 which had been rearmed with the M3A1 gun. This can be proven by a look at its engine deck, which can positively identify what engine the vehicle is using since the size and shape of the grills wildly differed depending on what engine was used. The standard M36's grills wide and rectangular due to the fact it is based on the M10A1 and thus uses a larger and stronger 500hp engine. The M36B2, on the other hand, is based on the ''standard'' M10 hull and thus uses a 410hp engine, which resulted in smaller square grills. The Japanese M36 features the former and is thus a standard M36.
 
  
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However, the tanks that the NPR received were too big for the average Japanese tanker. In order to replace the obsolete Sherman and Chaffee tanks, Japan got a M36B2 for research purposes to help develop a new domestically designed tank, which would eventually be developed into the [[Type 61]].
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Multiple M36B2s were also assembled at a depot in Akabane, to be shipped to the Korean peninsula to support South Korean and American forces.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==

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Description

Not meant for Japanese service, a single M36 was supplied to the JGSDF for research purposes in assistance towards the domestic Japanese tank program, which would eventually become the Type 61.

Introduced in Update "Danger Zone", the Japanese M36 GMC is essentially the same as the M36 GMC, with a few improvements. It has a new muzzle brake and bore evacuator. It uses the later M82A1 round which increases penetration. It also has a hull MG, and roof armour that is 6 mm thick. The most attractive feature of this M36 is its HEAT-FS ammunition, which can easily destroy most targets.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull38 / 19 / 19
Turret76 / 31 / 25
Crew5 people
Visibility101 %

The armour of the turret roof is only 6.5 mm thick, the sides are 17-31.75 mm thick and ammo stowage is only 25.4 mm thick, this makes it vulnerable against attacks from aircraft, artillery strikes, SPAAGs, overpressure and machine guns (namely .50 calibre and above). The M36 is notably tall and large for a tank destroyer, which makes it harder to conceal and somewhat limits what type of cover is effective.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Transmission area)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 38.1 mm (56°) Front glacis
50.8-107.8 (9-63°) Transmission housing 		19.05 mm (37°) Top
25.4 mm Bottom 		19.05 mm (42°) Top
19.05 (1-45°) Bottom 		19.5 mm Front roof
9.5 mm Engine deck
Turret 31.75 mm (2-53°) Turret front
76.2 mm (°) Gun mantlet 		31.75 mm (0-21°) 25.4 mm (2-23°) 6.5 mm

Notes:

  • Tracks are 20 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick while the wheels are 20 mm thick.
  • Small slivers of 5 mm armour hang off the top side hull armour, giving minuscule protections at those areas.
  • Track blocks on the side hull armour allows an extra 20 mm of armour at their locations.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB52 / 7 km/h
RB and SB48 / 7 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight29.9 t
Engine power
AB954 hp
RB and SB500 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB31.9 hp/t
RB and SB16.7 hp/t

The lacklustre acceleration makes the tank struggle greatly with climbing slopes, hills and limits its manoeuvrability, the engine upgrades only somewhat alleviate this issue.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 52 7 29.9 582 954 19.46 31.91
Realistic 48 7 363 500 12.14 16.72

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 427 → 3 002 Sl icon.png
RB2 866 → 3 545 Sl icon.png
SB3 956 → 4 893 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications40 200 Rp icon.png
77 900 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training45 000 Sl icon.png
Experts155 000 Sl icon.png
Aces630 Ge icon.png
Research Aces440 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 160 / 210 % Sl icon.png
160 / 160 / 160 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
2 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement jp.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
2 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_us_M82_APCBC_ammo_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_us_M304_APCR_ammo_pack
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 500 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
2 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_us_M332_APCR_ammo_pack
Research:
2 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_us_T108_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
90mm_us_M313_Smoke_ammo_pack
Research:
3 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

90 mm M3A1 cannon
Ammunition47 rounds
First-order11 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
9.7 → 7.5 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
Main article: M3A1 (90 mm)

The 10° gun depression gives the M36 the capability to shoot over hills. The reload speed is pretty long with a loaded ready rack, making engagements more dangerous, especially if there is a lack of cover.

90 mm M3A1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 47 -10°/+20° ±180° N/A 21.1 29.3 35.5 39.3 41.8 9.75 8.63 7.95 7.50
Realistic 14.3 16.8 20.4 22.6 24.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M318 shot APBC 175 173 161 147 135 123
M82 shot APCBC 185 182 169 155 142 130
M304 shot APCR 287 281 259 234 211 191
M332 shot APCR 291 286 264 240 217 197
M348 shell HEATFS 305 305 305 305 305 305
M71 shell HE 20 20 18 17 16 16
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M318 shot APBC 853 10.98 - - - 47° 60° 65°
M82 shot APCBC 853 10.91 1.2 14 137.2 48° 63° 71°
M304 shot APCR 1,021 7.62 - - - 66° 70° 72°
M332 shot APCR 1,165 5.7 - - - 66° 70° 72°
M348 shell HEATFS 853 6.5 0.05 0.1 926.17 65° 72° 77°
M71 shell HE 823 10.55 0.2 0.1 1,210 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Screen radius
(m) 		Screen deploy
time (s) 		Screen hold
time (s) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
M313 821 10.7 9 5 20 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
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Machine guns

12.7 mm M2HB machine gun
Ammunition1 000 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate575 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 70°
Horizontal guidance-60° / 60°
7.62 mm M1919A4 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition2 000 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate500 shots/min
Main articles: M2HB (12.7 mm), M1919A4 (7.62 mm)

The M36 has a roof-mounted M2HB to shoot down low altitude planes. It can also be effectively used against light armoured vehicles to great effect.

In the hull, the radio operator gunner has the ability to use a M1919A4 light machine gun which, other than spotting and against unarmoured vehicles, can't provide much anti-vehicle support.

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 1,000 (200) 575 -10°/+70° ±60°
7.62 mm M1919A4
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Hull 2,000 (250) 500 ±10° ±10°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Fast speed
  • Roof cover to protect from air attacks
  • Fast turret traverse
  • Carries a powerful gun
  • HEATFS and APCBC to fight German heavies and post-war vehicles
  • Browning .50 cal to deal with light vehicles and aircraft

Cons:

  • Slow and lacking in manoeuvrability when stock
  • Most opponents can penetrate your thin armour with autocannons, guns, and bombs
  • Roof armour is 6.5 mm thick, meaning most cannons and rifle-calibre weaponry can knock out the crew
  • HEATFS explodes on fences and bushes
  • Useless APCR shell
  • Stock APBC is mediocre
  • HEATFS sometimes requires extra shots for destroying heavily-armoured targets

History

Main article: History of the M36 GMC

M36s in Japan

Due to the outbreak of the Korean War, the GHQ (General Headquarters of Allied occupation) ordered Japan to re-militarize, while the US also provided plenty of M4A3 (76) W and M24 tanks to help Japan form their armed police force, the NPR (National Police Reserve), so more US forces could fight in Korea while Japan could still maintain reserve manpower for defense. However, the tanks that the NPR received were too big for the average Japanese tanker. In order to replace the obsolete Sherman and Chaffee tanks, Japan received a M36 for research purposes, to help develop a new domestically designed tank, which would eventually become the Type 61.

Multiple M36B2s were also assembled at a depot in Akabane, to be shipped to the Korean peninsula to support South Korean and American forces.

Media

Skins
Videos
The Shooting Range #318 - Metal Beasts section at 00:26 discusses the M36 (Japan).

See also

Related development

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


U.S. Army Ordnance Department/Corps*
Light tanks  T18E2 · M24 (Designed in collaboration with Cadillac)
M3 Stuart  M3 · M3A1 Stuart · M3A1 (USMC)
M5 Stuart  M5A1
Medium tanks  M3 Lee
M4 Sherman  M4 · M4A1 · M4A2 · M4A3 (105) · Calliope
  M4A1 (76) W · M4A2 (76) W · M4A3 (76) W
M26 Pershing  T20 · T25 · M26 · M26E1 · M26 T99
Patton Series  M46 · M46 "Tiger" · M47
Prototypes  T54E1 · T95E1
Heavy tanks  M103
M4 Jumbo  M4A3E2 · Cobra King · M4A3E2 (76) W
M6 Heavy  M6A1 · M6A2E1 · T1E1
M26 Pershing  T26E1-1 · T26E5
Prototypes  T14
T29  T29 · T30 · T34
T-32  T32 · T32E1
Tank destroyers  M3 GMC · M10 GMC · M56
M8 GMC  M8 HMC · M8A1 GMC
M36 GMC  M36 GMC · M36B2
Prototypes  T28 · T95
SPAAGs 
Production  M19 MGMC · M42
Export/Captured  ␗M8 HMC · SU-57
Stuart  Stuart I · Stuart III · ␗M3A3 Stuart · ␗M3A3 (1st PTG) · ▄M3A3 · ▄M3A3 Stuart · ▃Stuart VI (5th CAD) · ␗M5A1
Lee/Grant  ▂M3 Medium · ▃Grant I · Grant I
M4 Sherman  Sherman II · ▄M4A1 · ␗M4A1 (75) W · ▀M4 748 (a) · ▂M4A2 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▅M4A3 (76) W · ▄M4A3E2
  ␗M4A4 · ␗M4A4 (1st PTG) · ▄Sherman V · ▄M4A4 · ▄Sherman I Composito
M26 Pershing  M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1
M47 Patton  mKPz M47 G · ▅M47
M10 GMC  ␗M10 GMC · ▄M10 GMC
M36 GMC  ␗M36 GMC · M36B1 · ▅M36 · ▄M36B2
M19 MGMC  ▅M19A1
M42 MGMC  ▅M42 · ␗M42
  *The Ordnance Department was renamed to the Ordnance Corps after the Army Reorganization Act of 1950.

Japan tank destroyers
Ro-Go Derivatives  Ro-Go Exp.
Chi-Ha Derivatives  Ho-Ni I · Ho-Ni III · Ho-Ro · Chi-Ha LG
Ho-Ri  Ho-Ri Prototype · Ho-Ri Production
Other  Na-To
JGSDF 
SPRG  Type 60 (C)
SPH  Type 75 · Type 99
ATGM  Type 60 ATM
Rocket  Type 75 MLRS
USA  ▅M36

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