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* 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
 
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* 8 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armor
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The Fw-190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for it's rank. It does however have great high speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive maneuver and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior E and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much E to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective maneuver in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, BnZ like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
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The Fw-190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior E and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much E to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, Boom & Zoom like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
  
 
==== Specific enemies worth noting ====
 
==== Specific enemies worth noting ====
The premium Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the Spitfire LF Mk. IX and La-7B-20, both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces Tempests, Fw 190 A-5, Bf 109 G-10 variants, Griffon Spitfires and F4U-1C's. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is really going to give anyone trouble. However these advantages are quite predictable and easily nullified by an attentive opponent.
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The premium Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the Spitfire LF Mk. IX and La-7B-20, both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces Tempests, Fw 190 A-5, Bf 109 G-10 variants, Griffon Spitfires and F4U-1C's. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is really going to give anyone trouble. However, these advantages are quite predictable and easily nullified by an attentive opponent.
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
 
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* Very strong 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons
*Very strong MG151 20mm cannons x4
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* Great roll rate
*Great roll rate.
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* Great energy retention
* Great energy retention.
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* Heavy armament
* Heavy armament.
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* Plenty of ammo
* Plenty of ammo.
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* Well armoured from the front
* Well armoured from the front.
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
 
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* Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency
*Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency.
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* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
*Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds.
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* Manoeuvrability at low speeds is bad
* Manoeuvrability at low speeds is bad.
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* Bad climb rate for a 190
* Bad climb rate for a 190.
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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[[File:Fw_190_A-8(WNr681497).jpg|350px|thumb|right|Captured German Fw 190 repaired and evaluated by US military. (Note the removed guns)]]
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[[File:Fw_190_A-8(WNr681497).jpg|350px|thumb|right|Captured German Fw 190 repaired and evaluated by the US military. (''Note the removed guns'')]]
 
On January 1, 1945, an Fw 190 A-8 (W.Nr. 681497) flown by Corporal Walter Wagner from 4./JG 4 landed at the allied-held field at St Trond, Belgium, after having been hit by flak and being forced to make an emergency landing during Operation Bodenplatte. From here it was transferred to the 404th Fighter Group, USAAF.<ref name="Wikimedia description">US Army Air Forces. File:Fw 190 A-8.Jpg. Wikimedia Commons. 1 Apr. 2010, Accessed: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fw_190_A-8.jpg Website]</ref><ref name="WingsPalette">Ivanov, Grigory. "Focke-Wulf Fw.190A/S Wurger - USA." Wings Palette. N.p., n.d. Web. 03 Mar. 2019.[http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/451/3/0#2 Website]</ref> It was later repainted (as shown here in her original German camouflage)
 
On January 1, 1945, an Fw 190 A-8 (W.Nr. 681497) flown by Corporal Walter Wagner from 4./JG 4 landed at the allied-held field at St Trond, Belgium, after having been hit by flak and being forced to make an emergency landing during Operation Bodenplatte. From here it was transferred to the 404th Fighter Group, USAAF.<ref name="Wikimedia description">US Army Air Forces. File:Fw 190 A-8.Jpg. Wikimedia Commons. 1 Apr. 2010, Accessed: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fw_190_A-8.jpg Website]</ref><ref name="WingsPalette">Ivanov, Grigory. "Focke-Wulf Fw.190A/S Wurger - USA." Wings Palette. N.p., n.d. Web. 03 Mar. 2019.[http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/451/3/0#2 Website]</ref> It was later repainted (as shown here in her original German camouflage)
  

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This page is about the aircraft Fw 190 A-8 (USA). For other uses, see Fw 190 (Family).

Description

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The ▃Fw 190 A-8 is a Rank IV premium American fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB/SB) and 5.0 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.43.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
617 600 10300 24.5 25.0 7.8 10.0 450
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
689 652 10300 21.2 22.8 23.4 14.1 450

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
912 310 N/A ~19 ~19
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 420 < 510 < 510 > 280
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,500 m 1,677 hp 1,971 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,900 m 1,478 hp 1,804 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
  • 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
  • 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Pilot's chair armour
  • 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Fw 190 A-8 (USA) is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon, wing-mounted (250 + 140 rpg each wing = 780 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Usage in battles

The Fw-190 A-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the processes is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior E and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much E to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, Boom & Zoom like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.

Specific enemies worth noting

The premium Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the Spitfire LF Mk. IX and La-7B-20, both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces Tempests, Fw 190 A-5, Bf 109 G-10 variants, Griffon Spitfires and F4U-1C's. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is really going to give anyone trouble. However, these advantages are quite predictable and easily nullified by an attentive opponent.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable Not controllable Controllable Combined Not controllable Controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Offensive 13 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 13 mm MGs
III Wings Repair Engine Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20 mm cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very strong 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons
  • Great roll rate
  • Great energy retention
  • Heavy armament
  • Plenty of ammo
  • Well armoured from the front

Cons:

  • Large, slow turn rate combined with no combat flaps greatly reduces dogfight efficiency
  • Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
  • Manoeuvrability at low speeds is bad
  • Bad climb rate for a 190

History

Captured German Fw 190 repaired and evaluated by the US military. (Note the removed guns)

On January 1, 1945, an Fw 190 A-8 (W.Nr. 681497) flown by Corporal Walter Wagner from 4./JG 4 landed at the allied-held field at St Trond, Belgium, after having been hit by flak and being forced to make an emergency landing during Operation Bodenplatte. From here it was transferred to the 404th Fighter Group, USAAF.[1][2] It was later repainted (as shown here in her original German camouflage)


Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

References

  1. US Army Air Forces. File:Fw 190 A-8.Jpg. Wikimedia Commons. 1 Apr. 2010, Accessed: Website
  2. Ivanov, Grigory. "Focke-Wulf Fw.190A/S Wurger - USA." Wings Palette. N.p., n.d. Web. 03 Mar. 2019.Website

See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
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