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+ | * Despite having all-aspect missiles, the armament still extremely limited to short range, and both R-60MK and R-13M1 has a zero flare resistance | ||
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Revision as of 20:17, 5 April 2023
This page is about the jet fighter MiG-21bis-SAU (Germany). For other versions, see MiG-21 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The ◊MiG-21bis-SAU (NATO Code: Fishbed-N) is a rank VII German jet fighter with a battle rating of 11.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Ground Breaking".
The MiG-21bis-SAU is an export version of the Soviet MiG-21bis for the DDR. It is a second-generation jet fighter with small upgrades over the original MiG-21bis found in the Soviet tree.
General info
Flight performance
The MiG-21bis-SAU has very nice acceleration, especially at lower speeds, this allows for a quick takeoff roll and quick recovery of energy after a dogfight. It also accelerates the MiG up to and exceeds the airframe limits for top speeds at medium to low altitudes regularly. The MiG-21 has a delta wing, which gives it exceptional agility, nose authority, and raw AOA. Pilots of the MiG-21bis-SAU will find the aircraft capable of "pointing" the nose at the enemy aircraft in most situations, and the raw thrust the MiG has will also allow for a degree of stallfighting. However, as a delta-winged design, it will bleed a lot of speed in high AOA manoeuvres, so prolonged dogfights will not be in the MiG-21bis-SAU's favour against more conventional wing designs.
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 13,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 2,177 | 2,142 | 16000 | 37.8 | 38.8 | 191.0 | 179.8 | 750 |
Upgraded | 2,300 | 2,237 | 36.4 | 37.0 | 261.0 | 224.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
X | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | ✓ |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1365 | 700 | N/A | 500 | 450 | ~12 | ~6 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 650 | < 600 | < 950 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
Tumansky R-25-300 | 1 | 6,132 kg | 371 kg/m2 | ||||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
Weight (each) | Type | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | ||
1,140 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 6,852 kg | 7,532 kg | 8,232 kg | 8,532 kg | 10,000 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 10m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 34m fuel | MTOW |
Stationary | 4,040 kgf | 7,344 kgf | 1.07 | 0.98 | 0.89 | 0.86 | 0.73 |
Optimal | 4,040 kgf (0 km/h) |
9,068 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
1.32 | 1.20 | 1.10 | 1.06 | 0.91 |
Survivability and armour
- 60 mm (64°) Bulletproof glass - Central windshield
- 10 mm Steel plate - Behind the pilot's head rest
There is barely any armour in the plane to protect the pilot, fuel tanks, or engine. The little armour it has will not save you from a head-on attack with any enemy unless you are lucky.
Modifications and economy
As with other high-ranking jet aircraft, performance, countermeasures, and improved missiles are imperative for the MiG-21bis-SAU. These will allow pilots of the MiG to both survive longer and deal more damage to the enemy team.
The first modification recommended to unlock is Flares/Chaff, at tier 1. Then Compressor for extra acceleration. Afterwards, gaining both the R-3S and R-3R modifications, plus Airframe will lead up to tier 3 modifications. The R-13M missile is recommended as the first modification for tier 3, followed by Wings Repair and Offensive 23 mm. This will allow tier 4 research, and the R-60MK, an all-aspect IR dogfight missile. Fuselage repair, New Boosters, G-suit, Engine, and Cover will finish off performance mods and give MiG-21bis-SAU pilots the best performance possible in the aircraft. Bombs, Rockets, and EFS can come in any order, as the MiG-21bis-SAU is primarily focused on air-to-air combat.
Armaments
Ballistic Computer | |||
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CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) |
Offensive armament
The MiG-21bis-SAU (Germany) is armed with:
A choice between two presets:
- 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (250 rpg)
- 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon + 64 x countermeasures
The GSh-23L cannon will be familiar to pilots which have already flown the MiG-21MF.
It has relatively low velocity with a high fire-rate, therefore it is recommended for pilots to engage enemies at relatively close range, or enemies that are travelling at a fairly slow speed. Pilots should be mindful that with the ammo capacity of 250 rounds, this gives a trigger time of roughly 4.4 seconds, so trigger discipline will help the aspiring MiG-21bis-SAU pilot. The GSh-23 has high damage output, so even a few rounds will usually cripple or destroy enemy aircraft.
Suspended armament
The MiG-21bis-SAU (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
- Without load
- 2 x R-13M1 missiles
- 4 x R-3S missiles
- 4 x R-3R missiles
- 4 x R-13M1 missiles
- 4 x R-60MK missiles
- 6 x R-60MK missiles
- 64 x S-5K rockets
- 64 x S-5K rockets
- 4 x S-24 rockets
- 8 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (800 kg total)
- 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (500 kg total)
- 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
- 2 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
The MiG-21bis-SAU can be outfitted with a variety of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons. The R-3S and R-3R missiles are very basic missiles, both pulling a maximum of 10Gs and with very limited range. The R-3S is the IR version, while the R-3R is the SARH (Radar) version. The R-3S has very a negligible use case, as the MiG-21Bis-SAU comes with two R-13M stock. It can be used if the pilot simply wishes for two extra missiles however. The R-3R is more useful for pilots that wish to have the capability to engage enemy air targets at a further range headon, though compared to other SARH missiles of the rank, such as the R-24R or AIM-7F, it lacks the potency to reliably dispatch manoeuvring targets. The next missile carried is the R-13M1, which is the missile carried stock and one of the two recommended for use. It has greater range than the R-60MK, especially at high altitude, though it is a less manoeuvrable missile. The R-60MK is the final missile carried by the MiG-21bis-SAU. It is a highly manoeuvrable, all aspect missile perfect for use in close in dogfights. It lacks the range of contemporary missiles such as the AIM-9G or the previously mentioned R-13M1, however it is highly manoeuvrable and will begin quickly pulling off the rail, hitting most targets within around a 2 km area in front of the aircraft. The recommended loadout for most missions will be either 6 of the R-60MK, or two R-13M and 4 R-60MK using the custom loadout feature to give a mix of ranged weapons and more manoeuvrable, dogfight missiles.
Although the primary focus of the MiG-21bis-SAU is for air combat, it is also able to carry a limited selection of anti-ground ordnance. This includes a selection of 100, 250, and 500 kg bombs, along with the ZB-500 Incendiary bombs. As for rockets, it carries the S-5K and S-24 rockets. If pilots wish to use the MiG-21bis-SAU for ground strike, the S-24 rockets are a good choice as the plane also has CCIP for the rockets.
Custom loadout options
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | ||
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100 kg OFAB-100 bombs | 4 | 4 | |||
250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs | 1 | 1 | |||
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs | 1 | 1 | |||
ZB-500 incendiary bombs | 1 | 1 | |||
S-5K rockets | 16 | 16, 32 | 16, 32 | 16 | |
S-24 rockets | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
R-3R missiles | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
R-3S missiles | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
R-13M1 missiles | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
R-60MK missiles | 1, 2 | 1 | 1 | 1, 2 | |
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 570 kg |
Usage in battles
The MiG-21bis-SAU will feel similar to the preceding MiG-21MF to its pilots, with even quicker acceleration and higher top speed. When playing the MiG-21bis-SAU, it is recommended to keep in mind some of the strengths and weaknesses of the aircraft. As a delta-winged design, similar to the Mirage family or Draken, the MiG-21bis can pull exceptionally hard, and can effectively "point" the nose wherever its pilot wishes. On the other hand, whilst doing so, a lot of speed is lost and sustained turning will eventually rob the MiG of the energy it had going into a fight. Therefore going into sustained dogfights is not recommended, especially against planes such as the F-5, MiG-23/27, or F-14 Tomcat. All of these planes will have much better energy retention in a sustained turn than the MiG-21bis-SAU, and in a sustained turn will eventually simply have a decisive energy advantage over the MiG. Therefore it is recommended to use the MiG-21s ability to pull inside of enemy aircraft to attempt to fire on the enemy aircraft. If unable to do so, the MiG-21bis should attempt to use the excellent acceleration to reset the fight and try again.
When on the defensive many of the same rules apply. it is recommended to run either flares or mixed countermeasures depending on playstyle. Chaff will help decoy radar-homing missiles such as the AIM-7 or AIM-54, but if pilots prefers flying low, terrain can serve that purpose instead and the extra flares can definitely be useful with standard countermeasures. As previously stated, delta wings bleed a lot of energy while turning. This can be very useful when defending against enemies with better energy retention, as a good MiG-21bis-SAU pilot can use the speed bled by manoeuvres to cause the enemy aircraft to overshoot, and then attempt to use the gun or missiles to take out the enemy. This is the preferred way to go defensive in the MiG-21bis-SAU, as oftentimes most of the enemy aircraft have better energy retention and are usually relatively easy to force an overshoot against.
The one area the MiG-21bis-SAU has an issue with is in BVR (beyond-visual-range) combat. The only radar missile the plane receives is the R-3R, which pales in comparison to the R-24R or AIM-7 that are now very common in high rank air matches. Attempting to challenge planes such as the MiG-23MLD or F-14A at long range and high altitude is not recommended, the MiG-21bis-SAU excels in close range combat and every attempt by pilots should be made to close the range to enemies, and then using the arsenal of shorter ranged, but still highly potent weapons to finish off enemy aircraft.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Stunning acceleration
- Very good climb rate
- Good high speed manoeuvrability and can make turns at a high angle of attack
- Can wield 6 x R-60MKs
- GSh-23L cannon has 250 rounds (50 more than the MiG-21MF)
- Access to countermeasures and airbrakes
Cons:
- Bleeds speed very quickly
- Bad low speed manoeuvrability
- Rudder lock above 700 km/h can be frustrating when trying to get guns on target
- Doesn't respond well to wing damage
- Can overspeed easily at sea level due to tremendous acceleration and has a low top speed vs any contemporary
- Low muzzle velocity for the GSh-23L cannon.
- Despite having all-aspect missiles, the armament still extremely limited to short range, and both R-60MK and R-13M1 has a zero flare resistance
- Primitive radar and almost useless even in spotting targets
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See also
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External links
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Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau (Микоя́н и Гуре́вич Опытное конструкторское бюро) | |
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I-225 | |
Jet fighters | MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) |
MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh | |
MiG-17 | |
MiG-19PT | |
MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis | |
MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD | |
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Export/Licensed | ␗MiG-9 · ␗MiG-9 (l) |
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MiG-17AS · ◔MiG-17PF · J-4* · Shenyang F-5* | |
◊MiG-19S · J-6A* | |
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◔MiG-29 · ◊MiG-29 · ◄MiG-29G | |
*Licensed and domesticated with Chinese designations. | |
**Unlicensed, reverse-engineered and domesticated with Chinese designations. | |
See Also | Shenyang · Chengdu |
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Luftwaffe | |
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Ho 229 | Ho 229 V3 |
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◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" | |
◊MiG-29 | |
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◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4 | |
◊IL-28 | |
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