Ho 229 V3

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Ho 229 V3
General characteristics
1 personCrew
7.5 tTake-off weight
5.36 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
12000 mCeiling
2 х Junkers Jumo 004DEngine
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
980 km/hStructural
450 km/hGear
Offensive armament
2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannonWeapon 1
340 roundsAmmunition
380 shots/minFire rate
86000 Rp icon.pngResearch
350000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png16630 / 21036/7770 / 9829/3050 / 3858Repair
100000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
350000 Sl icon.pngExperts
1500 Ge icon.pngAces
190 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
410 % Sl icon.png320 % Sl icon.png130 % Sl icon.png


GarageImage Ho229V3.jpg

The Ho 229 V3 is a rank V German jet fighter with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB/RB) and 7.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.43.

The Ho 229 V3 is the first jet in the "Zerstörer" tech tree of the Luftwaffe and currently comes before the G.91 R/3. Ironically, it goes against much of the doctrine set by the previous planes, favouring speed and manoeuvrability over armament and durability.

Something that will immediately stand out with the Ho 229 V3 is how incredibly manoeuvrable it is compared to most other jet fighters. The Ho 229 V3 can almost quite literally turn on a dime and can even in some circumstances out-turn late super props such as the P-51H if manoeuvred correctly. However, if its manoeuvrability is used to its full extent, it also causes the plane to bleed speed at a crippling rate, making a sustained turn fight impossible to win. As such, it is advised to use the Ho 229 V3 as a Boom & Zoom fighter in order to maintain airspeed and altitude. Remember that jet engines' efficiency is directly proportional to the IAS, due to the increased air intake, meaning the Ho 229 V3 will be accelerating very slowly between 0-500 km/h, but beyond will be able to outrun any propeller-driven aircraft.

General info

Flight performance

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 8,000 m)
Max altitude
Turn time
Rate of climb
Take-off run
Stock 871 847 12000 24.8 25.4 17.0 16.1 850
Upgraded 947 910 23.7 24.0 25.3 21.0


Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
980 450 580 580 380 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 570 < 600 < 420 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Junkers Jumo 004D 2 4,800 kg 188 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight (each) Type 17m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 57m fuel
750 kg Axial-flow turbojet 5,541 kg 5,667 kg 6,088 kg 6,720 kg 7,255 kg 7,500 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 17m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 45m fuel 57m fuel MTOW
Stationary 1,050 kgf N/A 0.38 0.37 0.34 0.31 0.29 0.28
Optimal 1,050 kgf
(0 km/h)
N/A 0.38 0.37 0.34 0.31 0.29 0.28

Survivability and armour

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.


Offensive armament

Main article: MK 103 (30 mm)

The Ho 229 V3 is armed with:

  • 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannons, wing-mounted (170 rpg = 340 total)


  • Default: HE-T(M) - HE(M) - IT; okay against planes.
  • Air targets: HE-T(M) - HE(M) - HE(M) - IT; each Minengeschoß (mine-shell) has the same HE power as a 37 mm round, wonderful against anything that flies and light ground targets.
  • Armored targets: HVAP-T - I - I - AP-I; the armoured target belt is different for the Ho 229 V3, compared to all other Mk 103 armed aircraft, and is only a 1/4 as effective, due to the belt being filled with incendiary shells.
  • Stealth: AP-I; difficult to use; cannot destroy most tanks nor pillboxes, lacks the destructive force of HE shells against planes.

Usage in battles

Horten 229 Version 3 with its wings attached by the USAF in 1950.

The Horten 229 flying wing is a dogfighter, heavy-fighter, or even an attacker.

Its single wing design allows for amazing maneuverability despite its weight of up to 8 tonnes, when equipped with full fuel load. This is, however, the Horten's literal downfall; the weight. Its acceleration is awful, even for jets. But the energy retention is great and climb acceptable. With that in mind rule number one of jet battle comes into play: "Do not turn fight!" The 229 will tempt anyone though. The low wing loading for a jet and even some piston planes allows for tight turning circles. Being heavy also allows to keep that velocity well in the initial turns, but with the inability to regain that speed afterwards... leads to a flaming wreck thanks to an opportunistic enemy. The classic dogfight is thus only for emergency situations!

As a fighter, stick with Boom & Zoom, in which the Ho 229's heavy weight is of assistance in zoom climbs. However, it will also dampen the Horten's starting acceleration in a dive, making out diving an enemy difficult. The bad roll rate makes it hard to get some shots on target, But watch out! Don't pull too hard on the elevator to get that shot, or the Horten will lose much speed (which cannot be regained quickly) or rarely, lose a wing.

The heavy fighter role equals the fighter one in every aspect, just that the targets are usually bombers. Stay fast, and try to get shots off in head-ons, or in slight diving turns from the bomber's six (tail), to make it difficult for the defensive gunners to hit the Ho 229.

The attacker role is a dangerous one. The Ho 229 will have to fly slow, in order to have time to properly aim, hit & evade trees. While all of these aren't difficult in the Horten 229 V3, it leaves the plane in a dangerous spot: low and without speed. Both are vital though for the sluggish plane. In this role, be sure to have good escort fighters, as enemies can come at any time in jet combat.

Once the Horten is fully upgraded, or at least the performance parts are, one detail to notice is that the wings won't rip so easily like before, but the Ho 229 still has to turn cautiously, because it is still a wooden plane after all.

Perhaps the most dangerous enemy of the Horten 229 is the F-84 Thunderjet. Since the Thunderjet gets an air spawn it already has all the energy it needs to get around the map quickly. There are occasions when players spawn in late, only to be strafed by an F-84 Thunderjet on the runway. The Ho-229 is decent at accelerating once up to about 550 Km/H, past that point, the Ho 229 becomes a V2 rocket in terms of acceleration until about ~750-800 Km/H, then there will be a hard time accelerating again.


Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 30 mm
II Compressor Airframe
III Wings repair New 30 mm cannons
IV Engine Cover

Given the Horten's weight, the acceleration is an issue on the stock plane. Go for ammunition, engine and compressor upgrades first.

After that, any upgrade is equally good. Weapon upgrades can wait, as the Mk 103 is the best gun in-game, with high accuracy and long bursts stock. The belts also shouldn't be a priority unless using the Ho 229 as an attacker. In that case, the "Armored targets" belt is very useful against tanks & light pillboxes.

Pros and cons


  • Excellent armament, MK 103 is one of the best guns in the game
  • Great ammunition supply with 170 rounds per gun
  • Low wing loading, incredibly good at turning when flown at medium speeds (400-600 km/h)
  • Good energy retention if not maneuvered too harshly
  • Versatile range of ammunition belt options proves suitable for fighter or attacker role
  • Outruns piston-engine aircraft and all jets Allied jets, except for the F-84 Thunderjet when up-tiered
  • Thin body makes it difficult for enemies to hit it when chasing it from behind
  • Low stall speed of 165 km/h
  • Fast when diving if flown at medium to high speeds before committing to a dive
  • Super-effective air brake, can bleed airspeed efficiently
  • Extremely sensitive ailerons


  • Acceleration is slow- even its initial acceleration in a dive
  • Only 1/4 of its armored target belt is comprised of HVAP-T shells, unlike other MK 103 equipped aircraft, which have only HVAP-T shells
  • Big target to hit from the top or bottom, like in a turn
  • Rate of climb is worse than late World War 2 and post-war piston engine aircraft
  • Rips wings when applying full elevator at above 520 km/h IAS
  • Poor Rudder Authority - It yaws using independently controlled air brakes near the wingtips
  • Poor Roll Rate - Significantly hinders the ability to counter defensive scissors
  • Slow fire rate results in occasional misses when sweeping quickly behind enemies if aiming at wings, which have a thin profile
  • Troublesome to land due to incredible lift, particularly with joystick control: need to slow down lower than many prop landing speeds
  • Loses speed quickly in elevator turns
  • Gets matched against enemy jets that have superior performance


The Ho 229 had three prototypes before the facility was overrun.

Pilot with Draeger suit in Ho 229
  1. V1 was a glider to test the design.
  2. V2 was a down-scaled prototype fitted with the Jumo 004B.
  3. V3 was a testbed for the serial production, it was however not completely finished when the US Army arrived.

Originally the V3 was intended to have the Jumo 004C jets, these weren't ready though and the Me 262A's 004B was installed. The final production version would have had the ability to load bombs, switch the main armament to four Mk 108 and the pilots were to be equipped with the Draeger pressure suit (G-Suit).

Twitter announcement by Downed Warbirds of the Smithsonian Institution's restoration.

In January 2015, the Smithonian Institution initiated the restoration of the V3 prototype for static display, despite its desolate state. The flying wing is currently housed in the Mary Baker Engen Restoration Hangar at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, Virginia.



See also

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Jet Fighters  Ho 229 V3

Germany jet aircraft
Ar 234  Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3
He 162  He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2
Ho 229  Ho 229 V3
Me 163  Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0
Me 262  Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a · Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b
USA  CL-13A Mk 5 · CL-13B Mk.6 · ▀F-86K · F-104G
USSR  ▀MiG-15bis · ▀MiG-19S · ▀MiG-21MF · ▀IL-28
Britain  Sea Hawk Mk.100
Italy  ▀G.91 R/3 · ▀G.91 R/4