Scimitar F Mk.1

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RANK 5 SWEDEN
SAAB J-29D PACK
Scimitar F Mk.1
scimitar_f1.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
8.7/8.7/8.7BR
1 personCrew
19.7 tTake-off weight
20.84 kg/sBurst mass
Flight characteristics
15 200 mCeiling
2 х Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.202Engine
Type
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
1322 km/hStructural
583.3 km/hGear
Offensive armament
4 x 30 mm ADEN cannonWeapon 1
640 roundsAmmunition
1 200 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
4 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bombSetup 1
24 x AP Mk II rocketsSetup 2
2 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bomb
12 x AP Mk II rockets
Setup 3
4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missilesSetup 4
4 x AGM-12B Bullpup rocketsSetup 5
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x AGM-12B Bullpup rockets
Setup 6
2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
2 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 7
Economy
380 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
990 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png44 460 / 61 043/8 890 / 12 205/2 140 / 2 938Repair
280 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
990 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
2 200 Ge icon.pngAces
214 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
470 % Sl icon.png220 % Sl icon.png150 % Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage Scimitar F Mk.1.jpg


The Scimitar F Mk.1 is a rank VI British jet fighter with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

General info

Flight performance

Full left yaw at 1000 kph

The Scimitar F.1 is a relatively large and heavy aircraft, but it is still extremely capable because of its impressive engines. The Scimitar's two Rolls-Royce Avon 202 engines put out 4,650 kgf of thrust each, giving the Scimitar its fantastic climb rate of over 100 m/s. This outclasses similarly placed jets known for their climb rate (such as the MiG-15) by almost 2 times, and it's capable of gaining speed in a 45° climb. The impressive amount of power means that, assuming you aren't uptiered to 9.7, you will always be the first off the airfield and into combat. The Scimitar has a max speed of just over 1,160 km/h or mach 0.95 on the deck, enough to outrun anything at its BR, and even some missiles too.

The Scimitar turns surprisingly well for its size and weight, thanks to its all-flying tail, and large control surfaces. It will be able to hold its own in a turnfight with most, and can quickly accelerate out of trouble if needed. You should not be turning for too long, as the Scimitar still loses its energy quite quickly in a full turn.

However, we now come to the biggest con of the Scimitar: its rudder. The rudder will lock up gradually until about 700 km/h where it will lose 99% of its effect, making it unusable, and trying to turn or aim conventionally is impossible, often leading to the plane wobbling itself into an uncontrollable flatspin that you can't escape, because you have no rudder control. It is recommended because of this that you only engage low energy targets and use the element of surprise so they cannot evade. The Scimitar does get 4 x AIM-9B missiles, and these can be used on targets that use your lack of a rudder against you.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,156 1,152 15 200 31.4 32.2 84.3 78.3 1,000
Upgraded 1,170 1,163 29.4 30.0 122.4 102.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1322 583.3 650 637 447 ~11 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 620 < 450 < 620 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Rolls-Royce Avon Mk.202 2 11,722 kg 349 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 6m fuel 20m fuel 22m fuel
1,175 kg Axial-flow turbojet 12,817 kg 15,341 kg 15,702 kg 19,731 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 6m fuel 20m fuel 22m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,652 kgf N/A 0.73 0.61 0.59 0.47
Optimal 4,855 kgf
(1,100 km/h)
N/A 0.76 0.63 0.62 0.49

Survivability and armour

The Scimitar has one glass 50 mm plate in front of the pilot, and one 12.7 mm steel plate behind the pilot. It has very low survivability because any wing damage will lead to a flatspin, due to its lack of rudder control.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: ADEN (30 mm)

The Scimitar F Mk.1 is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm ADEN cannons, chin-mounted (160 rpg = 640 total)

Suspended armament

The Scimitar F Mk.1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 1,000 lb M.C. 1,000 lb Mk.I bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 24 x AP Mk II rockets
  • 2 x 1,000 lb M.C. 1,000 lb Mk.I bombs + 12 x AP Mk II rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 4 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles
  • 2 x AGM-12B Bullpup missiles + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x 1,000 lb M.C. 1,000 lb Mk.I bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

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Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 30 mm 60 lb S.A.P. Mark I
II New boosters Compressor Airframe 1000 LB MC
III Wings repair Engine New 30 mm cannons AGM-12B Bullpup
IV G-suit Cover AIM-9B

The poor rudder of the Scimitar makes getting two modifications a high priority. The New boosters modification provides a noticeable improvement to the rudder control of the Scimitar and is your absolute top priority, as any rudder improvement you can get will make getting guns on target, and flying the aircraft in general, more bearable. Even with the New boosters modification getting guns on target can still be rather hard; therefore the next priority is AIM-9B missiles as they give you another way to kill enemy aircraft, which is less reliant on rudder control. Even stock the Scimitar exhibits very impressive flight performance for it's battle rating, this means flight performance upgrades (with the exception of New boosters) are not as important as on other jets. Starting at tier one you will want to unlock the rockets (to start progressing towards AIM-9Bs), then at tier two unlock the New boosters modification and then the bombs. At tier three do your choice of flight performance modification followed by the Bullpups (unless you want the bullpups for Tank RB, in which case get them first); finally get the AIM-9Bs at tier 4. From here on you can unlock the remaining modifications according to user preference.

If you find unlocking modifications difficult due to the lack of rudder control then the stock ADEN belts are capable of killing light pillboxes / light ranks (and medium tanks with some more difficulty), allowing you to get a decent amount of RP per game through ground attack. The suspended armaments can also be used for ground attack or base bombing.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Possibly the fastest subsonic jet in the game, will reach 1,161 km/h (Mach 0.95) in level flight at sea level
  • Has very good acceleration
  • Has four ADEN cannons, which are some of the best guns in the game
  • Lots of cannon ammo
  • Has good ground attack capability and is currently the only British jet with air-to-ground missiles
  • Gets four air-to-air missiles (AIM-9B)
  • It is practically impossible to break the wings off through over-speed as the aircraft stops accelerating due to drag before reaching the very high wing breaking speed
  • It is very hard to break the wings by pulling positive Gs, generally wing breakage in the Scimitar only occurs when pulling negative Gs
  • Capable of landing on carriers

Cons:

  • Cannot make good use of its speed as rudder severely locks up at even moderately high speeds
  • Combination of poor rudder and gun placement can make getting guns on target extremely hard
  • Does not turn very well
  • Asymmetric wing damage is liable to cause a non-recoverable flat spin

History

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Media

The Shooting Range #205 - Metal Beasts section at 00:28 discusses the Scimitar F Mk.1.

See also

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External links


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