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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced into the game in [[Update 1.37]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Russian fighter {{Battle-rating}}. This aircraft was introduced into the game in [[Update 1.37]].
  
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The I-185 M-82 is most characteristic of a Russian version of a Fw 190, as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all trades role. Like most Russian fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance; however, it does have a higher usable ceiling than that of, say, the Yaks.
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The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' is most characteristic of a Russian version of an Fw 190, as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all-trades role. Like most Russian fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance; however, it does have a higher usable ceiling than that of, say, the Yaks.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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* 8 mm Steel - Armor plating behind pilot seat
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* 8 mm Steel - Armor plating behind the pilot seat
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* No armored glass
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* No armoured glass
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* Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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* Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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* More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage
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* More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
 
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Climb to 4 - 5000 m and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Bf 109 G/F or Spitfires Mk Vc/F Mk 9s.
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Climb to 4 - 5,000 m and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Bf 109 G/F or Spitfires Mk Vc/F Mk 9s.
  
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'''<u>DO NOT EVER</u>''' think about turn-fighting, it will only end tragically. If desperate, try rolling scissors, as it can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique '''leading-edge slats''' give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB.  
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The '''{{PAGENAME}}''' excels at Boom & Zoom, however, is extremely lacking when it comes to turn-fighting, as it will usually end tragically. If desperate, try rolling scissors, as it can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique '''leading-edge slats''' give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB.  
 
Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely accurate due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVAKs tend to spark quite a LOT, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes.
 
Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely accurate due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVAKs tend to spark quite a LOT, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes.
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Make sure to attack from an angle when using the Shvaks; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 0.4 to 0.5km.
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Make sure to attack from an angle when using the ShVAKs; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 0.4 to 0.5km.
  
 
====Specific enemies worth noting====
 
====Specific enemies worth noting====
 
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Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will out turn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile, but packs a far bigger punch. The German minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods.
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Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will out turn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile but packs a far bigger punch. The German minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods.
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If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you, and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, quite often at the same time.
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If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, quite often at the same time.
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Good armament.
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* Good armament
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* All armaments are located in nose.
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* All armaments are located in the nose
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* Good roll rate.
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* Good roll rate
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* Great climb rate and acceleration when maxed.
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* Great climb rate and acceleration when maxed
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* Relatively small- low profile.
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* Relatively small- low profile
 
* Good Boom & Zoom capability
 
* Good Boom & Zoom capability
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* Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line.
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* Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line
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* Leading edge slats provide extra lift in maneuvers.
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* Leading edge slats provide extra lift in manoeuvres
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Cannons all have different ammo amounts.
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* Cannons all have different ammo amounts
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* Lack of cannon spread.
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* Lack of cannon spread
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* Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from cannons with specially the German and American ones) can tear off a wing (or the tail).
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* Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from cannons with especially the German and American ones) can tear off a wing (or the tail)
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* Poor turn rate.
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* Poor turn rate
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* Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread.
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* Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread
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* Mediocre stock belts, and terrible upgraded belts.
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* Mediocre stock belts and terrible upgraded belts.
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* Mediocre to bad cockpit visibility.
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* Is only "decent" under ~4.5 km altitude
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* Is only "decent" under ~4.5 km altitude.
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 12:24, 8 April 2019

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I-185 (M-82)
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I-185 (M-82)
USSR flag.png USSR
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
4.0 3.7 3.7
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Msg-info.png This page is about the aircraft I-185 (M-82). For the version powered by a M-71 engine, see I-185 (M-71)

Description

The I-185 (M-82) in the garage


The I-185 (M-82) is a Rank III Russian fighter with a battle rating of 4.0 (AB) and 3.7 (RB/SB). This aircraft was introduced into the game in Update 1.37.

The I-185 (M-82) is most characteristic of a Russian version of an Fw 190, as its roll rate, climb rate, and dive acceleration are closely tailored to be used with Boom & Zoom. However, like many of the Yaks, it has no "great" distinguishing qualities and, although it is a great energy fighter, leans towards more of a jack-of-all-trades role. Like most Russian fighters, it has relatively poor high-altitude performance; however, it does have a higher usable ceiling than that of, say, the Yaks.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,470 m) 		Max altitude
(meters) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
583  ? 10,450 23.5  ??.? 12.3  ??.? 358
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 6,470 m) 		Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second) 		Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 10,450  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 358

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h) 		Gear limit
(km/h) 		Combat flap
(km/h) 		Max Static G
+ -
800 350 380 ~26 ~13
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h) 		Rudder
(km/h) 		Elevators
(km/h) 		Radiator
(km/h)
< 440 < 520 < 520 > 270
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
1,000 m 1,400 hp 1,722 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,500 m 1,180 hp 1,650 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 8 mm Steel - Armor plating behind the pilot seat
  • No armoured glass
  • Critical components located in front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: ShVAK (20 mm)

The I-185 (M-82) is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, top nose mount (250 rounds)
  • 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, right side nose mount (170 rounds)
  • 1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon, left side nose mount (140 rounds)

Suspended armament

Main articles: FAB-100 (100 kg), FAB-250M43 (250 kg), RS-82, RBS-82

The I-185 (M-82) can outfit external ordinance in the following options:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (200 kg total)
  • 4 x 100 kg FAB-100 bombs (400 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M43 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 8 x 82 mm RS-82 rockets
  • 8 x 82 mm RBS-82 rockets

Usage in the battles

Climb to 4 - 5,000 m and attempt to eliminate most opposition; avoid superior enemies such as the Bf 109 G/F or Spitfires Mk Vc/F Mk 9s.

The I-185 (M-82) excels at Boom & Zoom, however, is extremely lacking when it comes to turn-fighting, as it will usually end tragically. If desperate, try rolling scissors, as it can be extremely useful due to the high roll rate, and the unique leading-edge slats give extra lift at low speeds. The visibility in the I-185 is relatively poor due to the low lying cockpit and "blind back"; therefore, always watch your tail in SB. Due to the high fire rate, you should always watch your ammo count. As a matter of fact, it is recommended to activate the "show ammo count" option in the "Interface" tab in the WT options, no matter what your plane. The nose-mounted armament can be extremely accurate due to the lack of spread. However, this can be a disadvantage as the lack of spread can mean a lack of hits for more inexperienced players in War Thunder. Additionally, the ShVAKs tend to spark quite a LOT, so players should always aim for the weakest parts of all planes. Make sure to attack from an angle when using the ShVAKs; attack from a close range as well. The armament is most effective at about 0.4 to 0.5km.

Specific enemies worth noting

Two of the most common enemies of the I-185 are the Bf 109 F and Fw 190 A. The Bf 109 will out turn you, as might the Fw 190 A-1. The more heavily armed A-4 is less agile but packs a far bigger punch. The German minengeschoß shells will easily destroy you, making the relatively lightly armed Bf 109 a huge threat already, regardless of the optional gun pods. If you are unlucky, however, you might bump into the Fw 190 A-5 and Bf 109 G-2. The A-5 should be treated similarly to the A-4. Its clear weaknesses can be exploited easily. The Bf 109 G-2 is much faster than you, climbs better and is more agile. Even if it carries gun pods, which are more effective than the ones the F-4 has, it still hugely outperforms you and has roughly the same armament, once again sporting the fearsome minengeschoß. Stay away from those. They easily rip your wings off, knock out your pilot, or set you on fire, quite often at the same time.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Not controllable Separate Not controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator DZ-40
II Compressor Airframe DER-25
III Wing Repair Engine RO-82 Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20 mm Cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good armament
  • All armaments are located in the nose
  • Good roll rate
  • Great climb rate and acceleration when maxed
  • Relatively small- low profile
  • Good Boom & Zoom capability
  • Fairly good elevator when compared to Fw 190 line
  • Leading edge slats provide extra lift in manoeuvres

Cons:

  • Cannons all have different ammo amounts
  • Lack of cannon spread
  • Poor plane durability - a few hits (especially from cannons with especially the German and American ones) can tear off a wing (or the tail)
  • Poor turn rate
  • Nose mounted armament can be hard to use for beginners due to the lack of spread
  • Mediocre stock belts and terrible upgraded belts.
  • Is only "decent" under ~4.5 km altitude

History

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Media

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Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

Sources

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • page on aircraft encyclopedia;
  • other literature.


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