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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The ''' | + | The original F-86D was developed as a bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) [[FFAR Mighty Mouse|Mighty Mouse]] folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953, Italy approached North American Aviation in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the '''F-86K''', a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter. France operated a total of 62 F-86Ks, built between 1956 and 1957 by Fiat, working as all-weather interceptors while the [[Mirage III (Family)|Mirage III]] was being developed. |
− | + | It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]]. Developed as an interceptor, the F-86K is a relatively sluggish aircraft. It has a good top speed and climb rate for its BR thanks to the new engine, which features an afterburner. However this comes at the cost of manoeuvrability and acceleration, so, the F-86K is not a classic dogfighter like the other Sabres, instead it is more useful at combat in high altitude, intercepting enemy bombers and using its AIM-9Bs against slow enemies from above. In simulator battles, it is especially useful, as it features a powerful radar and a powerful engine, useful for detecting aircraft at very high altitudes like bombers and other interceptors. Unfortunately, its radar lacks BVR or ACM mode, so it is impossible to lock onto other aircraft. | |
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− | The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and | + | The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight. |
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==== Details ==== | ==== Details ==== | ||
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ||
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− | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || | + | | 1,187 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 593 || 556 || 370 || ~8 || ~4 |
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ||
− | ! colspan=" | + | ! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) |
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! Condition || 100% || WEP | ! Condition || 100% || WEP | ||
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− | The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of | + | The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel. |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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− | The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par | + | The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from around .8 km away, then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing into the enemy and increasing your chance of survival. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F.6s which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles. |
===Radars=== | ===Radars=== | ||
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* Good top speed | * Good top speed | ||
− | * Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 | + | * Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h) |
* Good acceleration with afterburner | * Good acceleration with afterburner | ||
− | * Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers) | + | * Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers) |
* High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots | * High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots | ||
* Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinders | * Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinders | ||
− | * Brake chute | + | * Brake chute |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Subsonic | * Subsonic | ||
* Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats | * Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats | ||
− | * Hard compression at high speed (>900 | + | * Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis |
* Can easily rip wings with strong input | * Can easily rip wings with strong input | ||
* Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel | * Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel | ||
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''- From [[wt:en/news/6176-development-f-86k-sabre-dog-the-grand-tourist-en|Devblog]]'' | ''- From [[wt:en/news/6176-development-f-86k-sabre-dog-the-grand-tourist-en|Devblog]]'' | ||
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+ | |'''Fun Fact''': The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project. | ||
+ | | War Thunder Dev Blog | ||
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
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;Skins | ;Skins | ||
− | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/? | + | |
+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=f-86k_late Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
;Images | ;Images | ||
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Image:F-86k_img1.jpg| | Image:F-86k_img1.jpg| | ||
Image:F-86k_img2.jpg| | Image:F-86k_img2.jpg| | ||
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;Related development | ;Related development | ||
− | * Canadair [[F-86 (Family)|Sabre]] ( | + | * Canadair [[F-86 (Family)|Sabre]] (Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL") |
* North American [[F-86 (Family)|F-86A/F]] | * North American [[F-86 (Family)|F-86A/F]] | ||
* North American [[F-100D|F-100]] Super Sabre | * North American [[F-100D|F-100]] Super Sabre | ||
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;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era | ;Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era | ||
− | + | * Grumman [[F9F-8|F9F]] Cougar | |
− | * Grumman [[F9F-8| | ||
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* Lavochkin [[La-15]] | * Lavochkin [[La-15]] | ||
* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]] | * Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-15]] | ||
* Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-17]] | * Mikoyan-Gurevich [[MiG-17]] | ||
+ | * Hawker [[Hunter F.1|Hunter]] | ||
+ | * Dassault [[Super Mystere B2|Super Mystère]] | ||
* Saab [[J29D|J29]] Tunnan | * Saab [[J29D|J29]] Tunnan | ||
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Latest revision as of 22:55, 15 November 2024
This page is about the jet fighter F-86K (France). For other versions, see F-86 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The original F-86D was developed as a bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) Mighty Mouse folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953, Italy approached North American Aviation in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the F-86K, a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter. France operated a total of 62 F-86Ks, built between 1956 and 1957 by Fiat, working as all-weather interceptors while the Mirage III was being developed.
It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy". Developed as an interceptor, the F-86K is a relatively sluggish aircraft. It has a good top speed and climb rate for its BR thanks to the new engine, which features an afterburner. However this comes at the cost of manoeuvrability and acceleration, so, the F-86K is not a classic dogfighter like the other Sabres, instead it is more useful at combat in high altitude, intercepting enemy bombers and using its AIM-9Bs against slow enemies from above. In simulator battles, it is especially useful, as it features a powerful radar and a powerful engine, useful for detecting aircraft at very high altitudes like bombers and other interceptors. Unfortunately, its radar lacks BVR or ACM mode, so it is impossible to lock onto other aircraft.
General info
Flight performance
The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 1,103 | 1,097 | 15500 | 27.4 | 28.3 | 42.7 | 37.1 | 1,000 |
Upgraded | 1,121 | 1,111 | 26.6 | 27.0 | 73.1 | 56.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | ✓ |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1,187 | 350 | 593 | 556 | 370 | ~8 | ~4 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 850 | < 600 | < 660 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
General Electric J47-GE-17B | 1 | 6,532 kg | 286 kg/m2 | ||||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | |||||
Weight (each) | Type | 13m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 46m fuel | ||
1,150 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 7,034 kg | 7,313 kg | 7,703 kg | 8,338 kg | 9,530 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 13m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 46m fuel | MTOW |
Stationary | 2,294 kgf | 3,158 kgf | 0.45 | 0.43 | 0.41 | 0.38 | 0.33 |
Optimal | 2,294 kgf (0 km/h) |
3,861 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
0.55 | 0.53 | 0.50 | 0.46 | 0.41 |
Survivability and armour
The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Offensive armament
The F-86K (France) is armed with:
- 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)
Suspended armament
The F-86K (France) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
Usage in battles
The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from around .8 km away, then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing into the enemy and increasing your chance of survival. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F.6s which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles.
Radars
The F-86K is equipped with an AN/APS-21 search radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
AN/APS-21 - Target Detection Radar | |||
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Maximum Detection Range |
Guaranteed Detection Range |
Max Azimuth Scan Angle |
Max Elevation Scan Angle |
45,000 m | 28,000 m | ±85° | ±16° |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good top speed
- Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h)
- Good acceleration with afterburner
- Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers)
- High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots
- Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinders
- Brake chute
Cons:
- Subsonic
- Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats
- Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis
- Can easily rip wings with strong input
- Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel
- Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
- No bombs or rockets
History
In March 1949, the North American company launched the development of a new jet interceptor, based on the existing F-86 Sabre, as part of a private venture. The new design was the first interceptor developed to be operated by a single crew member and utilized unguided rockets in combination with a complex fire control system, rather than conventional guns, in order to destroy its target. Already by April, the project had received official endorsement from high-ranking military officials and development of a production version began in parallel.
While a production contract was signed in October, the first prototype, designated YF-95, conducted its maiden flight in December 1949. In the early '50s, Soviet nuclear testing and the subsequent start of the Korean conflict led to an accelerated development of the YF-95. Despite this, problems during development caused production to be delayed, resulting in the aircraft reaching its first units only in March 1951. During the delay however, the designation of the aircraft changed to F-86D and it received its unofficial nickname "Sabre Dog".
In January 1953, North American was approached by an offer from the Italian military to develop a twin-seater version of the F-86D armed with cannons. As the cost and necessary redesign work turned out to be too great, an agreement was made to produce the aircraft in its original design, but with cannon armament and a simplified fire control system instead. This new export version of the Sabre Dog received the new designation of F-86K.
Initially, the F-86K was produced exclusively in the U.S., but would later also be manufactured under licence by the Italian Fiat company. The F-86 entered service in 1955 and apart from the Italian Air Force, the F-86K also served with many other operators worldwide including France, West Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Honduras, Venezuela. Around 340 F-86Ks were produced out of over 2,800 Sabre Dogs built in total. Most of the F-86Ks would be decommissioned by the late '60s, while some even went on to serve into the '70s.
- From Devblog
Fun Fact: The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.
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Media
- Skins
- Images
- Videos
See also
- Related development
- Canadair Sabre (Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
- North American F-86A/F
- North American F-100 Super Sabre
- North American FJ-4 Fury
- Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era
- Grumman F9F Cougar
- Lavochkin La-15
- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15
- Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-17
- Hawker Hunter
- Dassault Super Mystère
- Saab J29 Tunnan
External links
- [Devblog] F-86K Sabre Dog: The Grand Tourist
- [joebaugher.com] North American F-86K Sabre
- Official data sheet - more details about the performance
North American Aviation | |
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Fighters | |
P-51A | P-51 · P-51A |
P-51C | P-51C-10 |
P-51D | P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30 |
P-51H | P-51H-5-NA |
Twin-engine fighters | F-82E |
Jet fighters | F-86A-5 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-35 · F-100D |
Strike aircraft | A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J |
FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232 | |
Bombers | B-25J-1 · B-25J-20 |
Export/Licence | ▂B-25J-30 · ␗B-25J-30 |
▄Mustang Mk IA · F-6C-10-NA · ␗P-51C-11-NT · ␗P-51D-20 · J26 David · J26 · P-51D-20-NA · ␗P-51K | |
F-86F-30 ▅ · ␗F-86F-30 · F-86F-40 ▅ · F-86F-40 JASDF▅ · ␗F-86F-40 | |
◄F-86K · ▄F-86K (Italy) · ▄F-86K (France) | |
␗F-100A · ▄F-100D · ␗F-100F | |
Captured | ▅P-51C-11-NT |
Canadair Limited license-built the F-86 as the CL-13 for use in Canada and export to Europe. | |
Fiat license-built the F-86K for the Italian Air Force though another 120 NAA built F-86Ks were also sold to the Italians. | |
See Also | Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Canadair Limited · Fiat Aviation |
France jet aircraft | |
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Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 | |
Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |
Belgium | ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM |
Netherlands | ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6 |