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{{Specs-Card|code=f-86k_late}}
 
 
{{About
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The original F-86D was developed as a bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) [[FFAR Mighty Mouse|Mighty Mouse]] folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953, Italy approached North American Aviation in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the '''F-86K''', a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter. France operated a total of 62 F-86Ks, built between 1956 and 1957 by Fiat, working as all-weather interceptors while the [[Mirage III (Family)|Mirage III]] was being developed.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]].  
 
  
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The original F-86D was developed as bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) [[FFAR Mighty Mouse|Mighty Mouse]] folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953 the Italians approached North American in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the F-86K, a fighter interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter.
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]]. Developed as an interceptor, the F-86K is a relatively sluggish aircraft. It has a good top speed and climb rate for its BR thanks to the new engine, which features an afterburner. However this comes at the cost of manoeuvrability and acceleration, so, the F-86K is not a classic dogfighter like the other Sabres, instead it is more useful at combat in high altitude, intercepting enemy bombers and using its AIM-9Bs against slow enemies from above. In simulator battles, it is especially useful, as it features a powerful radar and a powerful engine, useful for detecting aircraft at very high altitudes like bombers and other interceptors. Unfortunately, its radar lacks BVR or ACM mode, so it is impossible to lock onto other aircraft.
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|'''Fun Fact''': The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.
 
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || 1,000
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - at sea level)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters)
 
 
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! Stock
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| 1,103 || 1,097 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.4 || 28.3 || 42.7 || 37.1 || rowspan="2" | 1,000
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
 
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| ??? || 1,111 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || ??.? || 27.0 || ??.? || 56 || 1,000
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| 1,121 || 1,111 || 26.6 || 27.0 || 73.1 || 56.0
 
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==== Details ====
 
==== Details ====
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! colspan="6" | Features
 
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! Combat flaps
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
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! Take-off flaps
 
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! Landing flaps
 
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! Air brakes
 
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! Arrestor gear
 
 
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || ✓     <!-- ✓ -->
 
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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! -
 
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 620 || ~8 || ~4
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| 1,187 <!-- {{Specs|destruction|body}} --> || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 593 || 556 || 370 || ~8 || ~4
 
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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| < 850 || < 600 || < 660 || N/A
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==== Engine performance ====
 
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| colspan="2" | General Electric J47-GE-17B || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,532 kg || colspan="3" | 286 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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| 1,150 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet
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| 7,034 kg || 7,313 kg || 7,703 kg || 8,338 kg || 9,530 kg
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! colspan="5" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
 
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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| 0.55 || 0.53 || 0.50 || 0.46 || 0.41
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|M24A1 (20 mm)}}
 
{{main|M24A1 (20 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)
 
* 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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{{main|AIM-9B Sidewinder}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* Without load
 
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* 2 x AIM-9B missiles
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* 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from around .8 km away, then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing into the enemy and increasing your chance of survival. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F.6s which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles.
  
 
===Radars===
 
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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| Fuselage repair
 
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| Offensive 20 mm
 
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| II
 
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| New boosters
 
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| Airframe
 
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| AIM-9B
 
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| III
 
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| New 20 mm cannons
 
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| IV
 
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| G-suit
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinder
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* Afterburner
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* Good top speed
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* 20 mm cannon armament
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* Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h)
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* Has a search radar
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* Good acceleration with afterburner
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* Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers)
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* High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots
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* Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinders
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* Brake chute
  
 
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'''Cons:'''
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* Maximum speed is subsonic
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* Subsonic
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* Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats
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* Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis
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* Can easily rip wings with strong input
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* Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel
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* Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
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* No bombs or rockets
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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In March 1949, the North American company launched the development of a new jet interceptor, based on the existing F-86 Sabre, as part of a private venture. The new design was the first interceptor developed to be operated by a single crew member and utilized unguided rockets in combination with a complex fire control system, rather than conventional guns, in order to destroy its target. Already by April, the project had received official endorsement from high-ranking military officials and development of a production version began in parallel.
 
In March 1949, the North American company launched the development of a new jet interceptor, based on the existing F-86 Sabre, as part of a private venture. The new design was the first interceptor developed to be operated by a single crew member and utilized unguided rockets in combination with a complex fire control system, rather than conventional guns, in order to destroy its target. Already by April, the project had received official endorsement from high-ranking military officials and development of a production version began in parallel.
  
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While a production contract was signed in October, the first prototype, designated YF-95, conducted its maiden flight in December 1949. In the early ‘50s, Soviet nuclear testing and the subsequent start of the Korean conflict led to an accelerated development of the YF-95. Despite this, problems during development caused production to be delayed, resulting in the aircraft reaching its first units only in March 1951. During the delay however, the designation of the aircraft changed to F-86D and it received its unofficial nickname “Sabre Dog”.
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While a production contract was signed in October, the first prototype, designated YF-95, conducted its maiden flight in December 1949. In the early '50s, Soviet nuclear testing and the subsequent start of the Korean conflict led to an accelerated development of the YF-95. Despite this, problems during development caused production to be delayed, resulting in the aircraft reaching its first units only in March 1951. During the delay however, the designation of the aircraft changed to F-86D and it received its unofficial nickname "Sabre Dog".
  
 
In January 1953, North American was approached by an offer from the Italian military to develop a twin-seater version of the F-86D armed with cannons. As the cost and necessary redesign work turned out to be too great, an agreement was made to produce the aircraft in its original design, but with cannon armament and a simplified fire control system instead. This new export version of the Sabre Dog received the new designation of F-86K.
 
In January 1953, North American was approached by an offer from the Italian military to develop a twin-seater version of the F-86D armed with cannons. As the cost and necessary redesign work turned out to be too great, an agreement was made to produce the aircraft in its original design, but with cannon armament and a simplified fire control system instead. This new export version of the Sabre Dog received the new designation of F-86K.
  
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Initially, the F-86K was produced exclusively in the U.S., but would later also be manufactured under licence by the Italian Fiat company. The F-86 entered service in 1955 and apart from the Italian Air Force, the F-86K also served with many other operators worldwide including France, West Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Honduras, Venezuela. Around 340 F-86Ks were produced out of over 2,800 Sabre Dogs built in total. Most of the F-86Ks would be decommissioned by the late ‘60s, while some even went on to serve into the ‘70s.
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Initially, the F-86K was produced exclusively in the U.S., but would later also be manufactured under licence by the Italian Fiat company. The F-86 entered service in 1955 and apart from the Italian Air Force, the F-86K also served with many other operators worldwide including France, West Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Honduras, Venezuela. Around 340 F-86Ks were produced out of over 2,800 Sabre Dogs built in total. Most of the F-86Ks would be decommissioned by the late '60s, while some even went on to serve into the '70s.
  
 
''- From [[wt:en/news/6176-development-f-86k-sabre-dog-the-grand-tourist-en|Devblog]]''
 
''- From [[wt:en/news/6176-development-f-86k-sabre-dog-the-grand-tourist-en|Devblog]]''
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|'''Fun Fact''': The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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Latest revision as of 22:55, 15 November 2024

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
This page is about the jet fighter F-86K (France). For other versions, see F-86 (Family).
▄F-86K
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▄F-86K
France flag.png France
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
9.0 9.0 9.3
Class:
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Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The original F-86D was developed as a bomber interceptor and was outfitted with a retractable ventral rocket-rack which housed 24 x 2.75 in (70 mm) Mighty Mouse folding-fin aerial rockets. Lacking cannons or air-to-air missiles, the F-86D was limited in role strictly as a bomber hunter. In 1953, Italy approached North American Aviation in an attempt to modify the existing F-86D into a fighter-interceptor, however, the proposed changes proved too costly. This cost overage required scaling back the requirements and from this was produced the F-86K, a fighter-interceptor aircraft which was outfitted with 4 x 20 mm cannons and two AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles. Originally this aircraft was produced for the U.S., however, later the Italian manufacturer Fiat was licensed to also manufacture and produce this version of the fighter. France operated a total of 62 F-86Ks, built between 1956 and 1957 by Fiat, working as all-weather interceptors while the Mirage III was being developed.

It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy". Developed as an interceptor, the F-86K is a relatively sluggish aircraft. It has a good top speed and climb rate for its BR thanks to the new engine, which features an afterburner. However this comes at the cost of manoeuvrability and acceleration, so, the F-86K is not a classic dogfighter like the other Sabres, instead it is more useful at combat in high altitude, intercepting enemy bombers and using its AIM-9Bs against slow enemies from above. In simulator battles, it is especially useful, as it features a powerful radar and a powerful engine, useful for detecting aircraft at very high altitudes like bombers and other interceptors. Unfortunately, its radar lacks BVR or ACM mode, so it is impossible to lock onto other aircraft.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 111 km/h
Turn time27 s
Max altitude15 500 m
EngineGeneral Electric J47-GE-17B
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t

The F-86K is a good aircraft at its rank, but not the best. The F-86K has very good low-end acceleration due to its afterburner, however, this aircraft is still only a subsonic fighter. Like every other jet, it's bad at manoeuvring at low speeds and its control surfaces compress at high speeds. However, the F-86K can handle top speed relatively well compared to other aircraft of its rank. If the F-86K can do one thing very well, it excels when going into vertical flight.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,103 1,097 15500 27.4 28.3 42.7 37.1 1,000
Upgraded 1,121 1,111 26.6 27.0 73.1 56.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,187 350 593 556 370 ~8 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 850 < 600 < 660 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J47-GE-17B 1 6,532 kg 286 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel
1,150 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,034 kg 7,313 kg 7,703 kg 8,338 kg 9,530 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 13m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 46m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,294 kgf 3,158 kgf 0.45 0.43 0.41 0.38 0.33
Optimal 2,294 kgf
(0 km/h) 		3,861 kgf
(1,200 km/h) 		0.55 0.53 0.50 0.46 0.41

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear350 km/h

The plane is equipped at the front with a 6.35 mm steel plate protecting the pilot's wrist and up. The cockpit's frontal glass is made of 38 mm of bulletproof glass that helps against incoming small calibre rounds. All the while the pilot's seat is made of 12.7 mm of steel which protects his back of any incoming small calibre rounds and shrapnel.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 309 → 4 437 Sl icon.png
RB9 442 → 12 661 Sl icon.png
SB9 967 → 13 365 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications143 200 Rp icon.png
225 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
9 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
360 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
690 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
36 000 Sl icon.png
690 Ge icon.png
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t_160_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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AIM-9B
Research:
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Cost:
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t_160_new_gun
Research:
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Cost:
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Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 20 mm M24A1 cannon
Ammunition528 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Main article: M24A1 (20 mm)

The F-86K (France) is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm M24A1 cannons, nose-mounted (132 rpg = 528 total)

Suspended armament

List of setups (1)
Setup 12 x AIM-9B Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Main article: AIM-9B Sidewinder

The F-86K (France) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles

Usage in battles

The F-86K should be used mainly as a support fighter, due to its sub-par maneuverability compared to other aircraft at its rank such as the MiG-17 at low speeds. In a 1 vs 1 dogfight, the F-86K is outclassed when pitted against a MiG-17 unless you fight in a vertical, which this aircraft should do most of the time. When it comes to bomber hunting, this aircraft has four M24A1s, however these are also fantastic to use during a head-on attack. However, don't commit to head ons, instead fire a burst from around .8 km away, then pull out. This is to decrease the chances of both of you crashing into the enemy and increasing your chance of survival. Your opponents will mainly be slightly lower-ranked aircraft like the MiG-15 Bis or F-86 A5 Sabre which you can easily out climb or outrun. However, sometimes you will get up-tiered to a higher rank and unfortunately, any thrust advantage is nullified when facing F-100s which are supersonic aircraft. There is a potential to be matched up against Hunter F.6s which can be armed with the devastating SRAAM missiles.

Radars

Main article: AN/APS-21

The F-86K is equipped with an AN/APS-21 search radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.

AN/APS-21 - Target Detection Radar
Maximum
Detection
Range 		Guaranteed
Detection
Range 		Max Azimuth
Scan Angle 		Max Elevation
Scan Angle
45,000 m 28,000 m ±85° ±16°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed
  • Good roll rate at low/medium speed (<800 km/h)
  • Good acceleration with afterburner
  • Has a search radar (can only spot bombers or large attackers)
  • High velocity 20 mm cannons, highly effective in head-ons and deflection shots
  • Possesses payload of two air-to-air missiles AIM-9B Sidewinders
  • Brake chute

Cons:

  • Subsonic
  • Heavy compared to regular Sabres so less nimble, even with leading slats
  • Hard compression at high speed (>900 km/h), especially in the roll axis
  • Can easily rip wings with strong input
  • Afterburner guzzles a lot of fuel
  • Missile lock can be broken with a high-G manoeuvre
  • No bombs or rockets

History

In March 1949, the North American company launched the development of a new jet interceptor, based on the existing F-86 Sabre, as part of a private venture. The new design was the first interceptor developed to be operated by a single crew member and utilized unguided rockets in combination with a complex fire control system, rather than conventional guns, in order to destroy its target. Already by April, the project had received official endorsement from high-ranking military officials and development of a production version began in parallel.

While a production contract was signed in October, the first prototype, designated YF-95, conducted its maiden flight in December 1949. In the early '50s, Soviet nuclear testing and the subsequent start of the Korean conflict led to an accelerated development of the YF-95. Despite this, problems during development caused production to be delayed, resulting in the aircraft reaching its first units only in March 1951. During the delay however, the designation of the aircraft changed to F-86D and it received its unofficial nickname "Sabre Dog".

In January 1953, North American was approached by an offer from the Italian military to develop a twin-seater version of the F-86D armed with cannons. As the cost and necessary redesign work turned out to be too great, an agreement was made to produce the aircraft in its original design, but with cannon armament and a simplified fire control system instead. This new export version of the Sabre Dog received the new designation of F-86K.

Initially, the F-86K was produced exclusively in the U.S., but would later also be manufactured under licence by the Italian Fiat company. The F-86 entered service in 1955 and apart from the Italian Air Force, the F-86K also served with many other operators worldwide including France, West Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Honduras, Venezuela. Around 340 F-86Ks were produced out of over 2,800 Sabre Dogs built in total. Most of the F-86Ks would be decommissioned by the late '60s, while some even went on to serve into the '70s.

- From Devblog

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Fun Fact: The Sabre Dog was initially to be designated F-95, but had its name changed to F-86D instead, in order to make it seem like a variant of the existing Sabre and not an entirely new aircraft. In reality, however, the F-86D was only about 25% similar to the original F-86 and the name change was only done to secure further support for the project.

—  War Thunder Dev Blog

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The Sabre That Isn't Really A Sabre - Spit_flyer
The Shooting Range #159 - Metal Beasts section at 00:35 discusses the F-86K (France).

See also

Related development
  • Canadair Sabre (Sabres manufactured with the designator "CL")
  • North American F-86A/F
  • North American F-100 Super Sabre
  • North American FJ-4 Fury
Aircraft of comparable role, configuration and era

External links


North American Aviation
Fighters 
P-51A  P-51 · P-51A
P-51C  P-51C-10
P-51D  P-51D-5 · P-51D-10 · P-51D-20-NA · P-51D-30
P-51H  P-51H-5-NA
Twin-engine fighters  F-82E
Jet fighters  F-86A-5 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-35 · F-100D
Strike aircraft  A-36 · PBJ-1H · PBJ-1J
  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
Bombers  B-25J-1 · B-25J-20
Export/Licence  ▂B-25J-30 · ␗B-25J-30
  ▄Mustang Mk IA · F-6C-10-NA · ␗P-51C-11-NT · ␗P-51D-20 · J26 David · J26 · P-51D-20-NA · ␗P-51K
  F-86F-30 ▅ · ␗F-86F-30 · F-86F-40 ▅ · F-86F-40 JASDF▅ · ␗F-86F-40
  ◄F-86K · ▄F-86K (Italy) · ▄F-86K (France)
  ␗F-100A · ▄F-100D · ␗F-100F
Captured  ▅P-51C-11-NT
  Canadair Limited license-built the F-86 as the CL-13 for use in Canada and export to Europe.
  Fiat license-built the F-86K for the Italian Air Force though another 120 NAA built F-86Ks were also sold to the Italians.
See Also  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Canadair Limited · Fiat Aviation

France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E
  Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Belgium  ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM
Netherlands  ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6

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