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Overall, the armor on the Challenger DS is exactly the same as the tech tree counterpart, the [[Challenger Mk.3]]. However, it lacks the additional ROMOR ERA and the sides armor package. It gets a slight but neglible upgrade on the lower frontal plate compared to the [[Challenger Mk.2]] as it has spare tracks strapped on the LFP. While it is a Challenger Mk.3, it is most comparable to the Challenger Mk.2 in terms of armor. The upper half of the turret cheeks are capable of withstanding almost all kinetic penetrators and will stop most chemical penetrators with less than 800 mm, while the lower half won't protect against most top-rank rounds. The hull composite is only good against lower penetrating APFSDS rounds such as [[T-55AM-1|T-55AM]], and can also withstand some chemical munitions, but it is not advised to rely on this armour. The rest of the tank (turret and hull sides, lower front plate) has decent protection against chemical rounds due to the add on armour, ERA, and thick turret sides.
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Overall, the armour on the Challenger DS is exactly the same as the tech tree counterpart, the [[Challenger Mk.3]]. However, it lacks the additional ROMOR ERA and the sides armour package. It gets a slight but negligible upgrade on the lower frontal plate compared to the [[Challenger Mk.2]] as it has spare tracks strapped on the LFP. While it is a Challenger Mk.3, it is most comparable to the Challenger Mk.2 in terms of armour. The upper half of the turret cheeks are capable of withstanding almost all kinetic penetrators and will stop most chemical projectiles with less than 800 mm penetration, while the lower half won't protect against most top-rank rounds. The hull composite is only good against lower penetrating APFSDS rounds such as [[T-55AM-1|T-55AM]], and can also withstand some chemical munitions, but it is not advised to rely on this armour. The rest of the tank (turret and hull sides, lower front plate) has decent protection against chemical rounds due to the add on armour, ERA, and thick turret sides.
  
 
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!Armour!!Front (Slope angle)!!Sides!!Rear!!Roof
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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|Hull||38 mm (79-81°), 50* mm (60°) ''Upper glacis''
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| Hull || 38 mm (79-81°), 50 mm (60°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 70 mm (30°) ''Lower glacis'' || 20 mm, 25 mm (74°) ''Top'' <br> 38 mm (12°) ''Bottom''
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70 mm (30°) ''Lower glacis''
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| 25 mm (29-30°) || 20 mm <br> 8 mm ''Engine grille''
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|20 mm, 25 mm (74°) ''Top''
 
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38 mm (12°) ''Bottom''
 
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|25 mm (29-30°)||20 mm
 
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8 mm ''Engine grille''
 
 
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|Turret||50* mm (51-54°)
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| Turret || 50 mm (51-54°) <br> 60 mm (55-56°), 200 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 80 mm + 15 mm ''Front right'' <br> 80 + 25 mm + 4 mm ''Front'' <br> 45 + 4 mm ''Rear'' || 44 + 4 mm || 38 mm (82°) ''Front'' <br> 20 mm (80-90°) ''Rear''
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60 mm (55-56°), 200 mm ''Gun mantlet''
 
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|80 mm + 15 mm ''Front right''
 
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80 + 25 mm + 4 mm ''Front''
 
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45 + 4 mm ''Rear''||44 + 4 mm||38 mm (82°) ''Front''
 
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20 mm (80-90°) ''Rear''
 
 
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|Cupola|| colspan="4" |60 mm
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| Cupola || colspan="4" | 60 mm
 
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* The propellant ammo racks are surrounded by 5 mm RHA.
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* Side skirts consist of 150 mm NERA composite, 70 mm composite screens, or 19 mm aluminium.
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*The propellant ammo racks are surrounded by 5 mm RHA.
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* Tracks and wheels are 20 mm thick.
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*Side skirts consist of 150 mm NERA composite, 70 mm composite screens, or 19 mm aluminium.
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* Sandbags are just decorative.
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*Tracks and wheels are 20 mm thick.
 
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*Sandbags are just decorational
 
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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While it is the slowest western MBT at the battle-rating, is it not a slow platform. It holds a fast top speed for both forward and reverse. Despite being a heavy vehicle, the brake distance is surprisingly low, between 20-30 meters at top speed. It has the ability to do neutral steering relatively fast and, since it comes with all upgrades, it immediatly gets the 'tracks' modification which significantly improve this ability. It has little to medium impact when crossing muddy terrain, wet and snowy terrain, but nothing that impacts performance significantly. Thanks to not having the additional armor package, the cross-country capabilities of the Challenger DS are significantly increased, being able to easily traverse and cross over long trenches, deep craters and through steep terrains up to a certain level.
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While it is slower than Western MBTs at its BR, is it not a slow platform. It holds a fast top speed for both forward and reverse. Despite being a heavy vehicle, the brake distance is surprisingly low, between 20-30 m at top speed. It has the ability to do neutral steering relatively fast and, since it comes with all upgrades, it immediately gets the tracks modification which significantly improve this ability. It has little to medium impact when crossing muddy terrain, wet and snowy terrain, but nothing that impacts performance significantly. Thanks to not having the additional armour package, the cross-country capabilities of the Challenger DS are significantly increased, being able to easily traverse and cross over long trenches, deep craters and through steep terrains up to a certain level.
  
 
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{{main|L11A5 (120 mm)}}The Challenger bears the 120 mm L11A5, an updated but essentially identical version of the gun found on the Chieftains. It it keeps the same ammunition as the Challenger Mk.2 and previous Chieftain Mk.10, making the ballistic performance identical. The L23 comes as the stock round with a singificant armor penetration at the cost of reduced penetration angle. L23A1 has much better angle penetration at the cost of reduced armor penetration.
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The Challenger bears the 120 mm L11A5, an updated but essentially identical version of the gun found on the Chieftains. It it keeps the same ammunition as the Challenger Mk.2 and previous Chieftain Mk.10, making the ballistic performance identical. The L23 comes as the stock round with a significant armour penetration at the cost of reduced penetration angle. L23A1 has much better angle penetration at the cost of reduced armour penetration.
  
 
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Revision as of 11:02, 29 June 2022

This page is about the premium British MBT Challenger DS. For other uses, see Challenger (Disambiguation).
Challenger DS
uk_challenger_1_mk_3_gulf.png
GarageImage Challenger DS.jpg
Challenger DS
Britain flag.png Britain
VII Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
10.7 10.7 10.7
Class:
PREMIUM
Purchase:Bundle or Gift
Show in game
STORE

Description

The Tank, Combat, 120-mm Gun, Challenger Mk.3, Desert Storm is a premium gift rank VII British medium tank with a battle rating of 10.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone".

General info

Survivability and armour

Composite armour
Balanced protection against all types of ammunition
Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
ESS
Creation of a smoke screen in the direction of movement of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull80 / 38 / 25
Turret110 / 80 / 44
Crew4 people
Visibility88 %

Overall, the armour on the Challenger DS is exactly the same as the tech tree counterpart, the Challenger Mk.3. However, it lacks the additional ROMOR ERA and the sides armour package. It gets a slight but negligible upgrade on the lower frontal plate compared to the Challenger Mk.2 as it has spare tracks strapped on the LFP. While it is a Challenger Mk.3, it is most comparable to the Challenger Mk.2 in terms of armour. The upper half of the turret cheeks are capable of withstanding almost all kinetic penetrators and will stop most chemical projectiles with less than 800 mm penetration, while the lower half won't protect against most top-rank rounds. The hull composite is only good against lower penetrating APFSDS rounds such as T-55AM, and can also withstand some chemical munitions, but it is not advised to rely on this armour. The rest of the tank (turret and hull sides, lower front plate) has decent protection against chemical rounds due to the add on armour, ERA, and thick turret sides.

Armour type:

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 38 mm (79-81°), 50 mm (60°) Upper glacis
70 mm (30°) Lower glacis 		20 mm, 25 mm (74°) Top
38 mm (12°) Bottom 		25 mm (29-30°) 20 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Turret 50 mm (51-54°)
60 mm (55-56°), 200 mm Gun mantlet 		80 mm + 15 mm Front right
80 + 25 mm + 4 mm Front
45 + 4 mm Rear 		44 + 4 mm 38 mm (82°) Front
20 mm (80-90°) Rear
Cupola 60 mm

Notes:

  • The propellant ammo racks are surrounded by 5 mm RHA.
  • Side skirts consist of 150 mm NERA composite, 70 mm composite screens, or 19 mm aluminium.
  • Tracks and wheels are 20 mm thick.
  • Sandbags are just decorative.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB62 / 41 km/h
RB and SB56 / 37 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
6 back
Weight63.7 t
Engine power
AB2 322 hp
RB and SB1 217 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB36.5 hp/t
RB and SB19.1 hp/t

While it is slower than Western MBTs at its BR, is it not a slow platform. It holds a fast top speed for both forward and reverse. Despite being a heavy vehicle, the brake distance is surprisingly low, between 20-30 m at top speed. It has the ability to do neutral steering relatively fast and, since it comes with all upgrades, it immediately gets the tracks modification which significantly improve this ability. It has little to medium impact when crossing muddy terrain, wet and snowy terrain, but nothing that impacts performance significantly. Thanks to not having the additional armour package, the cross-country capabilities of the Challenger DS are significantly increased, being able to easily traverse and cross over long trenches, deep craters and through steep terrains up to a certain level.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 62 41 63.7 1,860 2,322 29.2 36.45
Realistic 56 37 1,061 1,217 16.66 19.11

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB3 363 Sl icon.png
RB3 260 Sl icon.png
SB3 794 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 160 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces2 150 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 150 / 200 / 250 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement uk.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
ESS
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_Smoke_ammo_pack
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Mods tank ammo.png
120mm_britain_L23A1_APDSFS_ammo_pack
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Night vision device
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.
Thermal imager
Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

120 mm L11A5 cannon
Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition52 rounds
First-order4 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
Main article: L11A5 (120 mm)

The Challenger bears the 120 mm L11A5, an updated but essentially identical version of the gun found on the Chieftains. It it keeps the same ammunition as the Challenger Mk.2 and previous Chieftain Mk.10, making the ballistic performance identical. The L23 comes as the stock round with a significant armour penetration at the cost of reduced penetration angle. L23A1 has much better angle penetration at the cost of reduced armour penetration.

120 mm L11A5 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 52 -10°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 29.5 40.9 49.6 54.9 58.4 6.50 5.75 5.30 5.00
Realistic 18.4 21.7 26.4 29.1 31.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot L23 APFSDS 410 408 405 400 390 380
Shell L31A7 HESH 152 152 152 152 152 152
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 396 394 387 376 367 357
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot L23 APFSDS 1,535 3.89 N/A N/A N/A 76° 77° 80°
Shell L31A7 HESH 670 17.1 0.1 4 6,560 73° 77° 80°
Shot L23A1 APFSDS 1,535 3.89 N/A N/A N/A 78° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Screen radius
(m) 		Screen deploy time
(s) 		Screen hold time
(s) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
L34 670 17.1 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
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Machine guns

7.62 mm L8A2 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition2 400 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate1 001 shots/min
7.62 mm L37A2 machine gun
Ammunition3 600 rounds
Belt capacity100 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate650 shots/min
Main articles: L8A2 (7.62 mm), L37A2 (7.62 mm)
7.62 mm L8A2
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 2,400 (200) 600 N/A N/A
7.62 mm L37A2
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 3,600 (100) 650 -10°/+50° ±180°

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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History

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Media

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See also

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External links

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Challenger*  Challenger Mk.2 · Challenger Mk.3 · Challenger DS
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  **Swedish modernizations incorporating innovations from the Israeli Sho't Kals.

Britain medium tanks
Valentine  Valentine I · Valentine IX · Valentine XI
Cromwell  Cromwell I · Cromwell V · Cromwell V (RP-3)
Cromwell derivatives  Challenger · Avenger · Comet I · Comet I "Iron Duke IV" · Charioteer Mk VII
Centurion  Centurion Mk 1 · Centurion Mk.2 · Centurion Mk 3 · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk 10 · Centurion Action X · FV4202
Vickers MBT  Vickers Mk.1 · Vickers Mk.3 · Vickers Mk.7
Chieftain  Chieftain Mk 3 · Chieftain Mk 5 · Chieftain Mk 10
Challenger 1  Challenger Mk.2 · Challenger Mk.3 · Challenger DS
Challenger 2  Challenger 2 · Challenger 2 (2F) · Challenger 2 TES · Challenger 2 OES · Challenger 2E · Challenger 2 Black Night
Challenger 3  Challenger 3 TD
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South Africa  Olifant Mk.1A · Olifant Mk.2 · TTD
India  Vijayanta · Bhishma TWMP
Israel  ▄Sho't Kal Dalet
Jordan  Khalid
Sweden  ▄Strv 81 (RB 52)
USA  Grant I · Sherman II · Sherman Firefly · Sherman IC "Trzyniec"

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  Centurion Mk.2 · ▄Strv 81 (RB 52) · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk.5/1 · ▄Sho't Kal Dalet · Centurion Action X
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