Black Prince

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RANK 4 FRANCE
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A.43 Black Prince
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AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
5.7/6.0/6.0BR
5 peopleCrew
103 %Visibility
front / side / backArmour
152 / 95 / 51Hull
152 / 95 / 101Turret
Mobility
50 tWeight
668 hp350 hpEngine power
13.4 hp/t7 hp/tPower-to-weight ratio
19 km/h forward
3 km/h back
18 km/h forward
3 km/h back
Speed
Armament
76 mm QF 17-pounder cannonMain weapon
89 roundsAmmunition
15 roundsFirst-order
5.9 / 7.6 sReload
-10° / 20°Vertical guidance
7.92 mm BESA machine gunCoaxial weapon
8100 roundsAmmunition
8 / 10.4 sReload
225 roundsBelt capacity
600 shots/minFire rate
Economy
Sl icon.png3700/3300/4400Repair
10000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
340000 Sl icon.pngExperts
890 Ge icon.pngAces
178 × 2 Talisman.png % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
160 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png140 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png100 × 2 Talisman.png % Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage Black Prince.jpg


The A.43 Black Prince is a premium gift rank IV British heavy tank with a battle rating of 6.0 (AB/RB) and 5.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.53 "Firestorm" and is one of the first British tanks to be introduced into the game. It was initially available as a pre-order pack from the Gaijin store, but was discontinued after the 2017 Winter sales.

The A43 Black Prince is a modified Churchill tank equipped with the legendary OQF-17 Pounder cannon; a weapon made famous by the Sherman Firefly, M10 Achilles, and its ability to destroy the German 8.8 cm heavy tanks such as the Tiger tank. It also features a single 7.62 mm BESA machine gun, which works great for destroying light tanks and SPAA vehicles.

The A43 Black prince makes enemy players retreat in fear, as it offers one of the most powerful guns available in the game, capable of destroying a Ferdinand, IS-2, and other tanks from over 1 km away. The reloading time is great for its rank, at a mere 7.6s and when coupled with the tank's heavy armour, can stand as quite a lethal opponent.

However, the Black Prince does have some negatives. The extra armour adds extra weight to the vehicle, which makes it extremely slow with a top speed of 17 km/h (10 mph) and only -2 km/h (-1 mph) reverse speed. With the tank's low profile, it makes it difficult to see over foreign obstacles such as debris, hills and walls.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Turret front, Turret sides, Cupola)

It's vulnerable to HE rounds, which will often bounce and enter through the roof. The ammunition is located along the sides of the vehicle, making these a primary weak spot for enemy players to target.

The A43 Black Prince has one of the thickest armour installations of any tanks. The front is able to be continuously hit by larger and more powerful calibre tanks at close range without taking much, if any damage. However, if you come up against a tank shooting HEAT or HE rounds they will likely penetrate the armour with ease. Do not expose the sides to the enemy player, as it is one of the weakest parts of the tank, seconded only to the lower front part of the turret. Not only that, the sides contain the location of the ammunition; If it is hit, it is likely to detonate. If the ammunition does not detonate, the vehicle's crew will be incapacitated.

It lacks a top-mounted machine gun, which is normally a deterrent against low flying aircraft, making the vehicle more vulnerable to be attacks by a planes, and an easy target for bombers. The turret's slow traverse speed also makes the use of the internal machine gun useless against aircraft attacks. Due to the low profile of this tank, being hit in the lower front turret is a rare occurrence. You still need to be careful of HEAT and HE rounds, as the low profile design will allow the enemy rounds to enter the turret's machine gun port and either knock out the loader: if using an APCR or solid shot round, OR, if using other rounds such as APCBC, APBC and HEAT, it is very likely that all the turret crew will be eliminated.

Tank Armour Table
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 152 mm Front plate
57 mm (70°) Front glacis
139 mm (20-60°) Lower glacis
82 mm Top
95 mm Bottom
51 mm (20°) Top
25 mm (60°) Bottom
25 mm Front
18 mm Engine deck
Turret 152 mm (6-83°) Turret front
152 mm (0-25°) Gun mantlet
95 mm 101 + 4 mm 38 mm (73°) Front
18 mm Bottom
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 100 mm 38 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and chassis construction are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 18-25 mm thick.
  • There is a 19 mm thick plate separating the engine compartment to the crew's.
  • A 50 mm turret ring shield is present on the front of the turret.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 19 3 50 452 668 9.04 13.36
Realistic 18 3 310 350 6.2 7

When playing the Black Prince you will immediately notice the speed and length: it is not a fast tank. You will also notice that it can sometimes struggle to get up hills and small embankments. It is recommended to stay on flat terrain and to make small sharp turns. This will keep more momentum than a single big turn which will lose most of your much needed momentum.

The A43 is a rather long tank making it almost impossible to get wedged between ditches, but the vehicle lacks sufficient engine power required to pull itself over the obstacles and often gets stuck when climbing over them.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: QF 17-pounder (76 mm)

However, the A43 Black Prince does have one of the most powerful cannons in the game, and is capable of destroying tiger tanks and other heavily armoured vehicles from short to long distances, and is equipped with many different ammunition types which are viable for different situations. The APDS is the recommended choice for giving the gun the full potential of being capable of destroying more heavily armoured targets at longer ranges.

76 mm QF 17-pounder Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 89 -10°/+20° ±180° N/A 13.76 19.04 23.12 25.57 27.20 7.67 6.79 6.25 5.90
Realistic 10.12 11.90 14.45 15.98 17.00

Ammunition

The Black Prince is equipped with some of the most lethal ammunition types in the game. It can carry a combination of different type or just a single type of projectiles.

  • Shot Mk.6 - AP - Standard round / low shrapnel: use against medium or light tanks
  • Shell Mk.1 - HE - Ideal for destroying SPAA and lightly armoured tanks
  • Shot Mk.4 - APC - Standard round / medium shrapnel: use against medium tanks
  • Shot Mk.8 - APCBC - Deadliest round / high shrapnel damage: use against most opponents
  • Shot SV Mk.1 - APDS - Most penetrative round but less damage than APCBC (low spalling): good to use against post-WW2 era opponents or heavily-armoured tanks
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot Mk.6 AP 171 168 155 139 126 113
Shell Mk.1 HE 9 9 9 9 9 9
Shot Mk.4 APC 171 168 155 139 126 113
Shot Mk.8 APCBC 190 187 172 155 140 126
Shot SV Mk.1 APDS 228 226 207 189 159 134
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot Mk.6 AP 883 7.71 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
Shell Mk.1 HE 883 6.98 0.4 0.5 580 79° 80° 81°
Shot Mk.4 APC 883 7.71 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Shot Mk.8 APCBC 883 7.71 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Shot SV Mk.1 APDS 1,203 1.73 N/A N/A N/A 75° 78° 80°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
17pdr Shell SS Mk.1 229 8.44 13 5 20 50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Black Prince

Last updated: 1.101.1.14

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
89 76 (+13) 62 (+27) 48 (+41) 34 (+55) 25 (+64) 16 (+73) (+88) No
  • Rack 7 is a first-stage ammo rack

Optics

Black Prince Optics
Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics x1.8 x3.5
Comparable optics Churchill Mk I

This tank uses an outdated x3.5 scope like early British tanks, attempts to outsnipe SPG of rank IV with the mobility of Black Prince will likely end in disaster.

Use APDS or smoke shells to make tanks 800+ m away leave it alone, as discerning enemy tank weak spots and targeting them using normal AP from that far away with this sight becomes a problem. When choosing directions, go with ones which are not easy to exploit by hostile sniper tanks.

Machine guns

Main article: BESA (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm BESA
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 8,100 (225) 600 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

When engaged in combat with heavier and more lethal vehicles, using the APDS rounds will allow you to cause major damage. In order to get the most protection for the tank and crew, do not expose the sides or allow enemies to get to the rear of the vehicle. Instead, turn the front of tank towards the enemy player but give it a slight angle. The enemy rounds will have a higher chance of ricocheting off of the frontal plate, however if the enemy tank uses HE ammunition, there is a high chance that the round may bounce and enter the vehicle's roof.

If engaged in close quarters combat, do not allow the other tank to circle and flank you, instead aim for the vehicle's tracks and destroy them and move away, then finish it off. Most importantly, do not allow them to get the rear of the tank, as you will be unable to effectively hit the enemy due to the twin radiators on the back of the vehicle, and the turret's slow traverse.

In terms of tactics:

Offensive

Keep your distance from enemy tanks, as the cannon is capable of destroying most tanks from long distances with relative ease. Combined with the slow speed of the vehicle, you'll find yourself being capable of firing on the move despite the lack of a stabiliser. The tank's low profile makes it difficult to see over terrain and obstacles, so it is often best to remain on level ground.

Avoid letting the enemy flank you at all costs, as the sides of the Black Prince are the softest weak points, containing the ammunition storage. If the sides of the vehicle are penetrated by enemy rounds, the ammunition will likely detonate, or the crew will be knocked out/critically injured, making you an easy target.

It's best to avoid letting enemy players flank you from behind, as the turret's traverse will prevent you from being able to hit them quick enough, and the twin radiators on the back of the vehicle will prevent the turret from rotating all the way.

Defensive

When playing the Black Prince, it is often best to find a well-protected and concealed place, I.E. an ally tank, dense woodland or between rubble. Make sure the front of the tank is facing the enemy with a slight angle in order to get the most out of the vehicle's armour, whilst the cannon will allow you to destroy the enemy tanks from long distances. However don't expose the sides or the rear due to weakness and some vulnerability in the design of the tank.

Enemies worth noting:

IS-2:

The IS-2 carries a very deadly cannon that can one-shot literally anything, including the Black Prince. Its 122 mm gun can easily go through your frontal hull and turret, subsequently knocking out everyone inside. The best way to avoid that is to angle your hull so that your long, large tracks cover up the frontal hull, exposing your angled side and luring the IS-2 into firing at your side armour. The side armour of the Black Prince resembles the Churchills' which are quite complex, with some weird internal structures soaking up lots of shells, increasing your survivability. Against an IS-2 1943, aim at the hull armour that curves and blends into the side, or the turret cheeks. Its crew are closely packed and even the British solid shells can knock them all out at once. Against a 1944 model, only shoot at its turret as the hull is quite strong.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Shot Mk.4 Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Shot Mk.8 Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment Shot SV Mk.1 Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine 17pdr Shell SS Mk.1 Smoke grenade
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Ammunition is not stored in the turret
  • APDS is able to penetrate and cause major damage to enemies from long distances, and is capable of destroying most tanks in a single shot at close ranges. (As long as you know where to hit)
  • Good reloading speed of 7.6s with stock crew, with further crew skills and qualifications, it becomes one of the fastest in the rank
  • Great armour
  • Effective at long ranges
  • The lower front of the turret has an additional 50 mm of armour
  • With advancement on crew skills and qualifications, the tank can be a lethal opponent
  • Being a premium vehicle,high Silver Lion and Research Point reward

Cons:

  • It struggles to climb hills without losing significant speed
  • Max speed of 17 km/h (10 mph)
  • Max reverse speed of -2 km/h (-1 mph)
  • The vehicle can often not be able to climb steep hills
  • The length of the vehicle
  • Ammunition is stored in the sides of the tank, making it easy to hit
  • The vehicle's side armour is weak, allowing it to be easily damaged from the sides
  • The turret's traverse is slow compared to others at only 10.5/s
  • The low profile can make shooting over obstacles hard
  • The turret machine gun port is only 10 mm thick, and can be penetrated easily
  • Lacks any form of top-mounted anti-aircraft weaponry

History

Development

The Black Prince is an experimental design that was to use the British Infantry tank, the Churchill, as the basis with much more armour and a better gun. The name originates from Edward of Woodstock, otherwise known as the "Black Prince", a 14th century military leader. The Churchill and its branch of infantry tanks, in the course of World War II, was becoming slightly obsolete in the highly mobile style of warfare the cruiser tanks proved much better at. The infantry tanks were originally made for heavy, breakthrough style of warfare with infantry, so they were kept around in a style of "heavy tanks", but the Axis' gradually increasing anti-tank capacity caused the armour of the infantry tanks to be considered insufficient.

To keep the infantry tanks relevant in the course of World War II, the Churchill was upgraded in armour and armament to better compete against the changing anti-tank warfare, starting in 1943. The original Churchill tank in the later part of World War II had the QF 75 mm cannon (British-produced 75 mm from the Americans) and about 102 mm of armour average, and weighed about 38 tons. The Black Prince upgraded the armour to 152 mm thick, widened the tracks by 10 inches, modified the suspensions for the new weight. The 75 mm gun was instead replaced by the QF 17-pounder cannon, which was one of the best Allied anti-tank guns in service. The larger gun required a larger turret and a larger turret ring on the hull. All these modifications increased the tank weight by ten tons, but kept the engine used in the regular Churchill, so the tank was considered under-powered, only able to reach up to 10 mph on roads and this limited the tank's operational radius. The tank was designated the Tank, Infantry, Black Prince (A43) and the A43 model was for a Staff Specification number issued in 1943 for an interim tank that could be made until the development of a "Universal Tank".

Deployment

However, by the time the Black Prince was ready in May 1945; it was too late for it to see service in World War II. Even if it had, many more tank designs such as the Sherman Firefly and the Comet are much more mobile and effective, yet have the same 17-pounder gun available. Also, a new tank about to be introduced, the Centurion, has the same protection level as the Black Prince, yet with the same gun and is way more mobile than the Black Prince. This caused the Black Prince to fall into obsolescence and the project, along with the entire line of the infantry tank concept in British tank doctrine, was abandoned in favour of a concept of more mobile tanks with great firepower and protection, which would eventually form the idea of the main battle tanks.

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External links


Britain heavy tanks
Infantry tanks  Independent · Matilda III · Excelsior · Churchill I · Churchill III · Churchill VII · Black Prince
Post-war  Caernarvon · Conqueror

Britain premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  A13 Mk I (3rd R.T.R.) · A13 Mk II 1939 · AEC Mk II · Crusader "The Saint"
Medium tanks  Grant I · Cromwell V (RP-3) · Sherman IC "Trzyniec" · A.C.IV · Comet I "Iron Duke IV"
  Strv 81 (RB 52) · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Sho't Kal Dalet · Centurion Action X
Heavy tanks  Independent · Excelsior · Black Prince
Tank destroyers  Achilles (65 Rg.) · QF 3.7 Ram · Rooikat 105