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* Excellent climb rate, almost same as the [[MiG-15bis]] | * Excellent climb rate, almost same as the [[MiG-15bis]] | ||
* Guns will tear even the heaviest of bombers into shreds with an accurate burst | * Guns will tear even the heaviest of bombers into shreds with an accurate burst | ||
| − | * Very good | + | * Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds |
| − | * More | + | * More maneuverable at high speeds than the MiG-15s |
* Excellent energy retention, but still loses some speed when turning hard | * Excellent energy retention, but still loses some speed when turning hard | ||
| − | * If you airbrake enemies should struggle to make you overshoot | + | * If you airbrake enemies should struggle to make you overshoot |
* Performs well at altitude when compared to aircraft such as the F-86F Sabres and the Hunter F.1 | * Performs well at altitude when compared to aircraft such as the F-86F Sabres and the Hunter F.1 | ||
* Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h (IAS) and up to Mach 1.10 when diving | * Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h (IAS) and up to Mach 1.10 when diving | ||
* If you do NOT ROLL while you are turning, its hard to break your wings in a turn | * If you do NOT ROLL while you are turning, its hard to break your wings in a turn | ||
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* Very similar to the [[MiG-15bis]], meaning similar play styles | * Very similar to the [[MiG-15bis]], meaning similar play styles | ||
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* Roll rate is not on par with others in this tier | * Roll rate is not on par with others in this tier | ||
| − | * | + | * Poor fuel options (8 or 20 minutes) |
* Armament difficult to use (low velocities, low ammo and two different trajectories) | * Armament difficult to use (low velocities, low ammo and two different trajectories) | ||
* Mediocre acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h | * Mediocre acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h | ||
* Acceleration and energy retention makes defensive fighting harder as you might overshoot targets | * Acceleration and energy retention makes defensive fighting harder as you might overshoot targets | ||
| − | * Poor forward visibility in simulator, as a large canopy frame and the gunsight block the top and | + | * Poor forward visibility in simulator, as a large canopy frame and the gunsight block the top and botto |
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* Lacks radar rangefinder for the gyro sight | * Lacks radar rangefinder for the gyro sight | ||
* Engine eventually might overheat when operated over 96% throttle | * Engine eventually might overheat when operated over 96% throttle | ||
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The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and [[MiG-15bis]] fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft's speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The [[MiG-15]] and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don't count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details. | The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and [[MiG-15bis]] fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft's speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The [[MiG-15]] and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don't count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details. | ||
| − | These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the | + | These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the MiG-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three. |
The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the [[MiG-15bis]]. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor. | The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the [[MiG-15bis]]. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor. | ||
Revision as of 16:31, 25 January 2021
| This page is about the Russian jet fighter MiG-17. For other versions, see MiG-17 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The MiG-17 is a rank VI Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/SB) and 8.7 (RB). It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". It is known by many names in the world, with a NATO reporting name of Fresco, the Chinese name Shenyang J-5 (歼-5), and the Polish name PZL-Mielec Lim-5.
Building off of the successful MiG-15, the MiG-17 improves performance and handling to be better able to tolerate the higher speeds common in jet combat.
General info
Flight performance
The MiG-17 can best be described as a more user-friendly MiG-15bis. It features a much better roll rate, compresses less at subsonic speeds, and pulls harder, yet has worse acceleration and energy retention, as well as low speed performance, as well as being easier to rip. It is also the lowest battle rated Soviet plane to be able to breach Mach rated speeds under normal combat conditions.
| Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 2,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | 1,091 | 1,061 | 15500 | 22.2 | 23.2 | 41.2 | 39.1 | 475 |
| Upgraded | 1,128 | 1,114 | 21.2 | 21.5 | 59.9 | 50.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| X | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
| Limits | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 450 | N/A | 650 | 450 | ~12 | ~5 |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Empty mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
| Klimov VK-1 | 1 | 3,868 kg | 223 kg/m2 | |||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | ||||
| Weight (each) | Type | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 31m fuel | ||
| 892 kg | Centrifugal-flow turbojet | 4,209 kg | 4,625 kg | 5,041 kg | 5,485 kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | |||||
| Condition | 100% | WEP | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 31m fuel | MTOW |
| Stationary | 2,450 kgf | N/A | 0.58 | 0.53 | 0.49 | 0.45 |
| Optimal | 2,450 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.58 | 0.53 | 0.49 | 0.45 |
Survivability and armour
- 60 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
- 16 mm Steel plates behind the pilot.
- 10 mm Steel plate in the nose.
Modifications and economy
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It is recommended to prioritize performance modification and 37mm belts over other modifications.
Armaments
Offensive armament
The MiG-17 is armed with:
- 1 x 37 mm N-37D cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
- 2 x 23 mm NR-23 cannons, nose-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
Suspended armament
The MiG-17 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 2 x 250 kg OFAB-250-270 bombs (500 kg total)
- 16 x S-5K rockets
- 16 x S-5M rockets
- 2 x S-21 rockets
Usage in battles
The MiG-17 should be played like its predecessors, the MiG-15s. In 1v1 situations, the -17 will easily win if played correctly, and due to its superior flight characteristics it is easier to win fights against multiple enemies. You have the upper hand in the initial dogfight, as your great turn will allow you to get on their 6 without much difficulty. However, in a prolonged engagement the chances of you losing increase due to your heavier weight and good, yet not spectacular energy retention. If the player is uncomfortable with dogfighting, the MiG-17 can also be a very effective boom-and-zoom fighter.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Excellent acceleration and speed in dives
- Excellent climb rate, almost same as the MiG-15bis
- Guns will tear even the heaviest of bombers into shreds with an accurate burst
- Very good maneuverability at low to medium speeds
- More maneuverable at high speeds than the MiG-15s
- Excellent energy retention, but still loses some speed when turning hard
- If you airbrake enemies should struggle to make you overshoot
- Performs well at altitude when compared to aircraft such as the F-86F Sabres and the Hunter F.1
- Can safely reach a speed of 1,150 km/h (IAS) and up to Mach 1.10 when diving
- If you do NOT ROLL while you are turning, its hard to break your wings in a turn
- Very similar to the MiG-15bis, meaning similar play styles
Cons:
- Roll rate is not on par with others in this tier
- Poor fuel options (8 or 20 minutes)
- Armament difficult to use (low velocities, low ammo and two different trajectories)
- Mediocre acceleration in speeds between 800 - 1,100 km/h
- Acceleration and energy retention makes defensive fighting harder as you might overshoot targets
- Poor forward visibility in simulator, as a large canopy frame and the gunsight block the top and botto
- Lacks radar rangefinder for the gyro sight
- Engine eventually might overheat when operated over 96% throttle
- Does not handle damage very well
History
The Korean war showed that the MiG-15 and MiG-15bis fighters were able to battle any aerial opponent at least on equal terms. The MiG-17 was a further development of the MiG-15 design that had proven itself so well. It was decided to increase the aircraft's speed by increasing the sweep of the wing and the fuselage being lengthened to maintain the centre of gravity. The MiG-15 and MiG-17 show almost no differences at first glance. The prototype of the MiG-17 was even called the MiG-15bis45. However, only the frontal parts of the fuselage are the same, from the air intake to the wing, if you don't count the landing headlight that had been moved to the left wing and some minor details.
These aircraft are different in every other way. It is easy to see the main differences when you look from above. By comparing the side profiles, you can see that in addition to the difference in fuselage length there are differences in the tail fin and an additional ventral fin which allows you to immediately tell the MiG-17 apart from the MiG-15. The upper part of the fins and the rudders of the aircraft are different, the juncture between the fin and the stabilizer fin also differs, but this can only be seen close up. The wing sweep of the stabilizer fin was also increased and there were also changes to elevators. The air brakes also differ in shape and size. The depth of the housing was decreased, so a cigar-shaped cowl was created to hide the cylinder. There were very significant changes to the wing. Apart from an increased wing sweep, a leading edge break appeared and the tips became rounder, which helps differentiate the aircraft when looking at them from above or below. While the MiG-15 had two aerodynamic ridges on the top surface of its wings, the MiG-17 had three.
The change in the shape of the wing led to appropriate changes in the construction of the flaps. The new geometry of the main landing gear legs required for the cover to be altered. The structure of the canopy also saw some changes. However, the first versions of the MiG-17 had the same canopies as the MiG-15bis. Apart from changes to the design of the canopy framing (which is not actually that noticeable from afar), a rear-view mirror was introduced that would allow the aircraft to be recognized from further away. There were no significant changes to the cockpit. Overall, the MiG-17 looks even more aesthetically pleasing and streamlined than its predecessor.
Media
- Skins
- Images
- Videos
See also
External links
| Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau (Микоя́н и Гуре́вич Опытное конструкторское бюро) | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | MiG-3-15 · MiG-3-15 (BK) · MiG-3-34 |
| I-225 | |
| Jet fighters | MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) |
| MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh | |
| MiG-17 | |
| MiG-19PT | |
| MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis | |
| MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD | |
| MiG-27M · MiG-27K | |
| MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT | |
| Export/Licensed | ␗MiG-9 · ␗MiG-9 (l) |
| ◊MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-15bis · J-2* | |
| MiG-17AS · ◔MiG-17PF · J-4* · Shenyang F-5* | |
| ◊MiG-19S · J-6A* | |
| ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◊MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21MF · ▄MiG-21bis · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" · ▄MiG-21 Bison · J-7II** | |
| ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA | |
| ◔MiG-29 · ◊MiG-29 · ◄MiG-29G | |
| *Licensed and domesticated with Chinese designations. | |
| **Unlicensed, reverse-engineered and domesticated with Chinese designations. | |
| See Also | Shenyang · Chengdu |
| USSR jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Bereznyak-Isayev | BI |
| Yakovlev | Yak-15 · Yak-15P · Yak-17 · Yak-23 · Yak-28B · Yak-30D · Yak-38 · Yak-38M · Yak-141 |
| Mikoyan-Gurevich | MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l) · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh · MiG-17 · MiG-17AS · MiG-19PT |
| MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis | |
| MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD · MiG-27M · MiG-27K | |
| MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT | |
| Lavochkin | La-174 · La-15 · La-200 |
| Sukhoi | Su-9 · Su-11 |
| Su-7B · Su-7BKL · Su-7BMK · Su-17M2 · Su-17M4 · Su-22M3 | |
| Su-24M | |
| Su-25 · Su-25BM · Su-25K · Su-25T · Su-25SM3 · Su-39 | |
| Su-27 · Su-27SM | |
| Su-34 | |
| Ilyushin | IL-28 · IL-28Sh |
| Tupolev | Tu-14T |
