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Su-11
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Description

The Su-11 is a premium rank V Soviet jet fighter with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB/SB) and 7.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Ixwa Strike".

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 0 m940 km/h
Turn time24 s
Max altitude13 000 m
Engine2 х A.Lulka TR-1
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight7 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 917 892 13000 24.2 25.7 25.3 25.3 900
Upgraded 958 940 23.8 24.0 41.4 33.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1025 420 558 529 380 ~11 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 480 < 580 < 660 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
A.Lulka TR-1 2 4,752 kg 297 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 35m fuel
760 kg Axial-flow turbojet 5,306 kg 5,805 kg 6,331 kg 6,598 kg 6,650 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 35m fuel MTOW
Stationary 1,306 kgf N/A 0.49 0.45 0.41 0.40 0.39
Optimal 1,306 kgf
(0 km/h)
N/A 0.49 0.45 0.41 0.40 0.39

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 025 km/h
Gear420 km/h
  • 6 mm steel above pilot's head
  • 12 mm steel headrest
  • 12 mm steel behind pilot
  • 15 mm steel behind frontal fuel tank
  • 15 mm steel in front of armament
  • 90 mm bulletproof glass in front of pilot
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks (1 cleaver-shaped one behind pilot, 1 cleaver-shaped one in front of pilot)

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 590 Sl icon.png
RB2 590 Sl icon.png
SB10 590 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts570 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 500 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 340 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 80 / 230 / 300 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 190 / 190 / 190 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
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Compressor
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New boosters
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Wings repair
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G-suit
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Engine
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Airframe
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Cover
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ns23_belt_pack
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FAB-250
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ns37_belt_pack
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ns23_new_gun
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FAB-500
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n37_new_gun

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition40 rounds
Fire rate400 shots/min
Weapon 22 x 23 mm NS-23 cannon
Ammunition200 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min
Main articles: N-37 (37 mm), NS-23 (23 mm)

The Su-11 is armed with:

  • 1 x 37 mm N-37 cannon, nose-mounted (40 rpg)
  • 2 x 23 mm NS-23 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 200 total)

Suspended armament

Number of setups3
List of setups
Setup 11 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb
(ammunition: 0 rounds)
Setup 22 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb
Setup 31 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb

The Su-11 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 1 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bomb (250 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-46 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 1 x 500 kg FAB-500M-46 bomb (500 kg total)

Usage in battles

The Su-11 can easily be one of the best aircraft at its battle rating. Her primary strength is her excellent acceleration, relative to other contemporary jets. She has excellent energy retention (ER) and average to good manoeuvring energy retention (MER).

In general, the best tactic with the Su-11 is to play to her strengths, as with any vehicle; In the Su-11's case, particularly her acceleration and ER can be exploited. Take off from the airfield, and level out quickly. Don't bother gaining initial altitude, jet engines particularly early jet engines, accelerate better at sea level. Turn at least 30 degrees away from the center of the map, and build up speed. It's recommended to build up to about 725 km/h - 805 km/h (450 mph to 500 mph), then place the aircraft into a 20-30 degree zoom climb (steady-state climbing is possible in this aircraft, but like most early jets, zoom climbing is most efficient).

This will take the Su-11 well above 3.5 km, usually closer to 5 km. Dive on unsuspecting enemies, particularly aircraft that don't manoeuvre well, and once they are destroyed, begin a 20-30 degree zoom climb to regain your lost altitude. The energy retention is excellent, and you can typically regain all your lost altitude, if not gain on top of it. Usually enemies on the Su-11 tail can be out-accelerated, which causes most players to lose interest in engaging and break off the chase, even if their aircraft's top speed is higher than the Su-11.

Manoeuvrability is average, but certainly not poor. The Su-11's manoeuvring energy retention is excellent, If forced to dogfight and the opponent vehicle has similar manoeuvrability, simply drain them of their energy with long, sweeping movements.

While the Su-11's armament packs a punch, excellent marksmanship is an absolute necessity, given the low ammo pool of only 200 23 mm rounds and 40 37 mm rounds. In addition it has a relatively low rate of fire (on both cannons). The rounds are also relatively low velocity (especially the 37 mm round). However, the rounds are extremely powerful, with the 37 mm round able to destroy heavy bombers with a couple of well placed hits, and the 23 mm round able to destroy lighter aircraft with 1-2 hits. The best option is to get as close as possible before opening fire to ensure that the enemy plane gets knocked out.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent manoeuvrability
  • Good acceleration for an early jet
  • Fast aircraft
  • Heavy armament

Cons:

  • Engines overheat quickly at 100% power
  • Low ammo pool
  • Low rate of fire, relatively low velocity (particularly the 37 mm) cannons

History

The Su-9 was an early Soviet jet fighter built using knowledge and parts derived from the German Me 262 jet fighter.

The Su-11 was a project in 1946 to mount Yakovlev versions of the RD-10F engines in the Su-9 jet fighter. After testing the Su-9 in the wind tunnel, it was found that engines mounted in the wings rather than underneath reduced drag and that the wingtips also needed a redesign. As such, the Su-11 received a completely redesigned wing and before completion it was also received the Lyulka TR-1 turbojet engines. The two engines produced 2,865 lbf of thrust each for 5930 lbf of thrust total.

The Su-11 first flew on 28 May 1947, demonstrating a maximum speed of 940 km/h at sea level. Unfortunately, the design had a bad longitudinal stability and even modifications to the wing engine nacelles did not solve the issue. Because of these issues, the Su-11 programme was cancelled and did not enter production.

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


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