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! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
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| AP || 13 || 12 || 7 || 3 || 2 || 0
 
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| AP-I || 13 || 12 || 7 || 3 || 2 || 0
 
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| AP-T || 9 || 8 || 6 || 3 || 0 || 0
 
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| Ball || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0
 
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| IT || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
 
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| T || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0
 
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>mass (kg)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay
 
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
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| AP || 783 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| AP-I || 905 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| AP-T || 905 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| Ball || 847 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| IT || 771 || 0.01 || 0 || 3 || 0 || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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| T || 847 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 56° || 65°
 
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=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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Due to the low penetration this weapon it is largely ineffective against enemy armour (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thing armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open-topped vehicles and SPAA, which can be fairly common at some places in the wide range of battle ratings this gun is found at. Another function for this gun is rangefinding, as well as marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players (shooting at their gun sight). You can use the gun against aircraft however it does minimal damage and is usually co-axially mounted, making hitting aircraft difficult.
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Due to the low penetration this weapon it is largely ineffective against enemy armour (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thin armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open-topped vehicles and SPAA, which can be fairly common at some places in the wide range of battle ratings this gun is found at. Another function for this gun is rangefinding, as well as marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players (shooting at their gun sight). You can use the gun against aircraft, though it does minimal damage and is usually co-axially mounted, it largely an afterthought rather than an effective AA solution.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Better penetration than other co-axial machine guns found on British tanks
 
* Better penetration than other co-axial machine guns found on British tanks
 
* Decent rate of fire
 
* Decent rate of fire
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* No particularity weak shells in ammo belt unlike other co-axial machine guns
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* No particularity weak cartridges in ammo belt unlike other co-axial machine guns
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Low penetration
 
* Low penetration
 
* Low damage
 
* Low damage
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File:Weapon BESA 7.92mm.jpg|<small>BESA machine guns on the Light AA Mk I</small>
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;''
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''

Latest revision as of 00:08, 10 December 2023

The BESA inside of the Centurion Mk 1 turret

Description

The BESA machine gun is a British 7.92 mm machine gun, it is a license-built variant of the Czechoslovakian ZB-53 machine gun. The BESA was the British Army's standard tank-mounted machine gun from the start of WW2 until the 1950s, being withdrawn from service in the late 1960s. As such in the game it is by far the most ubiquitous machine gun in the British ground forces tree, featuring as the co-axial or commander weapon for most tanks from rank I to rank IV. Being only a 7.92 mm machine gun, it is largely ineffective against all but the most weakly armoured, or open cabin, vehicles.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

The BESA machine gun is fitted as the co-axial (and sometimes commander's) weapon on nearly every British tank from rank I to rank IV.

The Light AA Mk I is the only British tank to use the weapon as its primary armament.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Light tanks 
AEC  AEC Mk II
Crusader  Crusader "The Saint" · Crusader II · Crusader III · ▄Crusader Mk.II
Daimler  Daimler Mk II
SARC  SARC MkVI (2pdr) · SARC MkVI (6pdr)
Tetrarch  Tetrarch I
Medium tanks 
Centurion  Centurion Mk 1 · Centurion Mk.2 · Centurion Mk 3 · Strv 81 (RB 52) · ▄Strv 81 (RB 52)
Comet  Comet I · Comet I "Iron Duke IV" · ▄Comet I
Cromwell  Cromwell I · Cromwell V (RP-3) · Cromwell V
Valentine  Valentine I · Valentine XI
Heavy tanks 
Caernarvon  Caernarvon
Churchill  Churchill I · Churchill III · ▀Pz.Kpfw. Churchill · Churchill VII · Churchill Crocodile · Churchill NA75 · Black Prince
Excelsior  Excelsior
Matilda  Matilda III · Matilda Hedgehog
TOG  TOG II
Tank destroyers  Tortoise
SPAA  Light AA Mk I

General info

The BESA machine gun performs slightly better than other British co-axial machine guns, with the same rate of fire as guns like the L3A1 (7.62 mm) and L8A1 (7.62 mm), but marginally better penetration.

Available ammunition

When fitted as a secondary machine gun (usually co-axially) the BESA can only be equipped with one ammo belt consisting of two Armour-Piercing Incendiary (AP-I) bullets, followed by one Armour-Piercing Tracer (AP-T) bullet. Neither bullet has much penetration (up to 13 mm).

  • Default: AP-I · AP-I · AP-T

When fitted as the primary armament on the Light AA Mk I the BESA gains several different belts. These are:

  • Default: Ball · T · IT
  • Universal: AP · T · IT · Ball
  • API-T: IT · IT · AP · T
  • AP-T: AP · AP · IT · T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
AP-I 8 8 6 3 2 0
AP-T 9 8 6 3 0 0
T 5 4 2 1 0 0
Ball 5 4 2 1 0 0
IT 3 3 3 3 3 3
AP 13 12 7 3 2 0
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AP-I 905 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
AP-T 905 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
T 847 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
Ball 847 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°
IT 771 0.01 0 3 0 47° 56° 65°
AP 783 0.01 - - - 47° 56° 65°

Comparison with analogues

The BESA performs favourably to the L3A1, L8A1, and L8A2 found on later British tanks. It has the same rate of fire as these weapons but better penetration. It has slightly lower rate of fire than the L37A1 and L37A2, but slightly higher penetration.

Usage in battles

Due to the low penetration this weapon it is largely ineffective against enemy armour (although you may be able to penetrate some vehicles with extremely thin armour). The gun is primarily useful for killing exposed crew members in open-topped vehicles and SPAA, which can be fairly common at some places in the wide range of battle ratings this gun is found at. Another function for this gun is rangefinding, as well as marking enemy vehicles and obscuring the view of enemy players (shooting at their gun sight). You can use the gun against aircraft, though it does minimal damage and is usually co-axially mounted, it largely an afterthought rather than an effective AA solution.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Better penetration than other co-axial machine guns found on British tanks
  • Decent rate of fire
  • No particularity weak cartridges in ammo belt unlike other co-axial machine guns

Cons:

  • Low penetration
  • Low damage
  • Lower rate of fire than L37A1 and L37A2

History

The BESA machine gun it is a license-built variant of the Czechoslovakian ZB-53 machine gun. The British War Office ordered the weapon in 1938, and production began in 1939. In the UK the gun was produced by the Birmingham Small Arms Company, the initialism of which (BSA) gave the gun its name. The ZB-53 had been designed to use the German 7.92 × 57 mm Mauser round, and the British originally intended to modify it in order to use the same .303 (7.7 mm) ammunition as other British rifles and machine guns; however it was later decided that converting the gun would take more time and effort than maintaining the original calibre and procuring the 7.92 mm ammunition. A side effect of this was that the British were able to utilise captured German 7.92 mm ammunition.

From 1939 the BESA machine gun became the standard British machine gun for tanks and other armoured vehicles (hence the widespread presence in the British tank tree), replacing the Vickers machine gun. In June 1940 the improved BESA Mk II became available, featuring a selector to allow the operator to choose between a higher rate of fire for close combat or focused targets and a lower rate of fire for long-range combat or area targets. Several further versions of the BESA were produced up until 1966. The early models of the BESA were deemed obsolete in 1951, with later model guns remaining in service until the late 1960s.

Media

Images

  • BESA machine guns on the Light AA Mk I

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links


Britain and USA anti-aircraft guns
7.92 mm  BESA
12.7 mm  M2HB
20 mm  GAI C01 · M168 · Oerlikon Mk.II · Polsten
25 mm  GAU-12U
30 mm  HSS 831L
35 mm  GA-35
37 mm  M1A2
40 mm  Bofors L/60 · Dual Automatic Gun M2 · M266
  Foreign:
23 mm  ZU-23 (USSR)
35 mm  Oerlikon KDA (Swiss)

Tank machine guns
USA 
7.62 mm  M37 · M60D · M73 · M240 · M1919A4 · Mk.52
12.7 mm  FN M3P · M2HB · M80 · M85
Germany 
5.56 mm  MG4
7.62 mm  C6 · MG3A1
7.92 mm  MG13 Dreyse · MG34 · MG37(t) · MG42
12.7 mm  S.MG.50
USSR 
7.62 mm  DT · PKMB · PKT · PKTM · RP-46 · SGMT
12.7 mm  DK · DShK · 6P49 · NSVT
14.5 mm  KPVT
Britain 
7.62 mm  Browning MG4 · L3A1 · L8A1 · L8A2 · L37A1 · L37A2 · L94A1
7.7 mm  Vickers
7.92 mm  BESA
12.7 mm  L21A1
Japan 
6.5 mm  Type 91
7.62 mm  Type 74
7.7 mm  Type 97
12.7 mm  Type 60 (B)
China 
5.8 mm  QJT
7.62 mm  Type 55 · Type 59 · Type 86
12.7 mm  QJC88A · Type 54
14.5 mm  QJG02
Italy 
7.62 mm  Beretta MG42/59 · FN MAG 60-40
8 mm  34/40M · Breda Mod. 38
13.2 mm  Breda Model 31
France 
7.5 mm  AAT-52 · MAC 31
7.62 mm  A-A-F1N
8 mm  Hotchkiss Mle 1914
Sweden 
6.5 mm  ksp m/14-29
7.62 mm  ksp 39 C · ksp 58 · ksp 94
8 mm  ksp m/36 · ksp m/39B
12.7 mm  ksp 88

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