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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Winged Lions"]]. This is the only "Spitfire" in the French Tech-Tree.
  
 
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The Seafire LF Mk.III has little protection: your enemies' guns will nearly always hit something vital. The pilot is protected in the rear by a 7 mm steel plate covering the seat, but this is not enough to stop 12.7 mm and 20 mm AP rounds, the kind you will most commonly be facing. The pilot is protected from head-ons by a sloped 38 mm pane of bulletproof glass, and a small amount of armour and fuel tanks in the nose.
  
 
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== History ==
 
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France received 65 Seafire Mk IIIs, 24 of these being deployed on the carrier ''Arromanches'' in 1948 when it sailed for Vietnam to fight in the First Indochina War, the Seafires operating from land bases and from ''Arromanches'' on ground attack missions against the Viet Minh before being withdrawn from combat operations in January 1949. After returning to European waters, the Seafire units were re-equipped with Seafire XVs but these were quickly replaced by Grumman F6F Hellcats from 1950.
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They were used by the 1F, 12F flotillas, and the 1S, 2S, 3S, 4S, 11S, and 54S squadrons.
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These planes had the reputation of being very unstable in flight and on landing. Most of the losses of these aircraft were due to accidents during landings. Planes flipped over, breaking their engine blocks, or ripping their rear fuselages off. Due to the lack of spare parts, these planes were gradually cannibalized, down to the very last one.  
  
 
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Revision as of 10:13, 21 February 2022

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This page is about the fighter Seafire LF Mk.III (France). For the British version, see Seafire LF Mk.III. For other versions, see Spitfire (Family).
▄Seafire LF Mk.III
seafire_mk3_france.png
GarageImage Seafire LF Mk.III (France).jpg
▄Seafire LF Mk.III
France flag.png France
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.0 5.0 5.0
Class:
Research:46 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:155 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game

Description

The ▄Seafire LF Mk.III is a rank IV French fighter with a battle rating of 5.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions". This is the only "Spitfire" in the French Tech-Tree.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Max speed
at 3 963 m592 km/h
Turn time16 s
Max altitude10 500 m
EngineRolls-Royce Merlin-55M
TypeInline
Cooling systemWater
Take-off weight3 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 3,963 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 561 541 10500 17.2 17.8 14.6 14.6 340
Upgraded 627 592 15.7 16.2 26.9 19.5

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
760 270 N/A N/A 230 ~10 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 321 < 400 < 350 > 500

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural760 km/h
Gear270 km/h

The Seafire LF Mk.III has little protection: your enemies' guns will nearly always hit something vital. The pilot is protected in the rear by a 7 mm steel plate covering the seat, but this is not enough to stop 12.7 mm and 20 mm AP rounds, the kind you will most commonly be facing. The pilot is protected from head-ons by a sloped 38 mm pane of bulletproof glass, and a small amount of armour and fuel tanks in the nose.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 034 → 2 631 Sl icon.png
RB4 794 → 6 203 Sl icon.png
SB6 713 → 8 686 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications40 600 Rp icon.png
78 500 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training45 000 Sl icon.png
Experts155 000 Sl icon.png
Aces820 Ge icon.png
Research Aces440 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
80 / 200 / 400 % Sl icon.png
160 / 160 / 160 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg303_belt_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods ammo.png
hispano_belt_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
bmg303_new_gun
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
hispano_mk2_new_gun
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
175 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods gun camora mod.png
Mk.II year 1942
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods gun camora mod.png
Mk.II year 1943
Research:
4 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 12 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon
Ammunition240 rounds
Fire rate600 shots/min
Weapon 24 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun
Ammunition1 400 rounds
Fire rate1 000 shots/min
Main articles: Hispano Mk.II (20 mm), Browning (7.7 mm)

The Seafire LF Mk.III (France) is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
  • 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

- Excellent maneuverability

- The motor does not overheat too much

Cons:

- Poor mid and high altitude performance

- Slower than nearly all opponents

- Little ammo for the 20mm, the 7.7 are useless at his rank. No bombs or rockets.

- Outperformed by most other fighters at its tier

History

France received 65 Seafire Mk IIIs, 24 of these being deployed on the carrier Arromanches in 1948 when it sailed for Vietnam to fight in the First Indochina War, the Seafires operating from land bases and from Arromanches on ground attack missions against the Viet Minh before being withdrawn from combat operations in January 1949. After returning to European waters, the Seafire units were re-equipped with Seafire XVs but these were quickly replaced by Grumman F6F Hellcats from 1950.

They were used by the 1F, 12F flotillas, and the 1S, 2S, 3S, 4S, 11S, and 54S squadrons.

These planes had the reputation of being very unstable in flight and on landing. Most of the losses of these aircraft were due to accidents during landings. Planes flipped over, breaking their engine blocks, or ripping their rear fuselages off. Due to the lack of spare parts, these planes were gradually cannibalized, down to the very last one.

Media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZkupimhN8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7QeE42BV6M

See also

External links

Supermarine
Spitfires 
Merlin engine  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb
  Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop
  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
  Spitfire LF Mk IX · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc
Griffon engine  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Export  ▄Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · ▃Spitfire LF Mk IXc · ▂Spitfire Mk IXc · Spitfire Mk IXc · Spitfire Mk.IX (CW) · Weizman's Spitfire LF Mk.IXe · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Seafires  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Export  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III
Jet fighters  Attacker FB 1 · Attacker FB.2 · Scimitar F Mk.1 · Swift F.1 · Swift F.7
Hydroplanes  Walrus Mk.I

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900
Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51

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