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+ | | image = <!-- File:Weapon_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg --> | ||
+ | | title = {{PAGENAME}} | ||
+ | | MG-calibre = 7.92 | ||
+ | | Belt-capacity = | ||
+ | | RoF = 1,150 | ||
+ | | MG-velocity = 855 - 905 | ||
+ | | MG-max-pen = 13 | ||
+ | }} | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
− | <!--''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''--> | + | <!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' --> |
− | Named MG 17 to fool the allies to | + | Named MG 17 to fool the allies to believing it was a late-war design thus not being in violation of the Treaty of Versailles that prohibited the development of machine guns. |
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | === Vehicles equipped with this weapon === | ||
<!-- ''List out vehicles that are equipped with the weapon.'' --> | <!-- ''List out vehicles that are equipped with the weapon.'' --> | ||
{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}} | {{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}} | ||
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{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}} | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}} | ||
− | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 A | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 A}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109a_1|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 F | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 B}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109b_2|short}} |
− | {{ | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 E}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109e-1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109e-3|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109e-4|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109e-3_japan|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109e-7|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line|He 51}}{{Specs-Link|he51a1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51b1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51b_2w}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51c1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51c1_late}} | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 F}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4_usa|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109f-4_trop|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line|He 100}}{{Specs-Link|he_100d_1}} | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 109 G}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-2_romania|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-2_hungary|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-109g-2|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line|He 112}}{{Specs-Link|he_112b_0}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link| | + | {{Navigation-Line|Fw 190 A}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-4|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5_cannons|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5|Fw 190 A-5/U12}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190a-5_japan|short}} |
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Fw 190 C}}{{Specs-Link|fw-190c|short}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|He 51}}{{Specs-Link|he51a1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51b1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51b_2w|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51c1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he51c1_late|short}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|He 100}}{{Specs-Link|he_100d_1|short}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|He 112}}{{Specs-Link|he_112b_0|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|a7he1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he_112b_1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he_112b_2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|he_112v_5|short}} | ||
+ | |||
{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Twin-engine fighters'''}} | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Twin-engine fighters'''}} | ||
− | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 110}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110c-6}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110c-4}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110f-2}} | + | {{Navigation-Line|Bf 110}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110c-6|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110c-4|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|bf-110f-2|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line|Do | + | {{Navigation-Line|Do 17}}{{Specs-Link|do_17z_7|short}} |
− | {{ | + | {{Navigation-Line|Do 217}}{{Specs-Link|do_217j_1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217j_2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217n_1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|do_217n_2|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-Line| | + | {{Navigation-Line|Ju 88}}{{Specs-Link|ju-88c-6|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Attackers'''}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania_italy| | + | {{Navigation-Line|Me 410}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|me-410a-1_u2|short}} |
− | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Bombers'''}}{{Specs-Link|he-111h-6}} (Defensive){{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-123a-1}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87b-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87d-3}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87d-3_italy}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87r-2}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87r-2_italy}} | + | |
+ | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Attackers'''}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-2_romania_italy|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-129b-3|short}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Navigation-First-Line|'''Bombers'''}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Fw 189}}{{Specs-Link|fw-189a-1|short}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|He 111}}{{Specs-Link|he-111h-6|short}} (Defensive) | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Hs 123}}{{Specs-Link|hs-123a-1|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|hs-123a-1_china|short}} | ||
+ | {{Navigation-Line|Ju 87}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87b-2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87d-3|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87d-3_italy|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87r-2|short}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|ju-87r-2_italy|short}} | ||
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{{Navigation-End}} | {{Navigation-End}} | ||
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''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' | ''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.'' | ||
− | === Available | + | === Available ammunition === |
− | <!--''Describe the shells that are available for the | + | <!-- ''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).'' --> |
+ | * '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}} | ||
+ | * '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}} | ||
+ | * '''Tracers:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} | ||
+ | * '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}} | ||
+ | * '''Default (turret):''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|Ball|Omni-purpose}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AI|Adjustment incendiary}} | ||
+ | *'''Armored targets (turret):''' {{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP|Armour-piercing}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} | ||
+ | * '''AP-T (turret):''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}} | ||
− | + | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | |
− | + | ! colspan="7" | Penetration statistics | |
− | + | |- | |
− | + | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | |
+ | ! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)''' | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AI || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP || 13 || 12 || 7 || 2 || 1 || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP-I || 10 || 9 || 7 || 4 || 1 || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP-T || 13 || 12 || 7 || 2 || 1 || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Ball || 5 || 4 || 2 || 1 || 0 || 0 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
+ | ! colspan="10" | Shell details | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal | ||
+ | ! colspan="3" | Ricochet | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! 0% !! 50% !! 100% | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AI || 870 || 0.0109 || N/A || 3.0 || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65° | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP || 855 || 0.0115 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65° | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP-I || 880 || 0.0102 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65° | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | AP-T || 905 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65° | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | Ball || 855 || 0.01 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +2.0° || 47° || 60° || 65° | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
− | <!--''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns | + | <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' --> |
* [[MG 15 (7.92 mm)]] | * [[MG 15 (7.92 mm)]] | ||
* [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)]] | * [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)]] | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
− | <!--''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against | + | <!-- ''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.'' --> |
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In the game, this machine gun works as all of the other rifle-calibre machine guns allowing for easier learning of ballistics. | In the game, this machine gun works as all of the other rifle-calibre machine guns allowing for easier learning of ballistics. | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
− | <!--'' | + | <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.'' --> |
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
* High muzzle velocity | * High muzzle velocity | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
− | ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of | + | ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | * ''reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;'' | ||
* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' | * ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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== External links == | == External links == | ||
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;'' | * ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;'' |
Revision as of 15:39, 11 October 2019
Contents
Description
Named MG 17 to fool the allies to believing it was a late-war design thus not being in violation of the Treaty of Versailles that prohibited the development of machine guns.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Vehicles equipped with this weapon | |
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Fighters | |
Bf 109 A | Flegel's Bf 109 A |
Bf 109 B | Bf 109 B-1 |
Bf 109 E | Bf 109 E-1 · Bf 109 E-3 · Bf 109 E-4 · ▅Bf 109 E-7 · Bf 109 E-7/U2 |
Bf 109 F | Bf 109 F-1 · Bf 109 F-2 · Bf 109 F-4 · ▃Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop |
Bf 109 G | Bf 109 G-2 · ◐Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-2/trop |
Fw 190 A | Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U12 · ▅Fw 190 A-5 |
Fw 190 C | Fw 190 C |
He 51 | He 51 A-1 · He 51 B-1 · He 51 B-2/H · He 51 C-1 · He 51 C-1/L |
He 100 | He 100 D-1 |
He 112 | He 112 B-0 · A7He1 · He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 · He 112 V-5 |
Twin-engine fighters | |
Bf 110 | Bf 110 C-6 · Bf 110 C-7 · Bf 110 F-2 |
Do 17 | Do 17 Z-7 |
Do 217 | Do 217 J-1 · Do 217 J-2 · Do 217 N-1 · Do 217 N-2 |
Ju 88 | Ju 88 C-6 |
Me 410 | Me 410 A-1 · Me 410 A-1/U2 |
Attackers | Hs 129 B-2 · Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · Hs 129 B-3 |
Bombers | |
Fw 189 | Fw 189 A-1 |
He 111 | He 111 H-6 (Defensive) |
Hs 123 | Hs 123 A-1 · ␗Hs 123 A-1 |
Ju 87 | Ju 87 B-2 · Ju 87 D-3 · ▄Ju 87 D-3 · Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 R-2 |
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
- Default: AP-T · Ball · Ball · AP-I · AI
- Universal: AP-T · AP · AI · AP-I
- Tracers: AP-T
- Stealth: AI · AP · AP · AP · AI
- Default (turret): AP-T · Ball · Ball · AP-I · AI
- Armored targets (turret): AP · AP · AP · AP-T
- AP-T (turret): AP-I · AP-T · AP-I · AP-T
Penetration statistics | ||||||
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Ammunition | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | |
AI | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 |
AP | 13 | 12 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
AP-I | 10 | 9 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 1 |
AP-T | 13 | 12 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
Ball | 5 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Shell details | |||||||||
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Ammunition | Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Normalisation at 30° from horizontal |
Ricochet | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
AI | 870 | 0.0109 | N/A | 3.0 | N/A | +2.0° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
AP | 855 | 0.0115 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +2.0° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
AP-I | 880 | 0.0102 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +2.0° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
AP-T | 905 | 0.01 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +2.0° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Ball | 855 | 0.01 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +2.0° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Comparison with analogues
Usage in battles
In the game, this machine gun works as all of the other rifle-calibre machine guns allowing for easier learning of ballistics.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- High muzzle velocity
- Common round with other machine guns
Cons:
History
Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
.
Media
An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
- references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the weapon;
- other literature.
Aircraft machine guns | |
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USA | |
7.62 mm | Browning · M134 Minigun |
12.7 mm | GAU-19 · M2 Browning · M3 Browning |
Germany | |
7.62 mm | MG3 |
7.92 mm | MG 15 · MG 17 · MG 81 |
12.7 mm | FN M3P |
13 mm | MG 131 |
USSR | |
7.62 mm | DA · GShG-7.62 · PKT · PV-1 · ShKAS |
12.7 mm | A-12.7 · Berezin UB · TKB-481 · YaK-B |
Britain | |
7.62 mm | FN 60.30 · L8A1 |
7.7 mm | Browning · Lewis · Vickers E · Vickers K |
Japan | |
7.7 mm | Te-1 · Type 89 · Type 89 'special' · Type 92 · Type 97 navy |
7.92 mm | Type 1 · Type 98 |
12.7 mm | Ho-103 · Ho-104 |
13 mm | Type 2 |
13.2 mm | Type 3 |
China | |
12.7 mm | QJK99-12.7-1 |
Italy | |
7.7 mm | Breda-SAFAT · Lewis |
7.92 mm | FN Browning |
12.7 mm | Breda-SAFAT · FN M3M · Scotti |
France | |
7.5 mm | Darne 1933 · Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 · FN Browning · MAC 1934 · MAC 1934T · Mle 33 · Mle 1923 |
7.62 mm | PKA |
7.92 mm | FN-Browning M.36 No.3 · FN-Browning M.36 No.4 |
Sweden | |
7.7 mm | FN-Browning M.36 No.3 |
8 mm | Ksp m/22 · Ksp m/22 Fh · Ksp m/22 Fv · Ksp m/22-37 R |
12.7 mm | Akan m/39A · Akan m/40 · Akan m/45 · LKk/42 |
13.2 mm | Akan m/39 · Akan m/39A |