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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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| − | * Has good | + | * Has a good roll rate |
| − | * | + | * 2 x 30 mm cannons, with a rate of 1,000 shots per minute each and full tracer ammunition with a projectile speed of 1050 m/s, form an efficient armament for aerial combat |
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* No countermeasures of any kind | * No countermeasures of any kind | ||
* No RWR or radar | * No RWR or radar | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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| − | The FFA P-16 was a prototype plane designed as an air superiority fighter and built in Switzerland by FFA Altenrhein near lake Constance. The plan was to build more than 100 jets, but two of the five prototypes crashed in lake Constance during test flights. No one was harmed, but the Swiss government decided to shut down the project. One remaining plane stands in the Flieger Flab Museum in Zurich, the other two have been scrapped. The tail number is the same as one of the prototypes had, XHB-VAD, the X standing for experimental prototype. | + | The FFA P-16 was a prototype plane designed as an air superiority fighter and built in Switzerland by FFA Altenrhein near lake Constance. The plan was to build more than 100 jets, but two of the five prototypes crashed in lake Constance during test flights. No one was harmed, but the Swiss government decided to shut down the project. One remaining plane stands in the Flieger Flab Museum in Zurich, the other two have been scrapped. The tail number is the same as one of the prototypes had, XHB-VAD, the X standing for experimental prototype. |
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| + | The plane feature Krueger Flaps wich is uncommon for fighter aircrafts | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
Latest revision as of 15:12, 28 October 2024
Contents
Description
The FFA P-16 is a premium gift rank VI German jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Dance of Dragons". The FFA P-16 was originally designed and built in Switzerland.
General info
Flight performance
Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 100 km/h
Turn time33 s
Max altitude12 000 m
EngineArmstrong Siddeley Sapphire ASSa.7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight12 t
Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.
| Characteristics | Max speed (km/h at sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
| Stock | ___ | ___ | 12000 | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | 600 |
| Upgraded | 1107 | 1100 | 31.7 | 33.0 | 80.4 | 65.0 | ||
Details
| Features | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
| _ | _ | _ | _ | _ | _ |
| Limits | ||||||
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| Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
| Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
| 0 | 450 | ___ | ___ | ___ | ~__ | ~__ |
| Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
| < ___ | < ___ | < ___ | - |
Engine performance
| Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
| _____ | _ | _,___ kg | ___ kg/m2 | |||
| Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Gross Weight | ||||
| Weight (each) | Type | _m fuel | __m fuel | __m fuel | ||
| ___ kg | ___ | _,___ kg | _,___ kg | _,___ kg | _,___ kg | |
| Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP) | |||||
| Condition | 100% | ___%/WEP | _m fuel | __m fuel | __m fuel | MGW |
| Stationary | ___ kgf | ___ kgf | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
| Optimal | ___ kgf (_ km/h) |
___ kgf (_ km/h) |
_.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
Survivability and armour
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear450 km/h
Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.
Modifications and economy
Repair cost
AB2 200 
RB4 398
SB7 083
Crew training10 000
Experts1 010 000
Aces2 600 
Research Aces2 020 000 
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
2 × 130 / 380 / 600 % 2 × 226 / 226 / 226 % | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Armaments
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| CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) | EEGS |
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Offensive armament
The FFA P-16 is armed with:
- 2 x 30 mm Hispano HS 825 cannons, nose-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
Suspended armament
Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.
| Default weapon presets | |
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Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Has a good roll rate
- 2 x 30 mm cannons, with a rate of 1,000 shots per minute each and full tracer ammunition with a projectile speed of 1050 m/s, form an efficient armament for aerial combat
- Decent CAS options
Cons:
- Subsonic
- None of the armament have CCIP
- The main guns do not have ammunition suitable for CAS
- No countermeasures of any kind
- No RWR or radar
History
The FFA P-16 was a prototype plane designed as an air superiority fighter and built in Switzerland by FFA Altenrhein near lake Constance. The plan was to build more than 100 jets, but two of the five prototypes crashed in lake Constance during test flights. No one was harmed, but the Swiss government decided to shut down the project. One remaining plane stands in the Flieger Flab Museum in Zurich, the other two have been scrapped. The tail number is the same as one of the prototypes had, XHB-VAD, the X standing for experimental prototype.
The plane feature Krueger Flaps wich is uncommon for fighter aircrafts
Media
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See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| Flug- und Fahrzeugwerke Altenrhein (FFA) | |
|---|---|
| Jet Fighters | FFA P-16 |
| Germany jet aircraft | |
|---|---|
|
Luftwaffe |
| He 162 | He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2 |
| Me 163 | Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0 |
| Ho 229 | Ho 229 V3 |
| Ar 234 | Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3 |
| Me 262 | Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a |
| Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b | |
|
LSK |
| Fighters | ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S |
| ◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" | |
| ◊MiG-29 | |
| Attackers | ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA |
| ◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4 | |
| ◊IL-28 | |
|
Luftwaffe |
| F-84 | ◄F-84F |
| F-86 | ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K |
| F-104 | ◄F-104G |
| F-4 | ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV |
| G.91 | ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4 |
| Tornado | ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1 |
| Other | Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100 |
| Ex-LSK | ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G |
|
Swiss Air Force |
| ◌Hunter F.58 · FFA P-16 | |
| Germany premium aircraft | |
|---|---|
| Fighters | He 51 B-2/H · BV 155 B-1 |
| He 112 | He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 |
| Bf 109 | Flegel's Bf 109 A · Bf 109 E-7/U2 · Bf 109 G-2 |
| Fw 190 | Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 C · Fw 190 D-13 |
| Captured | ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN · ▀Hawk H-75A-2 · ▀Yak-1B · ▀La-5FN · ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D · ▀Tempest Mk V |
| Twin-engine fighters | Bf 109 Z-1 · Ju 388 J · Ta 154 A-1 |
| Jet fighters | ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100 · ◄G.91 R/4 · FFA P-16 · ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" |
| Strike aircraft | Hs 129 B-2 (Romania) · ▀IL-2 (1942) · Bf 110 C-6 · Do 335 B-2 · He 219 A-7 · ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 |
| Bombers | Ar 196 A-3 · BV 238 · Fw 189 A-1 · Ju 87 R-2 Libya · Ju 288 C · ▀Wellington Mk Ic |
