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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
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In 1949, a plan to increase the performance of the straight-wing F-84 Thunderjet was developed. A swept-wing version was designed to increase the speed and range. At low-altitude, the speed was much better than the previous F-84E. However, overall performance was still lacklustre so the USAF wanted a better engine to improve the climb and high-altitude performance. Armstrong-Siddeley Sapphire engines were selected and eventually Curtiss-Wright would build them under license as the J65. After constant setbacks during production, deliveries finally rolled in until 1957 when over 2,000 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built. Pilots enjoyed the Thunderstreak as it was robust and flew well in turbulent conditions. However, it required a high landing speed and certain manoeuvres were far too dangerous to perform. They were gradually replaced by the F-100 Super Sabre until the [[wikipedia:Berlin_Crisis_of_1961|Berlin Crisis]] reactivated many Thunderstreaks. They would eventually find their way into the Air National Guard until the early 1970s when they were finally retired in US service.
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Introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]], the F-84F is a decent aircraft with some flaws. Although the Thunderstreak is relatively fast, it struggles to reach that speed in an acceptable amount of time. Carrying bombs also greatly diminishes the acceleration so players should carry a light fuel load to offset the weight. The six nose-mounted 12.7 mm machine guns are sufficient for ground attack, but attacking enemy aircraft can be frustrating due to the lack of sufficient stopping power. Overall, the F-84F Thunderstreak is a fairly decent strike aircraft but performance limitations and its battle rating hinder its effectiveness.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
 
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
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! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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|-
 
|-
 
! Stock
 
! Stock
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| 1,089 || 1,066 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 31.2 || 31.1 || 29.2 || rowspan="2" | 3,000
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| 1,090 || 1,067 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.7 || 30.9 || 30.7 || 28.8 || rowspan="2" | 2,000
 
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|-
 
! Upgraded
 
! Upgraded
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|1,111||1,102||26.3||28.0||45.5||38.0
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| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.5 || 28.0 || 45.9 || 38.0
 
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|-
 
|}
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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|-
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 550 || 550 || 420 || ~10 || ~3
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 533 || 515 || 417 || ~11 || ~3
 
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|-
 
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
 
! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
|-
 
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| colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-7 || 1
 
| colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-7 || 1
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|-
 
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
 
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
 
|-
 
|-
 
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel
 
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|-
 
| 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
 
| 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 7,177 kg || 7,800 kg || 8,367 kg || 8,935 kg
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| 7,177 kg || 7,838 kg || 8,368 kg || 8,935 kg
 
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|-
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
 
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
 
! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || MTOW
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 29m fuel || MTOW
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,470 kgf || N/A
 
| ''Stationary'' || 3,470 kgf || N/A
 
| 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 
| 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A
 
| 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 
| 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 
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{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Armour}}
 
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''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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The F-84F Thunderstreak has six fuel tank modules. Two are mounted within the fuselage of the aircraft meanwhile the rest are found in the wings. As usual, they are all self-sealing fuel tanks. The Thunderstreak also has two armour plates; one 8 mm steel plate that covers most of the pilot from the rear and a small 12.7 mm steel plate that covers the pilot's head from behind. In addition, the front cockpit glass is 38 mm bulletproof glass with a 61° construction angle.
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[[File:F-84F Armour layout.png|center|thumb|300x300px|Armour layout of the F-84F]]
  
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
 
=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
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! colspan="4" | [[Ballistic Computer]]
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! CCIP (Guns) !! CCIP (Rockets) !! CCIP (Bombs) !! CCRP (Bombs)
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| {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Cross}} || {{Tick}}
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}}
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 
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{{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}}
 
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{{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|HVAR}}
 
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs
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! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs
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! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs
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| || || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ||
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! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs
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! [[BLU-1 incendiary]] bombs
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! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets
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| 7 || 7 || 7 || || || 7 || 7 || 7
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! [[HVAR]] rockets
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| 2 || 2 || 2 || 6 || 6 || 2 || 2 || 2
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| colspan="9" | Maximum permissible loadout weight: 2,700 kg<br>Maximum permissible wing load: 1,350 kg<br>Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
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|-
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|}
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{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
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* 12 x HVAR rockets (inner pylons)
 
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* 12 x HVAR rockets (outer pylons)
 
 
* 24 x HVAR rockets
 
* 24 x HVAR rockets
 
* 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
 
* 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
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* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
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* 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The F-84F is capable of high speeds for its Battle Rating, but takes a very long time to get there due to slow acceleration. Thus, the pilot generally must first climb in order to reach speeds similar to those of its opponents. Due to diverse ordnance options, it is useful as a Close Air Support jet in mixed battles, or to destroy ground/naval targets and bases in Air Battles. It can be used as a boom-and-zoom fighter, perhaps after first dropping ordnance, as its powerful engine provides good energy retention. Air spawn in Realistic Air battles provides the somewhat necessary advantage for this. Its guns will be familiar from other F-84 and F-86 models, and are reasonably effective if aimed properly. However, the F-84F is not a turnfighter by any means and is a cumbersome aircraft, especially at slow speeds.
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=== Radars ===
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The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="4" | AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
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|-
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! {{Annotation|Maximum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The maximum range at which a target can be tracked}}
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! {{Annotation|Minimum<br/>Tracking<br/>Range|The range below which targets cannot be tracked by the radar}}
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! {{Annotation|Azimuth Tracking<br/>Angle|How far to each side the radar can track a target}}
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! {{Annotation|Elevation Tracking<br/>Angle|How far up and down the radar can track a target}}
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| 2,750 m || 300 m || ±9° || ±9°
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* 4 nose mounted .50 cals plus 2 near the side of the air frame making accurate shots possible.
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* 4 nose-mounted .50 cals plus 2 near the side of the airframe making accurate shots possible
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* 42 FFAR Rockets making it great for pill box hunting in Air Battles.
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* 42 FFAR rockets making it great for pillbox hunting in Air Battles
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* A lot of variety of choices for ground ordinance for ground RB.
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* A lot of variety of ordnance for ground attack
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* Gains a fair bit of speed in a steep dive.
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* All bombs can be dropped independently
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* Sitting at rank V, it retains its airspawn in air realistic battles
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Turning is below average so don't expect to last long in a dogfight with any aircraft.
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* Turning is below average so don't expect to last long in a turnfight with any aircraft
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* While turning speed is bled a lot so maintain you're speed or choose carefully on what turn you make.
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* While turning, speed is bled a lot so maintain your speed or choose carefully on what turn you make
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* Having a BR of 8.7 makes the plane an easy target since most jets will have missiles to hunt you down with.
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* Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, many of which it can have difficulty evading
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* Most jets will catch up to you due to poor acceleration even in a down tier.
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* Most jets will catch up to it due to poor acceleration
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* In a full up tier you might as well attack ground targets since most planes will out maneuver you.
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* The .50 cal MGs are underpowered for its rank
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* The FFAR rockets are placed at the wingtips, which results in lower accuracy
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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=== [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|Devblog]] ===
 
=== [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|Devblog]] ===
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In the late 1940's, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.
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In the late 1940s, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.
  
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Following its maiden flight in the early 1950's, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.
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Following its maiden flight in the early 1950s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.
  
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The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960's as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970's before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.
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The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.
  
 
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.
 
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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<gallery mode="packed" caption="F-84F Thunderstreak Devblog Images" heights="150">
 
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File:F-84F Thunderstreak WTWallpaper 001.jpg|
 
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* [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|[Devblog] F-84F Thunderstreak]]
 
* [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|[Devblog] F-84F Thunderstreak]]
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* [https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/510660-f-84f-thunderstreak/ Official data sheet - more details about the performance]
  
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{{AirManufacturer Republic}}
 
{{USA jet aircraft}}
 
{{USA jet aircraft}}

Latest revision as of 05:51, 11 November 2024

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This page is about the American strike aircraft F-84F. For other versions, see F-84 (Family).
F-84F
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GarageImage F-84F.jpg
ArtImage F-84F.jpg
F-84F
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Battle rating:
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Class:
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Description

In 1949, a plan to increase the performance of the straight-wing F-84 Thunderjet was developed. A swept-wing version was designed to increase the speed and range. At low-altitude, the speed was much better than the previous F-84E. However, overall performance was still lacklustre so the USAF wanted a better engine to improve the climb and high-altitude performance. Armstrong-Siddeley Sapphire engines were selected and eventually Curtiss-Wright would build them under license as the J65. After constant setbacks during production, deliveries finally rolled in until 1957 when over 2,000 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built. Pilots enjoyed the Thunderstreak as it was robust and flew well in turbulent conditions. However, it required a high landing speed and certain manoeuvres were far too dangerous to perform. They were gradually replaced by the F-100 Super Sabre until the Berlin Crisis reactivated many Thunderstreaks. They would eventually find their way into the Air National Guard until the early 1970s when they were finally retired in US service.

Introduced in Update "Hot Tracks", the F-84F is a decent aircraft with some flaws. Although the Thunderstreak is relatively fast, it struggles to reach that speed in an acceptable amount of time. Carrying bombs also greatly diminishes the acceleration so players should carry a light fuel load to offset the weight. The six nose-mounted 12.7 mm machine guns are sufficient for ground attack, but attacking enemy aircraft can be frustrating due to the lack of sufficient stopping power. Overall, the F-84F Thunderstreak is a fairly decent strike aircraft but performance limitations and its battle rating hinder its effectiveness.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 102 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude12 500 m
EngineWright J65-W-7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight9 t
Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,090 1,067 12500 29.7 30.9 30.7 28.8 2,000
Upgraded 1,111 1,102 26.5 28.0 45.9 38.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1187 417 533 515 417 ~11 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 630 < 600 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Wright J65-W-7 1 6,667 kg 279 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel
1,260 kg Axial-flow turbojet 7,177 kg 7,838 kg 8,368 kg 8,935 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,470 kgf N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39
Optimal 3,470 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 187 km/h
Gear417 km/h

The F-84F Thunderstreak has six fuel tank modules. Two are mounted within the fuselage of the aircraft meanwhile the rest are found in the wings. As usual, they are all self-sealing fuel tanks. The Thunderstreak also has two armour plates; one 8 mm steel plate that covers most of the pilot from the rear and a small 12.7 mm steel plate that covers the pilot's head from behind. In addition, the front cockpit glass is 38 mm bulletproof glass with a 61° construction angle.

Armour layout of the F-84F

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 713 → 3 665 Sl icon.png
RB7 937 → 10 722 Sl icon.png
SB9 950 → 13 442 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications102 100 Rp icon.png
161 400 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 200 Ge icon.png
Crew training98 000 Sl icon.png
Experts340 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces780 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 300 / 600 % Sl icon.png
202 / 202 / 202 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
4 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
9 100 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
370 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
370 Ge icon.png
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 100 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
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bmg50_belt_pack
Research:
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Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
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BLU-1
Research:
4 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk81
Research:
4 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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FRC mk.2
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 100 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 100 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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bmg50_new_gun
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
370 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
370 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Aero X-6A
Research:
8 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
8 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
480 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png

Offensive armament

Main article: M3 Browning (12.7 mm)

The F-84F is armed with:

  • 4 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

Suspended armament

The F-84F can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Hardpoints F-84F.png
250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs 1 1 1 1
500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs 1 1 1 1
1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs 1 1 1 1
2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs 1 1 1 1
BLU-1 incendiary bombs 1 1 1 1
FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets 7 7 7 7 7 7
HVAR rockets 2 2 2 6 6 2 2 2
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 2,700 kg
Maximum permissible wing load: 1,350 kg
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 24 x HVAR rockets
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

The F-84F is capable of high speeds for its Battle Rating, but takes a very long time to get there due to slow acceleration. Thus, the pilot generally must first climb in order to reach speeds similar to those of its opponents. Due to diverse ordnance options, it is useful as a Close Air Support jet in mixed battles, or to destroy ground/naval targets and bases in Air Battles. It can be used as a boom-and-zoom fighter, perhaps after first dropping ordnance, as its powerful engine provides good energy retention. Air spawn in Realistic Air battles provides the somewhat necessary advantage for this. Its guns will be familiar from other F-84 and F-86 models, and are reasonably effective if aimed properly. However, the F-84F is not a turnfighter by any means and is a cumbersome aircraft, especially at slow speeds.

Radars

The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.

AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range 		Minimum
Tracking
Range 		Azimuth Tracking
Angle 		Elevation Tracking
Angle
2,750 m 300 m ±9° ±9°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 4 nose-mounted .50 cals plus 2 near the side of the airframe making accurate shots possible
  • 42 FFAR rockets making it great for pillbox hunting in Air Battles
  • A lot of variety of ordnance for ground attack
  • All bombs can be dropped independently
  • Sitting at rank V, it retains its airspawn in air realistic battles

Cons:

  • Turning is below average so don't expect to last long in a turnfight with any aircraft
  • While turning, speed is bled a lot so maintain your speed or choose carefully on what turn you make
  • Will commonly face air-to-air missiles, many of which it can have difficulty evading
  • Most jets will catch up to it due to poor acceleration
  • The .50 cal MGs are underpowered for its rank
  • The FFAR rockets are placed at the wingtips, which results in lower accuracy

History

Devblog

In the late 1940s, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.

Following its maiden flight in the early 1950s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.

The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.

The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.

Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
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External links


Republic Aviation Corporation
Fighters  P-43A-1
  P-47D-22-RE · P-47D-25 · P-47D-28 · P-47M-1-RE · ⋠P-47M-1-RE · P-47N-15
Jet Aircraft  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
  F-105D
Export  J9 Early*
  ␗P-43A-1
  ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ␗P-47D-23-RA · ▂P-47D-27 · ␗P-47D-30 · ▄P-47D-30 · ␗F-47N-25-RE
  ◄F-84F · ▄F-84F (Italy) · ▄F-84F (France) · F-84F IAF · F-84F
  ␗F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-26-RE · ␗F-84G-31-RE
Captured  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
  *The company was named "Seversky Aircraft Company" before being renamed in 1939

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F-89  F-89B · F-89D
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F-5  F-5A · F-5C · F-5E · F-20A
F-8  F8U-2 · F-8E
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F-15  F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E
F-16  F-16A · F-16A ADF · F-16C
Other  P-59A · F2H-2 · F3D-1 · F3H-2 · F4D-1 · F11F-1
  Strike Aircraft
FJ-4  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA)
A-10  A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C
F-111  F-111A · F-111F
Other  A-6E TRAM · F-105D · F-117
  Bombers
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