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This fighter, unlike American and German fighters, is neither a gun platform nor a potent Boom & Zoom fighter. It will not be able to hold its top speed for very long due to its lacking cooling systems unless the radiator is forced open by manual engine control - which doubles or triples the WEP time when used properly (Forced 100% radiator directly after takeoff). In addition, the aircraft is unable to deploy combat flaps, which means you cannot have 'reserve manoeuvrability' to out-turn a fighter in order to retreat.  
 
This fighter, unlike American and German fighters, is neither a gun platform nor a potent Boom & Zoom fighter. It will not be able to hold its top speed for very long due to its lacking cooling systems unless the radiator is forced open by manual engine control - which doubles or triples the WEP time when used properly (Forced 100% radiator directly after takeoff). In addition, the aircraft is unable to deploy combat flaps, which means you cannot have 'reserve manoeuvrability' to out-turn a fighter in order to retreat.  
  
Try find lone opponents to face off against as the Spitfire performs best when facing enemies one at a time. Always keep an eye on the tactical map as your adversaries (mostly 109s) will travel in "wolf packs" and shoot you down. For fighting at low altitude stay above your opponent you have singled out and dive on them. If you have too much energy go for a high yo-yo manoeuvre to bleed your energy. 90% of the time you will easily out-manoeuvre anything you face so get on their tail and shoot them down. For high altitude fighting, try to get the altitude advantage and bait your opponent into a turn fight. Stay away from energy sapping manoeuvres as at high altitude this will be your death (also stay away from 1v2s, ect, as 109s will often fly together in groups).  
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Try find lone opponents to face off against as the Spitfire performs best when facing enemies one at a time. Always keep an eye on the tactical map as your adversaries (mostly 109s) will travel in "wolf packs" and shoot you down. For fighting at low altitude stay above your opponent you have singled out and dive on them. If you have too much energy go for a high yo-yo manoeuvre to bleed your energy. 90% of the time you will easily out-manoeuvre anything you face so get on their tail and shoot them down. For high altitude fighting, try to get the altitude advantage and bait your opponent into a turn fight. Stay away from energy sapping manoeuvres as at high altitude this will lead to the Mk IIb being left a sitting duck (also stay away from 1v2s and the such as enemies like the Bf 109s will often fly together in groups).  
  
 
Suggested armament load-outs are ''Tracers'' or ''Universal'' on the 7.7 mm guns and ''Stealth'' belts on the 20 mm cannons. This allows for maximal damage output. Stealth belts may be challenging for newer players, but while flying the Spitfire, there is a silver lining-
 
Suggested armament load-outs are ''Tracers'' or ''Universal'' on the 7.7 mm guns and ''Stealth'' belts on the 20 mm cannons. This allows for maximal damage output. Stealth belts may be challenging for newer players, but while flying the Spitfire, there is a silver lining-
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* [[BV_238|BV 238]] - Don't face these things from above, level, or from the rear. The massive amounts of defence armaments on this flying boat will ensure the Spitfire will be shot down. They're also massive - but not impossible to shoot down. The only reasonable chance of shooting the BV 238 down is via aiming for the cockpit at the front. The process s to do this is to get to its rear and dive down below the enemy, corkscrewing and rolling and skidding across [[I-153P|the]] sky seemingly at random and get within 600 metres (0.6 km) of it and approximately a hundred metres below. Start firing machine guns at the body, and try to get 'hit' notifications with it. Once closed into 400 metres, fire the cannons.
 
* [[BV_238|BV 238]] - Don't face these things from above, level, or from the rear. The massive amounts of defence armaments on this flying boat will ensure the Spitfire will be shot down. They're also massive - but not impossible to shoot down. The only reasonable chance of shooting the BV 238 down is via aiming for the cockpit at the front. The process s to do this is to get to its rear and dive down below the enemy, corkscrewing and rolling and skidding across [[I-153P|the]] sky seemingly at random and get within 600 metres (0.6 km) of it and approximately a hundred metres below. Start firing machine guns at the body, and try to get 'hit' notifications with it. Once closed into 400 metres, fire the cannons.
 
* [[A6M2]] - These nimble fighters may have low-velocity cannons, but they can easily out-turn you with combat flaps and stay with you in a fight. Attempt to force them into a dive and "Compress", locking up their controls, and then pull out, turn around, and engage them as they attempt to pull out of the dive you have drawn them into.
 
* [[A6M2]] - These nimble fighters may have low-velocity cannons, but they can easily out-turn you with combat flaps and stay with you in a fight. Attempt to force them into a dive and "Compress", locking up their controls, and then pull out, turn around, and engage them as they attempt to pull out of the dive you have drawn them into.
* [[I-153P]] "Chaika" - The I-153P is a 3.0 Russian biplane from the late 1930s.These small biplanes will rip you to shreds if you don't play smart. These biplanes have an insane turn rate and will effortlessly out-turn you without any flaps. They are armed with two [[ShVAK (20 mm)|SHVAK 20mm]] cannons that obliterate everything. To counter these aircraft you '''DO NOT''' engage in a turn fight, instead you [[Energy fighting|energy fight]] (a recommended tactic is to hammerhead stall) as your Spitfire will have much better energy retention, is much faster, and has an excellent climb rate.  
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* [[I-153P]] "Chaika" - The I-153P is a 3.0 Russian biplane from the late 1930s.These small biplanes will rip you to shreds if you don't play smart. These biplanes have an insane turn rate and will effortlessly out-turn you without any flaps. They are armed with two [[ShVAK (20 mm)|SHVAK 20mm]] cannons that obliterate everything. To counter these aircraft you '''Do not''' engage in a turn fight, instead you [[Energy fighting|energy fight]] (a recommended tactic is to hammerhead stall) as your Spitfire will have much better energy retention, is much faster, and has an excellent climb rate.  
  
 
===Manual Engine Control===
 
===Manual Engine Control===

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This page is about the British fighter Spitfire Mk IIb. For other uses, see Spitfire (Family).

Description

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The Spitfire Mk IIb is a rank II British fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB) and 3.0 (SB). This aircraft has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.

The Spitfire IIb is an excellent turn-fighter and has excellent climb and speed characteristics - forming a middle ground between the sheer speed of the German fighters and American fighters and the nimble agility of the Japanese machines. These aircraft, however, have little in the way of armour protection - any hits will most likely damage something, and in addition, you will be helpless if you try to head-on something. Turn-fighting is the most efficient way of using this nimble, fast fighter, and it should be used in this way most of the time. A suggested loadout is to equip Tracers on the 7.7 mm machine guns, and Stealth Belts on the 20 mm cannons - this allows maximal amounts of damaging rounds - namely the Armour-Piercing Incendiary (AP-I), High-Explosive Fragmentation Semi-Armour-Piercing Incendiary (HEF-SAPI) and High-explosive Fragmentation Incendiary (HEF-I) Rounds. The technique to use this loadout will be described in the Usage In Battles Section.

Note, however, that with the two 20 mm cannons, the Spitfire Mk IIb can also be used as a reasonable Boom & Zoom fighter with fewer results. It is recommended to maximize the use of AP-I ammo for the Spitfire Mk IIb's 7.7 mm machine guns and the HEF-I ammo for the 20 mm cannons for air damage. It is also advisable to make sure that you conserve your ammo and only fire when you have a clear target, as you'll find you'll run out of ammo very quickly. Sixty rounds of 20 mm is not a very large ammunition pool and will run out faster than the machine guns in most cases.

General info

Flight Performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,572 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
545 535 10000 16.2 16.5 14.1 16.1 300
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 4,572 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
599 571 10000 14.7 15.1 27.2 19.4 300

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
+ -
760 270 290 ~14 ~8
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 321 < 400 < 465 > 260
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
4,490 m 1,140 hp 1,311 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass in cockpit front.
  • 4 mm Steel plate in pilot's seat
  • 6-7 mm Steel plate behind the pilot.
  • Critical components located at the front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings near the fuselage
  • Cooling systems heat up ridiculously fast

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Spitfire Mk IIb is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.I cannon, wing-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
  • 4 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun, wing-mounted (350 rpg = 1,400 total)

Usage in battles

The Spitfire IIb is a very good turn-fighter, being one of the more agile aircraft in the game, and has good weapons configurations that can be used against enemies. It can reliably out-turn many of the aircraft in-game, and out-zoom-climb some as well with WEP on. It has an excellent rate of climb, and due to this and the armament, is a good bomber interceptor. Using its agility, speed, and rate of climb, it can easily run rings around enemy fighters and dispense punishing blows as well. However, there are several points to be kept in mind while flying the Spitfire Mark IIb. These are:

  1. The relatively low amount of damage that the 7.7mm Browning machine guns put out
  2. The propensity of the 20mm Hispanos to jam after prolonged firing
  3. Lack of any armour on the engine and (relatively) small amounts of windscreen glass armour
  4. Proximity of vital systems towards the front of the aircraft.
  5. Lack of combat flaps
  6. Increased efficiency of control surfaces (ailerons, elevators, rudder) at medium speeds (300km/h-450km/h) and engine efficiency at low altitudes (below 4000m)
  7. Inability to hold WEP for long before the engine begins overheating without MEC.
  8. The float carburettor, should the plane pull any negative G's, the carburettor will be fuel starved cutting power to the engine.
  9. Similarity of the muzzle velocity of the 20 mm Hispanos and the 7.7 mm Brownings (meaning that they'll have similar trajectories- this seems unimportant, but the significance will be explained shortly.)

This fighter, unlike American and German fighters, is neither a gun platform nor a potent Boom & Zoom fighter. It will not be able to hold its top speed for very long due to its lacking cooling systems unless the radiator is forced open by manual engine control - which doubles or triples the WEP time when used properly (Forced 100% radiator directly after takeoff). In addition, the aircraft is unable to deploy combat flaps, which means you cannot have 'reserve manoeuvrability' to out-turn a fighter in order to retreat.

Try find lone opponents to face off against as the Spitfire performs best when facing enemies one at a time. Always keep an eye on the tactical map as your adversaries (mostly 109s) will travel in "wolf packs" and shoot you down. For fighting at low altitude stay above your opponent you have singled out and dive on them. If you have too much energy go for a high yo-yo manoeuvre to bleed your energy. 90% of the time you will easily out-manoeuvre anything you face so get on their tail and shoot them down. For high altitude fighting, try to get the altitude advantage and bait your opponent into a turn fight. Stay away from energy sapping manoeuvres as at high altitude this will lead to the Mk IIb being left a sitting duck (also stay away from 1v2s and the such as enemies like the Bf 109s will often fly together in groups).

Suggested armament load-outs are Tracers or Universal on the 7.7 mm guns and Stealth belts on the 20 mm cannons. This allows for maximal damage output. Stealth belts may be challenging for newer players, but while flying the Spitfire, there is a silver lining-

The similar muzzle velocities of the two weapons.

The Hispano Mk. I only has 60 rounds of ammo, stored in drums. the 7.7 mm guns have 350 rounds each. In continuous firing, assuming that no jams happen at all, the Hispano's ammo will dry up quicker than the 7.7 mm Brownings. However, jams do happen and the Hispanos will jam quicker than the Brownings.

A possible strategy is akin to that used on the Hurricane Mk IV, using the cannons sparingly. Use the cannons when in the aircraft's most effective convergence range and envelope, and use the machine guns to 'sight' the cannons. Fire the machine guns tracer belts for maximum AP-I and tracer ammo, using the similar muzzle velocities to get an idea of where the cannon rounds will go, and then fire cannons once you are getting consistent hits.

Tips for using these fighters against specific nations' fighters are as follows:

Msg-info.png Disclaimer: This is a very general guide to the aircraft's capabilities. Following these to the letter without consideration of the enemy's abilities can still lead to a loss.
  • Japanese Fighters - Japanese fighters are more nimble than you. If you enter a turn-fight with them, and the pilot is smart, he or she can and will deploy their combat flaps and shoot you down. Attempt to bait them into energy-fighting manoeuvres, where your superior speed, acceleration, and climb rate will prove you to be the victor.
  • American Fighters - At this rank, you will be facing US fighters such as the F4F (the Wildcats), the P-39s (the Airacobras) and early P-47Ds (the Thunderbolts), and many other aircraft which have 0.50-calibre machine guns. These large-calibre machine guns will shred a Spitfire to pieces if given the opportunity to fire a long, sustained burst at you, such as in a head-on engagement. Lure the enemy into a turn-fight, and use your manoeuvrability to break the enemy's aiming solution at the last moment with manoeuvres such as the scissors and barrel rolls.
  • German/Italian Fighters - German and Italian fighters will usually have cannons and hold a speed advantage over you, as well as being more capable at higher speeds and altitudes. If you head-on a German fighter, you will lose over 90% of the time, unless you are lucky and manage to land critical hits on the engine and the pilot - and this is also unlikely given that the 7.7mm machine guns are not known for their armour-piercing abilities. Like with American fighters, try to lure the enemy into a turn-fight, and use your manoeuvrability to break the enemy's aiming solution at the last moment with manoeuvres such as scissors and barrel rolls.
  • Russian Fighters - Russian fighters will have cannons, large-calibre machine guns, or both, in conjunction with small-calibre guns. Again, facing these head-on is suicide, and at the low altitudes, you will meet them at, trying to use speed to out-zoom them is suicide. Turn-fighting may be optimal in these situations, but keep in mind that some Russian fighters are very, very manoeuvrable at low altitudes.
  • French Fighters - French fighters are a bit of a mixed bag, having some of the more heavily armed aircraft and some of the less heavily armed aircraft in the game. In general, however, they will have either cannons or heavy-calibre machine guns, and manoeuvrability that is slightly better than American fighters. Turn-fighting these aircraft is preferable to a head-on engagement.

Specific enemies of note include:

  • BV 238 - Don't face these things from above, level, or from the rear. The massive amounts of defence armaments on this flying boat will ensure the Spitfire will be shot down. They're also massive - but not impossible to shoot down. The only reasonable chance of shooting the BV 238 down is via aiming for the cockpit at the front. The process s to do this is to get to its rear and dive down below the enemy, corkscrewing and rolling and skidding across the sky seemingly at random and get within 600 metres (0.6 km) of it and approximately a hundred metres below. Start firing machine guns at the body, and try to get 'hit' notifications with it. Once closed into 400 metres, fire the cannons.
  • A6M2 - These nimble fighters may have low-velocity cannons, but they can easily out-turn you with combat flaps and stay with you in a fight. Attempt to force them into a dive and "Compress", locking up their controls, and then pull out, turn around, and engage them as they attempt to pull out of the dive you have drawn them into.
  • I-153P "Chaika" - The I-153P is a 3.0 Russian biplane from the late 1930s.These small biplanes will rip you to shreds if you don't play smart. These biplanes have an insane turn rate and will effortlessly out-turn you without any flaps. They are armed with two SHVAK 20mm cannons that obliterate everything. To counter these aircraft you Do not engage in a turn fight, instead you energy fight (a recommended tactic is to hammerhead stall) as your Spitfire will have much better energy retention, is much faster, and has an excellent climb rate.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable Controllable Controllable Separate Not controllable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator Offensive 7mm belts
II Compressor Airframe New 7mm MGs
III Wings Repair Engine Offensive 20mm belts
IV Engine Injection Cover New 20mm Cannons

Your priorities will be the weaponry upgrades and engine upgrades. It is suggested to research the gun upgrades first, and use engine upgrades to unlock tiers. New 7 mm MGs are not really needed since the brownings are relatively reliable. Airframe upgrades can take priority over the 7 mm MGs. However, to really make this bird sing, you need to have the radiator upgrade and all 20 mm cannon upgrades.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Absolutely amazing turn capabilities, even at low speeds
  • One of the best turners
  • Superior climb capabilities
  • Relatively good armament with a 20 mm and 7.7 mm combination arrangement
  • Very easy aircraft to control
  • Good acceleration
  • Short bursts can decimate the enemy, even bombers if aimed corectly

Cons:

  • 7.7 mm machine guns have low damage and stopping power
  • Cannons have average ammo count for this rank
  • Hispano Mk.I 20 mm has a tendency to jam under continuous firing
  • Due to aforementioned weapon disadvantages, proper trigger discipline, convergence, and knowing the effective cone of fire is key
  • Wings overload easily at high speeds
  • Low dive speed limit
  • Poor roll rate, especially at high speed
  • Poor high-altitude performance (compared to lower altitudes)
  • Engines easily overheat
  • The only position for flaps is in landing mode

History

The Supermarine Spitfire was a British fighter which served with various nations from the late 1930s up into the 1950s. It was a single-engine, all-metal, low-wing monoplane with the retractable landing gear. Various modifications served as fighters, interceptors, high-altitude fighters, fighter-bombers and reconnaissance aircraft. A total of some 20,300 Spitfires of all types were built during the war, including two-seater trainers.

In the summer of 1939, an early Spitfire Mk I was fitted with the new Rolls Royce Merlin XII engine, which had a higher output of 1175 HP and was fitted with a Coffman engine starter instead of the previous Merlin’s electrical starter system. This, combined with the Rotol variable pitch propeller which had been used on many Spitfire Mk Is would now form the powerplant of the new Spitfire Mk II, although some production models used the De Havilland propeller. The Mk II was some 6-7 mph faster than the later Spitfire Mk I, but still slower than the original Spitfires before a series of modifications increased the aircraft’s weight. As with the Mk I, the Spitfire Mk II was produced with either eight machine guns as the Spitfire Mk IIA, or two 20mm cannon and four machine guns as the Mk IIb. The earlier problems with cannon fitted to the Mk IB had now been solved by introducing a belt feed system to the weapon to replace the earlier drum, turning the cannon on its side and fitting a blister on the wing to house the new mechanism.

920 Spitfire Mk IIs entered service; 750 Mk IIA and 170 MK IIB, although fighters used in the air-sea rescue role were later designated Mk IIC. The Spitfire II quickly replaced the Spitfire I, with the older variant being relegated to use in Operational Training Units. By April 1941, RAF Fighter Command had completed re-equipping with the Mk II, although this too would soon be replaced by the Mk V.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

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Britain fighters
Fury  Fury Mk I · Fury Mk II
Nimrod  Nimrod Mk I · Nimrod Mk II
Gladiator  Gladiator Mk II · Tuck's Gladiator Mk II · Gladiator Mk IIF · Gladiator Mk IIS
Sea Gladiator  Sea Gladiator Mk I
Hurricane  Hurricane Mk I/L · Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M · Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop
Sea Hurricane  Sea Hurricane Mk IB · Sea Hurricane Mk IC
Martin-Baker  MB.5
Spitfire (early-Merlin)  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire (late-Merlin)  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire LF Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
Spitfire (Griffon)  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Seafire  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Typhoon  Typhoon Mk Ia · Typhoon Mk Ib · Typhoon Mk Ib/L
Tempest  Tempest Mk II · Tempest Mk V
Sea Fury  Sea Fury FB 11
Twin-engine fighters  Hornet Mk.I · Hornet Mk.III · Whirlwind Mk I · Whirlwind P.9
  Foreign:
Australia  ▄Boomerang Mk I · ▄Boomerang Mk II
France  ▄D.520 · ▄D.521
USA  ▄Martlet Mk IV · ▄Corsair F Mk II · ▄Hellcat Mk II · ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄Mustang Mk IA