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◊Su-22M4

◊Su-22M4

AB	RB	SB
11.7	11.3	11.0

Class:

Strike aircraft

Research:300 000

Purchase:830 000

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Description

During the 1980s, the Soviet Union and its allies began adopting upgraded variants of the Su-17 fighter-bomber, which was exported as the "Su-22" for Soviet allies. The East German air force would receive 48 of the latest Su-22M4 fighter bomber, along with 8 of the twin-seat Su-22UM-3K trainer aircraft. The German Su-22s would serve as a frontline strike aircraft for the Warsaw Pact countries, and as a primary line of attack during a possible war with NATO. The Su-22M4s would remain in East German service until the re-unification of Germany, when almost all of the German Su-22s were either scrapped or sold off as they were incompatible with NATO hardware and standards. Only a few Su-22M4s were kept and repainted in Luftwaffe liveries for briefly serving as evaluation and testing aircraft.

Introduced in Update "La Royale" as a continuation of the fighter-bomber line, following its weaker brother, the Su-22UM3K, in the tech tree, the Su-22M4 is the top-range Su-17/22 model, and is nearly identical to the Su-17M4 in the Soviet aircraft tree. This aircraft is characterized by its upgrades over its predecessor in the tree, mainly in that it can carry advanced guided ordnance such TV guided weapons in addition to the familiar laser guided ordnance. The aircraft is also no slouch in the air-to-air department either, now carrying over 250 countermeasures and the all-aspect R-60MK missiles, delivered swiftly to the enemy's location using the upgraded engine and avionics. All in all, this aircraft serves as a true titan of multirole performance for the aircraft of the German top ranks, excelling at both air to air and air to ground tasks, making it a force to be reckoned with in mixed battles.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 11 000 m2 052 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude19 500 m

EngineSaturn AL-21F-3

Type

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight19 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at 11,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	2,027	2,011	19500	27.3	27.5	167.9	161.3	850
Upgraded	___	___	19500	__._	__._	__._	__._	850

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
_	_	_	_	_	_

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
0	630	___	___	___	~__	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< ___	< ___	< ___	-

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
Saturn AL-21F-3		1	11,245 kg		438 kg/m²
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)				Max Gross Weight
Weight (each)	Type		12m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	40m fuel	Max Gross Weight
1,800 kg	Afterburning axial-flow turbojet		12,385 kg	13,102 kg	14,031 kg	15,045 kg	19,302 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition	100%	WEP	12m fuel	20m fuel	30m fuel	40m fuel	MGW
Stationary	6,400 kgf	9,039 kgf	0.73	0.69	0.64	0.60	0.47
Optimal	7,232 kgf (1,200 km/h)	13,188 kgf (1,417 km/h)	1.06	1.01	0.94	0.88	0.68

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff

Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear630 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB2 925 → 4 285

RB7 922 → 11 605

SB10 043 → 14 712

Total cost of modifications261 900

408 000

Talisman cost2 900

Crew training240 000

Experts830 000

Aces3 000

Research Aces1 140 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

80 / 320 / 600 %

238 / 238 / 238 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Compressor

Research:

7 500

Cost:

12 000

330

New boosters

Research:

9 900

Cost:

15 000

440

Engine

Research:

14 000

Cost:

22 000

620

Fuselage repair

Research:

7 500

Cost:

12 000

330

Airframe

Research:

9 900

Cost:

15 000

440

Wings repair

Research:

11 000

Cost:

17 000

490

Cover

Research:

14 000

Cost:

22 000

620

Flares/Chaff Research: 7 500 Cost: 12 000 330	NR_30_belt_pack Research: 7 500 Cost: 12 000 330	ZB-500 Research: 7 500 Cost: 12 000 330	S-8KO Research: 7 500 Cost: 12 000 330	R-60MK Research: 7 500 Cost: 12 000 330
	NR_30_new_gun Research: 9 900 Cost: 15 000 440	FAB-250 Research: 9 900 Cost: 15 000 440	S-24 Research: 9 900 Cost: 15 000 440	Kh-25 Research: 9 900 Cost: 15 000 440
G-suit Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 490	Gun pod SPPU-22-01 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 490	FAB-500 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 490	S-25 Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 490	40px Kh-29L Research: 11 000 Cost: 17 000 490
EFS Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 620	ns23_belt_pack Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 620		B-13L Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 620	40px Kh-29T Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 620

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)

Offensive armament

Main article: NR-30 (30 mm)

The Su-22M4 (Germany) is armed with:

A choice between two presets:
- 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing root-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
- 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons + 256 x countermeasures + 12 x large calibre countermeasures

Suspended armament

The Su-22M4 (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8
23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg)	1		1			1		1
100 kg OFAB-100 bombs	5		1	4	4	1		5
250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs	1		1	3	3	1		1
250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs	1		1	3	3	1		1
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs	1		1	2	2	1		1
500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs	1		1	2	2	1		1
ZB-500 incendiary bombs	1			1	1			1
S-3K rockets	7			7	7			7
S-5K rockets	32		32			32		32
S-8KO rockets	20		20			20		20
S-13OF rockets	5		5			5		5
S-24B rockets	1		1	1	1	1		1
S-25O rockets	1							1
Kh-25ML missiles	1			1	1			1
Kh-29L missiles				1	1
Kh-29T missiles				1	1
S-25L missiles	1							1
R-60MK missiles		1	2			2	1
820 l drop tanks	1			1	1			1
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 4,160 kg Maximum permissible wing load: 2,100 kg Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg

Default weapon presets

4 x 820 l drop tanks
2 x R-60MK missiles
6 x R-60MK missiles
20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
10 x 250 kg OFAB-250Sh bombs (2,500 kg total)
8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
8 x 500 kg FAB-500Sh bombs (4,000 kg total)
28 x S-3K rockets
128 x S-5K rockets
80 x S-8KO rockets
20 x S-13OF rockets
6 x S-24B rockets
2 x S-25O rockets
4 x Kh-25ML missiles
2 x Kh-29T missiles
2 x Kh-29L missiles
2 x S-25L missiles
4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
4 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

Air RB

The useable loadouts can vary significantly depending on the opponents faced in the battle. Generally, any loadout carrying 8 FAB-500s is optimal as it can destroy exactly two bases. The R-60MKs are suboptimal in most scenarios due to how susceptible they are to flares, but excel when launched in "melee" (as in: from behind, no more than 800 m away), as they tend to fly past the flares and still hit their target. That said, the Su-22M4 should not be used for dogfighting, instead you should engage distracted or vulnerable targets.

A rare but entertaining scenario is when the Su-22M4 meets subsonic aircraft like the A-10A Late or any Su-25 variant as the Kh-29T can in fact be used to engage them and can cause panic as the enemy pilot sees that their flares have no effect.

Ground RB

The Su-22M4's performance as close air support is as to be expected. The generous rocket load is recommended as even the FAB-500 bombs need relatively high precision to be effective. The laser-guided weapons are quite underwhelming as the plane lacks any form of advanced fire control to effectively target anything smaller than a cargo ship.

Where the jet really shines is with the Kh-29T, originally designed against ships, this missile can obliterate any ground target. When spawned in, immediately begin climbing at a steep angle and switch to missile view, within a few seconds you should have a clear view of the battlefield. Center the crosshair on a target and simply hold the launch button, the missile will fire the moment it acquires a lock.

However, you should be mindful of what you engage.

Do:

Enemy anti-air: The Pantsir-S1 especially is a treat for the missile's guidance system due to its large rectangular shape.
Targets far from cover: Enemies who think they are safe behind hills are especially good targets.
Helicopters: Although they can occasionally dodge the missile, it is reasonably effective while keeping you out of their AA missile range.

Don't:

Enemies under fire: While much faster than the AGM-65, it still takes time for the missile to reach the target, and them deploying smoke or being destroyed will waste it.
Enemies moving to cover: The missile cannot re-acquire a lock and will self-destruct if it loses the target.
Targets that are off-bore: Although the missile has impressive manoeuvrability, it still has limits and the plane's nose should be pointing towards the target at ranges closer than 6 km.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".

Pros:

Cons:

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Su-22M4 (Germany) from live.warthunder.com.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

topic on the official game forum;
other literature.

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Su-6	Su-6 · Su-6 (AM-42) · Su-6 (M-71F)
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Attackers	◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA
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 == Description ==
 <!-- ''In the description, the first part should be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert a screenshot of the vehicle, so that if the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle the article is talking about.'' -->
-During the 1980s, the Soviet Union and its allies began adopting upgraded variants of the Su-17 fighter-bomber, which was exported as the "Su-22" for Soviet allies. The East German airforce would recieve 48 of the latest Su-22M4 fighter bomber, along with eight of the twin-seat [[Su-22UM3K (Germany)|Su-22UM-3K]] trainer aircraft. The German Su-22s would serve as a frontline strike aircraft for the Warsaw Pact countries, and as a primary line of attack during a possible war with NATO. The Su-22M4s would remain in East German service until the re-unification of Germany, when almost all of the German Su-22s were either scrapped or sold off as they were incompatible with NATO hardware and standards. Only a few Su-22M4s were kept and repainted in Luftwaffe liveries for briefly serving as evaluation and testing aircraft.
+During the 1980s, the Soviet Union and its allies began adopting upgraded variants of the Su-17 fighter-bomber, which was exported as the "Su-22" for Soviet allies. The East German air force would receive 48 of the latest Su-22M4 fighter bomber, along with 8 of the twin-seat [[Su-22UM3K (Germany)|Su-22UM-3K]] trainer aircraft. The German Su-22s would serve as a frontline strike aircraft for the Warsaw Pact countries, and as a primary line of attack during a possible war with NATO. The Su-22M4s would remain in East German service until the re-unification of Germany, when almost all of the German Su-22s were either scrapped or sold off as they were incompatible with NATO hardware and standards. Only a few Su-22M4s were kept and repainted in Luftwaffe liveries for briefly serving as evaluation and testing aircraft.
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German strike aircraft {{Battle-rating}}, introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as a continuation (and culmination) of the fighter-bomber line, following its weaker brother, the Su-22UM3K in the tech tree, the Su-22M4 is the top-range Su-17/22 model, and is nearly identical to the [[Su-17M4]] in the Soviet aircraft tree. This aircraft is charecterized by its upgrades over its predecessor in the tree, mainly in that it can carry advanced guided ordnance such TV guided weapons in addition to the familiar laser guided ordnance. The aircraft is also no slouch in the air-to-air department either, now carrying over 250 countermeasures and the all-aspect [[R-60M|R-60MK]] missile, delivered swiftly to the enemy's location using the upgraded engine and avionics. All in all, this aircraft serves as a true titan of multirole performance for the aircraft of the German top ranks, excelling at both air to air and air to ground tasks, making it a force to be reckoned with in mixed battles.
+Introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]] as a continuation of the fighter-bomber line, following its weaker brother, the Su-22UM3K, in the tech tree, the '''Su-22M4''' is the top-range Su-17/22 model, and is nearly identical to the [[Su-17M4]] in the Soviet aircraft tree. This aircraft is characterized by its upgrades over its predecessor in the tree, mainly in that it can carry advanced guided ordnance such TV guided weapons in addition to the familiar laser guided ordnance. The aircraft is also no slouch in the air-to-air department either, now carrying over 250 countermeasures and the all-aspect [[R-60MK]] missiles, delivered swiftly to the enemy's location using the upgraded engine and avionics. All in all, this aircraft serves as a true titan of multirole performance for the aircraft of the German top ranks, excelling at both air to air and air to ground tasks, making it a force to be reckoned with in mixed battles.
 == General info ==
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 ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
-! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at _,___ m)
+! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 11,000 m)
 ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
@@ Line 32: / Line 32: @@
 |-
 ! Stock
-| ___ || ___ || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | ___
+| 2,027 || 2,011 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 27.3 || 27.5 ||167.9|| 161.3 || rowspan="2" | 850
 |-
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 | colspan="2" | Saturn AL-21F-3 || 1
-| colspan="2" | 11,245 kg || colspan="3" | ___ kg/m<sup>2</sup>
+| colspan="2" | 11,245 kg || colspan="3" | 438 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 |-
 ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics
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 | || 1 || 2 || || || 2 || 1 ||
 |-
-! 800 l drop tanks
+! 820 l drop tanks
-| || || || 1 || 1 || || ||
+| 1 || || || 1 || 1 || || || 1
 |-
 | colspan="9" | Maximum permissible loadout weight: 4,160 kg<br>Maximum permissible wing load: 2,100 kg<br>Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
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-* 2 x 800 l drop tanks
+* 4 x 820 l drop tanks
 * 2 x R-60MK missiles
 * 6 x R-60MK missiles
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 == Usage in battles ==
 <!-- ''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' -->
-''Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
+=== Air RB ===
+The useable loadouts can vary significantly depending on the opponents faced in the battle. Generally, any loadout carrying 8 FAB-500s is optimal as it can destroy exactly two bases. The R-60MKs are suboptimal in most scenarios due to how susceptible they are to flares, but excel when launched in "melee" (as in: from behind, no more than 800 m away), as they tend to fly past the flares and still hit their target. That said, the Su-22M4 should not be used for dogfighting, instead you should engage distracted or vulnerable targets.
+A rare but entertaining scenario is when the Su-22M4 meets subsonic aircraft like the [[A-10A Late]] or any [[Su-25 (Family)|Su-25 variant]] as the Kh-29T can in fact be used to engage them and can cause panic as the enemy pilot sees that their flares have no effect.
+=== Ground RB ===
+The Su-22M4's performance as close air support is as to be expected. The generous rocket load is recommended as even the FAB-500 bombs need relatively high precision to be effective. The laser-guided weapons are quite underwhelming as the plane lacks any form of advanced fire control to effectively target anything smaller than a cargo ship.
+Where the jet really shines is with the Kh-29T, originally designed against ships, this missile can obliterate any ground target. When spawned in, immediately begin climbing at a steep angle and switch to missile view, within a few seconds you should have a clear view of the battlefield. Center the crosshair on a target and simply hold the launch button, the missile will fire the moment it acquires a lock.
+However, you should be mindful of what you engage.
+'''Do:'''
+* Enemy anti-air: The [[Pantsir-S1]] especially is a treat for the missile's guidance system due to its large rectangular shape.
+* Targets far from cover: Enemies who think they are safe behind hills are especially good targets.
+* Helicopters: Although they can occasionally dodge the missile, it is reasonably effective while keeping you out of their AA missile range.
+'''Don't:'''
+* Enemies under fire: While much faster than the [[AGM-65 (Family)|AGM-65]], it still takes time for the missile to reach the target, and them deploying smoke or being destroyed will waste it.
+* Enemies moving to cover: The missile cannot re-acquire a lock and will self-destruct if it loses the target.
+* Targets that are off-bore: Although the missile has impressive manoeuvrability, it still has limits and the plane's nose should be pointing towards the target at ranges closer than 6 km.
 === Pros and cons ===
@@ Line 259: / Line 282: @@
 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=su_22m4 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
@@ Line 265: / Line 291: @@
 * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
-* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
+;Related Development
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
+*[[Su-17/22 (Family)]]
+;Other jet planes with variable sweep wings
+* [[Tornado (Family)]]
+* [[MiG-23 (Family)]]
+* [[F-14 (Family)|F14 (Family)]]
+* [[F-111A]]
 == External links ==
@@ Line 279: / Line 312: @@
 * ''other literature.''
+{{AirManufacturer Sukhoi}}
 {{Germany jet aircraft}}

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Difference between revisions of "Su-22M4 (Germany)"

Latest revision as of 07:51, 8 June 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Engine performance

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Usage in battles

Air RB

Ground RB

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links