A-5C

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A-5C
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A-5C
AB RB SB
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Description

The A-5C is a premium gift rank VI Chinese strike aircraft with a battle rating of 10.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Direct Hit".

Sharing most of the performance and appearance of a Q-5A, A-5C comes with AAMs and Western bombs which might be more familiar to players of the western countries. With its excellent climb rate as an attacker, a pair of advanced AAMs, and somewhat superior manoeuvrability to enemies at similar BR, it can still prove deadly to enemies at even higher BR, surprising them with what a MiG-19-based aircraft can do.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 7 000 m1 447 km/h
Turn time25 s
Max altitude17 000 m
Engine2 х Shenyang Liming WP-6A-III
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight13 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,000 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 17000 __._ __._ __._ __._ 900
Upgraded 1,458 1,447 24.6 25.0 186.2 162.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,260 577 N/A 500 450 ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Shenyang Liming WP-6A-III 2 6,712 kg 341 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 34m fuel
725 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,560 kg 8,329 kg 9,138 kg 9,539 kg 12,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 34m fuel MTOW
Stationary 2,651 kgf 3,706 kgf 0.98 0.89 0.81 0.78 0.62
Optimal 2,679 kgf
(1,000 km/h)
3,783 kgf
(1,000 km/h)
1.00 0.91 0.83 0.79 0.63

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
RWR
Notifies about the aircraft's exposure to laser or radio waves
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear577 km/h
  • 10 mm steel plate behind nose cone
  • 60 mm bulletproof glass in cockpit front
  • 8 mm steel plate underneath cockpit
  • 25 mm steel armoured pilot's seat
  • 10 + 16 mm steel armoured pilot's headrest
  • Self-sealing fuel tanks behind cockpit and underneath engines in rear fuselage

The A-5C protects the pilot from small arms fire, but against the armaments encountered at the battle rating, this level of protection does not amount to much. Enemy cannons and missiles will make short work of the A-5C so avoiding incoming fire is paramount. The twin engines are likely to be damaged by attacks from the rear, but having two of them offers some extra survivability since it is capable of flying back to base on one engine. The aircraft also remains somewhat controllable if one of the elevators is blown off.

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB5 070 Sl icon.png
RB5 070 Sl icon.png
SB5 070 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts1 510 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces2 150 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 90 / 270 / 160 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
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Compressor
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New boosters
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
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G-suit
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
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Airframe
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Cover
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Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods radar warning receiver.png
RWR
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
M117
Mod arrow 0.png
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RWR/Flares
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ns23_new_gun
Mods pilon block rocket.png
HF-6
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra R550 Magic 1
Mod arrow 0.png
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HF-14
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AIM-9P

Armaments

Offensive armament

Ammunition240 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main article: Type 23-2K (23 mm)

The A-5C is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • 2 x 23 mm Type 23-2K cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)
    • 2 x 23 mm Type 23-2K cannons (120 rpg = 240 total) + 18 x countermeasures

The A-5C is equipped with 23 mm cannons identical to the NR-23 cannons found on earlier Soviet jets like the J-4/MiG-17. These are significantly less powerful than the contemporary J-6A's Type 30/NR-30 cannons due to their lower explosive content, rate of fire, kinetic damage, and muzzle velocity. They typically require a solid burst of hits to destroy a target instead of dismembering enemy fighters with a brief touch. On the bright side, they have more ammunition with about 8 seconds of firing time. Lead generously and try to get close to your opponent before unloading. Using them against ground targets should not be a priority since their penetration is no higher than a heavy machine gun and the ammo supply is not plentiful.

The default belt has an even mix of FI-T and AP-I rounds and should be satisfactory from the start. Gun convergence is not a major issue since the cannons are mounted close to the centerline of the aircraft in the wing roots, and is up to personal preference.

Suspended armament

Number of setups22
List of setups
Setup 14 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 24 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 32 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
Setup 42 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
Setup 528 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
Setup 616 x Type 130-2 rockets
Setup 72 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 82 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 92 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
28 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
Setup 102 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
28 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
Setup 112 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
16 x Type 130-2 rockets
Setup 122 x Matra R550 Magic 1 air-to-air missiles
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
16 x Type 130-2 rockets
Setup 132 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 142 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 152 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
28 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 162 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
16 x Type 130-2 rockets
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 1728 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 182 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
28 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 1928 x Type 90-1 HEAT rockets
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 202 x AIM-9P Sidewinder air-to-air missiles
16 x Type 130-2 rockets
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb
Setup 2116 x Type 130-2 rockets
4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bomb
Setup 2216 x Type 130-2 rockets
4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bomb

The A-5C can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles
  • 28 x Type 90-1 rockets
  • 16 x Type 130-2 rockets
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 28 x Type 90-1 rockets + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 28 x Type 90-1 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 16 x Type 130-2 rockets + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x Matra R550 Magic 1 missiles + 16 x Type 130-2 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 28 x Type 90-1 rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs + 16 x Type 130-2 rockets (2,000 lb total)
  • 28 x Type 90-1 rockets + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 28 x Type 90-1 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 28 x Type 90-1 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs +2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)
  • 16 x Type 130-2 rockets + 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 16 x Type 130-2 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 16 x Type 130-2 rockets + 4 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9P Sidewinder missiles (3,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

Although historically an attack aircraft, the A-5C is not a first-rate ground attacker in Air RB since its ordnance is rather anaemic compared to other jets at its battle rating. It cannot destroy a base with its four 250 kg/500 lb bombs, but this is still an option for supplementary research points when grinding: stay at low altitude, loop around to a side base, drop the bombs, then head towards the center of the map to join the furball. Going after AI ground vehicles with the bombs and rockets can also be successful provided that other jets do not arrive quickly to crash the party.

The A-5C can outrun many of the enemy fighters it faces, but active combat at transonic or supersonic speeds should be avoided because of the control compression. The best way to reverse enemies is to pull them into a climbing spiral or other vertical manoeuvres; the A-5C has enough of the MiG-19's climb and thrust-to-weight characteristics to energy fight in a similar manner, the declining airspeed relaxes the control compression, and a stalled-out target is easier to gun down. It should be obvious that actual MiG-19 models such as the German MiG-19S are better than the A-5C in almost every regard when it comes to air-to-air combat. Be very careful about engaging them.

While its Chinese cousins lacked any form of AAM for self-defense, the A-5C comes with a pair of AIM-9Ps or Matra R550 Magics which prove very deadly at the BR; AIM-9P can cause extensive damage to the enemy team at range and Magic is among the best AAMs in game which can easily terminate any targets within a 2 km radius. So bringing 2 of them solely for dogfights or as self-defense are the way to go.

The RWR will not stop any missiles by itself, but knowing if there are pursuers or radar locks behind you reduces the chance of being surprised by a missile or cannon burst out of nowhere. The RWR is not a replacement for situational awareness, it is still the pilot's duty to look for approaching enemies and missile launches whenever possible. While A-5C comes with countermeasures, it has only 18 of them - only sufficient for one or two near misses from enemy missiles, so evade enemy missiles with manoeuvres for the best result and only spend your flares as a last ditch measure to save yourself.

Ground RB

The A-5C is a light ground attacker whose rockets are limited in capacity and whose bombs are limited in power. It's generally best to use up the rockets and bombs in one or two passes, then switch to providing air cover. If there are no enemy aircraft or helicopters around, the A-5C can quickly zoom back to the airfield and restock its weapons for another run. Keep in mind that A-5C has no CCIP capabilities, therefore pilots may need practice to drop bombs or unleash rockets accurately.

The A-5C has 90 mm HEAT rockets, which can be used successfully from many angles provided that enough hits are landed to knock out crew members. This is a challenge without a ballistic computer and the diving paths required to hit targets from above run the risk of crashing into the ground or presenting an easy target for SPAA, so definitely prioritize light vehicles when possible.

The 500 lbs bombs, which are dropped individually, do not have much explosive filler and need to be delivered with decent accuracy in order to score kills. This can be a tall order for a supersonic jet aircraft like the A-5C, especially against moving targets, so consider dropping several (or even all of them) at once. Carpet bombing a capture point or street can lead to decent results. A short fuse can be used due to the bombs' limited blast radius. For those familiar with the Q-5s, keep in mind that they carried high-drag bombs, meaning that you had to be really close to your targets before dropping them; these low-drag Mk.82 bombs should be easier to use.

The A-5C's radar warning receiver can help detect SPAA vehicles, but be sure to visually inspect the battlefield as well. Some players turn off their radars for greater stealth and some SPAAs lack radars entirely. The majority of SAMs are manually guided by their operators and thus flares will not work against them; the main exceptions are the Japanese Type 93 and the Italian SIDAM 25 (Mistral). Do not head-on or stall out in full view of an SPAA, and even when the coast appears to be clear, avoid flying in straight lines.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High acceleration, great energy retention, and decent climb rate
  • Good ammunition stock
  • Good sustained manoeuvrability, can out-turn F-4 Phantoms and keep up with MiG-21s
  • Has a radar warning receiver, useful against high tier SPAAs
  • Comes with excellent AIM-9P or R550 Magic missiles as self defense weaponry
  • The 4 x 500 lb bombs drop separately
  • The Type 90-1 rockets have sufficient penetration against MBT weakspots and light vehicles

Cons:

  • Average roll rate, much slower than shorter-winged opponents such as Yak-38 and Jaguar
  • Rudder and elevators lock up at high speeds (>1000 km/h)
  • The 23 mm cannons sometimes fall short in damage, much less lethal than J-6A's 30 mm cannons
  • No ballistic computer for bombs and rockets, thus requiring more skill to aim
  • Ordnance capacity is still below average for its rank
  • Amount of flares is quite limited

History

In view of the economy after the Cultural Revolution and the dawn of the economic reform in Mainland China, the Central Government decided that all exported weapons would be priced and handled by the newly established CATIC. In mid-1979, Egypt became their first overseas customer with orders of new jets and engines; meanwhile, Pakistan had concluded that the main culprit for the lost of 3rd Indo-Pakistan War was because of the lack of a dedicated ground attacker, in fear of possible assaults from USSR via Afghanistan, they were in dire need for a new ground attacker.

Pakistan then sent 2 teams of staffs to Nanchang Aircraft Corporation and it was concluded that Q-5 would be a fair option for an attacker with its low-altitude performance and price, but it would also be upgraded with Western avionics, weaponries and came with IR AAMs for self-defense. Based on the Q-5IA that was still under development, Nanchang Aircraft Corp. built 3 prototypes in 1982 and the newly designated A-5C was delivered to the PAF from early 1983 to 1984, with 54 of them built through out the year.

A-5C was then delivered to three different PAF squadrons and some of them retired as early as 1991, while the remaining were kept in commission until mid-2011, when the more-advanced JF-17 Thunder replaced them as a multi-role fighter. Other export variants remain in service at Myanmar and Sudan.

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Nanchang Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation 南昌飞机制造公司
Strike aircraft  Q-5 early · Q-5A · A-5C

China jet aircraft
Fighters  J-2 · J-4 · Shenyang F-5 · J-6A · J-7II · J-7E
Strike aircraft  Q-5 early · Q-5A · A-5C
Bombers  H-5
American  ␗F-84G-21-RE · ␗F-86F-30 · ␗F-86F-40 · ␗F-100A · ␗F-104A · ␗F-104G · ␗F-5A
Soviet  ␗MiG-9 · ␗MiG-9 (l)

China premium aircraft
Fighters  ␗A6M2 · H-81A-2 · Hawk III · ␗Ki-45 hei/tei · ␗Ki-84 ko
Jet fighters  Shenyang F-5
Strike aircraft  A-5C