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{{Specs-Card|code=spitfire_mk5c}}
 
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{{Notice|''This page is about the aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For other uses, see [[Spitfire_(Disambiguation)|Spitfire (Disambiguation)]]''}}
 
{{Notice|''This page is about the aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''. For other uses, see [[Spitfire_(Disambiguation)|Spitfire (Disambiguation)]]''}}
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
''In the description, the first part needs to be about the history of and the creation and combat usage of the aircraft, as well as its key features. In the second part, tell the reader about the aircraft in the game. Insert screenshot of the vehicle. If the novice player does not remember the vehicle by name, he will immediately understand what kind of vehicle it is talking about.''
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[[File:GarageImage_Spitfire_Mk_Vc_trop.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} British fighter {{Battle-rating|2}}. It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29, originally under the name ''Spitfire Mk Vc'', however this was changed in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]] to the current and accurate name.
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The Mk Vc/trop is a plane with no outstanding strengths or weaknesses. Its most outstanding aspect is its good manoeuvrability and powerful armament. Unfortunately, the Mk Vc/trop carries over all of the performance shortcomings of the Mk-Vb/trop. Unfortunately, when coupled with its {{Specs|br|ab}} (AB)/{{Specs|br|rb}} (RB) BR the Vc/trop will be put with slightly superior planes such as the Spitfire Mk.IX or the Ki-84 in realistic battle, and in arcade battle it will be put with far superior planes such as the FW-190 D-9 and Spitfire Mk.22.
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The armament is composed of 4 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons. The recommended belt is most definitely air targets due to the composition of purely HEFI and HEFI-SAPI. The stock cannons are extremely inaccurate and prone to overheating. Fire them sparingly due to the relatively low ammo count.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight Performance ===
 
=== Flight Performance ===
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="8" | Characteristics
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,963 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| ? || ? || 10,500 || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || ??.? || 340
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|-
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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|-
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,963 m)
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
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|-
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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! AB
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! RB
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|-
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| ? || ? || 10,500 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 340
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|-
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|}
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====Details====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Features
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|-
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! Combat flap
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! Take-off flap
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! Landing flap
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! Air brakes
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! Arrestor gear
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|-
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| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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|-
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
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|-
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! +
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! -
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|-
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| 760 || 270 || 290 || ~13 || ~7
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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|-
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
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|-
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| < 321 || < 400 || < 460 || > 250
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Compressor (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 1
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| 3,800 m || 1,200 hp || 1,704 hp
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|-
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Setting 3
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|-
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! Optimal altitude
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! 100% Engine power
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! WEP Engine power
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|-
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| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
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|- -->
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|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured. Describe the armour, if there is any, also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.''
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* 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
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* 4 mm Steel - Armored plates behind pilot, coupled with another 6-7 mm Steel plate behind that
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* 3 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of engine above propeller
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* 1 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of front top fuel tank
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* 3 mm Steel - Armored plates around ammunition
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
''Describe the offensive armament of the aircraft, if any. Describe how effective the cannons and machine guns are in a battle, and also what belts or drums are better to use. If there is no offensive weaponry, delete this subsection.''
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{{main|Hispano Mk.II (20 mm)}}
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
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* 4 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 480 total)
  
=== Suspended armament ===
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''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
 
''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.''
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;''Main article:&nbsp;'''[[:Category:Suspended armaments|Bombs]]'''''
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
 
''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available remove this subsection.''
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== Usage in the battles ==
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It is recommended that one turn-fights with the Vc. Boom & Zoom is not effective, due to the slow dive-acceleration, climb rate, and energy retention. The maximum speed of the Vc at both {{Specs|br|rb}} and {{Specs|br|ab}} is poor. Planes such as the BF-109 G-2/trop or P-63A can easily catch it. The roll rate is average on the Vc. Due to the slow acceleration and speed, the Vc will enter "furballs" at a slower speed than most other planes. The Vc also bleeds speed extremely quickly. Therefore, the performance of the Vc are below average (except for the armament and maneuverability). The performance at altitude of the Vc is abysmal compared to the similar Mk.IX. One can side-climb to gain altitude capability, but it is not recommended.
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===Manual Engine Control===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements
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|-
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! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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|-
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! Oil
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! Water
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! Type
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|-
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| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not ontrollable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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|-
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|}
  
== Usage in the battles ==
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===Modules===
''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using vehicles in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).''
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{| class="wikitable"
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!colspan = "1"| Tier
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!colspan = "2"| Flight performance
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!colspan = "1"| Survivability
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!colspan = "2"| Weaponry
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|-
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| I
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| Fuselage Repair
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| Radiator
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|
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|
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|-
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| II
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|
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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|
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|-
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| III
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| Wings Repair
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| Engine
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|
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|
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|-
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| IV
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|
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| Engine Injection
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| Cover
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|
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Do not use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Great forward armament in 4 x 20 mm Hispano cannons
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* Great ammo belts
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* Good manoeuvrability
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* Good low-level performance
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* Decent sustained climb rate
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Bad roll rate for a fighter
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* No bomb options unlike other similar-BR Spitfire variants
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* Poor performance at altitude
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* Poor acceleration
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* Poor maximum speed
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* Mediocre durability
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* Poor dive-speed acceleration
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* Very high repair cost
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
''ETC.''
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== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==
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* ''page on aircraft encyclopedia;''
 
* ''page on aircraft encyclopedia;''
 
* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
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{{Britain fighters}}

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Msg-info.png This page is about the aircraft Spitfire Mk Vc/trop. For other uses, see Spitfire (Disambiguation)

Description

GarageImage Spitfire Mk Vc trop.jpg


The Spitfire Mk Vc/trop is a Rank III British fighter with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB) and 4.7 (RB/SB). It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29, originally under the name Spitfire Mk Vc, however this was changed in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" to the current and accurate name.

The Mk Vc/trop is a plane with no outstanding strengths or weaknesses. Its most outstanding aspect is its good manoeuvrability and powerful armament. Unfortunately, the Mk Vc/trop carries over all of the performance shortcomings of the Mk-Vb/trop. Unfortunately, when coupled with its 5.3 (AB)/4.7 (RB) BR the Vc/trop will be put with slightly superior planes such as the Spitfire Mk.IX or the Ki-84 in realistic battle, and in arcade battle it will be put with far superior planes such as the FW-190 D-9 and Spitfire Mk.22.

The armament is composed of 4 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannons. The recommended belt is most definitely air targets due to the composition of purely HEFI and HEFI-SAPI. The stock cannons are extremely inaccurate and prone to overheating. Fire them sparingly due to the relatively low ammo count.

General info

Flight Performance

Characteristics
Stock
Max Speed
(km/h at 3,963 m)
Max altitude
(meters)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run
(meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 10,500  ??.?  ??.?  ??.?  ??.? 340
Upgraded
Max Speed
(km/h at 3,963 m)
Max altitude (meters) Turn time (seconds) Rate of climb
(meters/second)
Take-off run (meters)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
 ?  ? 10,500  ??.?  ??.?  ?.?  ?.? 340

Details

Features
Combat flap Take-off flap Landing flap Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wing-break speed
(km/h)
Gear limit
(km/h)
Combat flap
(km/h)
Max Static G
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760 270 290 ~13 ~7
Optimal velocities
Ailerons
(km/h)
Rudder
(km/h)
Elevators
(km/h)
Radiator
(km/h)
< 321 < 400 < 460 > 250
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
3,800 m 1,200 hp 1,704 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass - Armored windscreen
  • 4 mm Steel - Armored plates behind pilot, coupled with another 6-7 mm Steel plate behind that
  • 3 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of engine above propeller
  • 1 mm Steel - Armored plate in front of front top fuel tank
  • 3 mm Steel - Armored plates around ammunition

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: Hispano Mk.II (20 mm)

The Spitfire Mk Vc/trop is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm Hispano Mk.II cannon, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 480 total)

Usage in the battles

It is recommended that one turn-fights with the Vc. Boom & Zoom is not effective, due to the slow dive-acceleration, climb rate, and energy retention. The maximum speed of the Vc at both 4.7 and 5.3 is poor. Planes such as the BF-109 G-2/trop or P-63A can easily catch it. The roll rate is average on the Vc. Due to the slow acceleration and speed, the Vc will enter "furballs" at a slower speed than most other planes. The Vc also bleeds speed extremely quickly. Therefore, the performance of the Vc are below average (except for the armament and maneuverability). The performance at altitude of the Vc is abysmal compared to the similar Mk.IX. One can side-climb to gain altitude capability, but it is not recommended.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Not controllable Not controllable Not controllable Separate Not ontrollable Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage Repair Radiator
II Compressor Airframe
III Wings Repair Engine
IV Engine Injection Cover

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Great forward armament in 4 x 20 mm Hispano cannons
  • Great ammo belts
  • Good manoeuvrability
  • Good low-level performance
  • Decent sustained climb rate

Cons:

  • Bad roll rate for a fighter
  • No bomb options unlike other similar-BR Spitfire variants
  • Poor performance at altitude
  • Poor acceleration
  • Poor maximum speed
  • Mediocre durability
  • Poor dive-speed acceleration
  • Very high repair cost

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ historical reference" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/Name-vehicles/historical reference) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to include links to sources at the end of the article.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

Read also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • page on aircraft encyclopedia;
  • other literature.


Britain fighters
Fury  Fury Mk I · Fury Mk II
Nimrod  Nimrod Mk I · Nimrod Mk II
Gladiator  Gladiator Mk II · Tuck's Gladiator Mk II · Gladiator Mk IIF · Gladiator Mk IIS
Sea Gladiator  Sea Gladiator Mk I
Hurricane  Hurricane Mk I/L · Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M · Hurricane Mk IIB/Trop
Sea Hurricane  Sea Hurricane Mk IB · Sea Hurricane Mk IC
Martin-Baker  MB.5
Spitfire (early-Merlin)  Spitfire Mk Ia · Spitfire Mk IIa · Spitfire Mk.IIa Venture I · Spitfire Mk IIb · Spitfire Mk Vb/trop · Spitfire Mk Vb · Spitfire Mk Vc/trop · Spitfire Mk Vc
Spitfire (late-Merlin)  Spitfire F Mk IX · Spitfire LF Mk IX · Spitfire F Mk IXc · Plagis' Spitfire LF Mk IXc · Spitfire F Mk XVI
Spitfire (Griffon)  Spitfire F Mk XIVc · Spitfire F Mk XIVe · Prendergast's Spitfire FR Mk XIVe · Spitfire F Mk XVIIIe · Spitfire F Mk 22 · Spitfire F Mk 24
Seafire  Seafire LF Mk.III · Seafire F Mk XVII · Seafire FR 47
Typhoon  Typhoon Mk Ia · Typhoon Mk Ib · Typhoon Mk Ib/L
Tempest  Tempest Mk II · Tempest Mk V
Sea Fury  Sea Fury FB 11
Twin-engine fighters  Hornet Mk.I · Hornet Mk.III · Whirlwind Mk I · Whirlwind P.9
  Foreign:
Australia  ▄Boomerang Mk I · ▄Boomerang Mk II
France  ▄D.520 · ▄D.521
USA  ▄Martlet Mk IV · ▄Corsair F Mk II · ▄Hellcat Mk II · ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄Mustang Mk IA