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{{Specs-Card|code=fw-190a-8}}
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The Focke-Wulf 190 A-8 is one of the later variants of the "Anton". By 1944, the Allied bombing campaign was at an all-time high, and German aircraft were constantly receiving new changes intended for high-altitude performance. The 190 A-8 was a fairly significant improvement over the previous A-7. Additions included a 115-liter tank for increased range, more armament, and the all-important GM-1 boost. GM-1 was quite important for high-altitude fighters where the air is much thinner than at sea level. It utilized nitrous oxide, which was compressed into a liquid and stored in a tank behind the pilot. At high altitude, nitrous oxide would be injected via the intake and was able to increase power for about 10 minutes before the tank was empty. GM-1 boost is different from MW 50: MW 50 systems inject a mix of water and methanol to cool the supercharger and air coming into the combustion chamber. Over 6,600 A-8 variants were produced at various factories, and many saw use against bomber formations. 
  
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[[File:GarageImage_Fw190F8.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The A-8 can easily be considered the ultimate Anton variant due to its numerous improvements and excellent armament. Firstly, the 7.92 mm machine guns of earlier Anton variants were replaced with 13 mm [[MG 131 (13 mm)|MG 131]] machine guns. It was first utilized in the 190 A-7 variant and subsequently carried over to the 190 A-8. As for cannons, the A-8 comes armed with an impressive four wing-mounted [[MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 151]]s and an equally impressive amount of ammunition. With 780 cannon rounds in total, players can be more than generous when trying to take down enemy aircraft. 
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== General info ==
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The '''Fw 190 F-8''' is a Rank IV German fighter with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 4.7 (SB). It was in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.29.
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=== Flight performance ===
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The 190 who thought it's a [[Ju 87D-5|Stuka]]. The F-8 version is a peculiar one, designed to replace the the aging Ju 87 series, it could never fully replace it this late into the war (1944). As an attacker this Focke Wulf gains mid-air start on most maps which can either be used to get to ground targets quickly, or get the jump on climbing fighters. Keep in mind though that the very heavy F-8 is not designed for dogfights and will suffer in any fighter engagement.
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== General info ==
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,500 m)
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=== Flight Performance ===
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
 
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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| 603 || 583 || 11,,100 || 24.8 || 25.3 || 9.3 || 11.6 || 453
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! Stock
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| 622 || 602 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 24.1 || 25.0 || 9.7 || 9.7 || rowspan="2" | 450
 
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| 687 || 652 || 21.4 || 22.8 || 20.0 || 14.1
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 5,400 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
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| ? || ? || 11,100 || ??.? || ??.? || ?.? || ?.? || 453
 
 
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====Details====
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==== Details ====
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
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! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Take-off flap
 
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! Landing flap
 
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! Air brakes
 
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! Arrestor gear
 
 
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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| 860 || 860 || ??? || ~19 || ~19
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || 700 || 310 || ~12 || ~6
 
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 700 m || 1,498 hp || 1,874 hp
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* No armour plating
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* No armour glazing
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* Critical components located at front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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* 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
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* More fuel tanks located in wings near fuselage
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* 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
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* 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
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* 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
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* 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
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* 8 mm Steel - Pilot's seat armour
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* 6 mm Steel - Pilot's seat armour
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* 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
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* 57 mm Bulletproof glass
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}}
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|MG 151/20 (20 mm)|MG 131 (13 mm)}}
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{{main|MG 151 (20 mm)|MG 131 (13 mm)}}
  
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The Fw 190 F-8 is armed with:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 2 x 20 mm MG 151/20 cannon, wing-mounted (250 rpg = 500 total)
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* 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (140 rpg outer + 250 rpg inner = 780 total)
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* 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
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* 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
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{{main|Wfr.Gr.21}}
  
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Payload options for the Fw 190 F-8 include:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* Without load
 
* Without load
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (200 kg total)
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* 2 x Wfr.Gr.21 rockets
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* 8 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs (400 kg total)
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* 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (250 kg total)
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== Usage in battles ==
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 250 kg SC250JA bomb (450 kg total)
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* 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (500 kg total)
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The Fw 190 A-8 possesses below average speed, acceleration, and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. You should climb to either 3,000 m altitude or 5,000 m and wait for friendlies to engage enemy aircraft first. Don't forget to use your flaps in a dive as the A-8 gains a massive amount of speed in a dive, generally resulting in overshooting the target if he is distracted with a dogfight. Don't worry about your flaps breaking as they can survive speeds up to 900 km/h, far faster than you're ever going to go in combat.
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 500 kg SC500K bomb (700 kg total)
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* 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,000 kg total)
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If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the process is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior energy and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much energy to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors manoeuvre; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, BnZ like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
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* 4 x 50 kg SC50JA bombs + 1 x 1000 kg SC1000L2 bomb (1,200 kg total)
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* 2 x 30 mm MK 103 cannon, wing-mounted (35 rpg = 70 total)
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The Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the [[Spitfire LF Mk IX]] and [[La-7B-20]], both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces [[Tempest (Family)|Tempests]], [[Fw 190 A-5]], [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109 G variants]], [[Spitfire (Family)|Griffon Spitfires]] and [[F4U-1C]]'s. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by and large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is going to give anyone trouble. However, these advantages are quite predictable and easily countered by an attentive opponent.
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* 14 x Pb2 rockets
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
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The Fw-190F-8 possesses far below average speed, acceleration and climb ability for it's tier. If you spot a bandit at the same altitude, a recommended tactic is to head-on attack, followed by an evasive maneuver and then extending away to repeat the processes. If a bandit has superior energy/altitude and is trying to attack you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much altitude to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective maneuver in the Fw 190s. Many good pilots have dismembered many superior aircraft simply because of the roll rate and firepower this plane possesses. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary for the unintended fighter-role, climb to the side or continue climbing when starting mid-air, Boom & Zoom like a champion, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use the rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.
 
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===Manual Engine Control===
 
 
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! Water
 
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===Modules===
 
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! Survivability
 
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
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| Fuselage Repair, Radiator
 
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| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable<br>2 gears || Not controllable
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| Compressor
 
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| Airframe
 
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| Wing Repair, Engine
 
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| Cover
 
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This attacker "Würger" has such awful responsiveness from the elevator, that anything which improves turn rate should have the highest priority. Otherwise it will kiss the ground more a lot more than cows do! Don't forget, it needs to dive-bomb to hit anything. And grinding the bombs cannot be forgotten!! This is an attacker, so it needs the payload unlocks, but without performance upgrades it is just pain to fly. A detour to the new belts could be considered, but two 20 mm cannons are enough to handle any ground units even with stock ammo. Especially as the other performance upgrades are necessary as well due the F-8's great weight.
 
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Great roll rate
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* Amazing roll rate, as to be expected of the Fw 190 line
 
* Great energy retention
 
* Great energy retention
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* Ability to carry up to 1200 kg of payload
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* Gets an interceptor airspawn
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* Plenty of ammo
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* Massive pool of cannon ammunition
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* Access to 30 mm MK 103 gunpods
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* Well armoured frontal profile
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* Carrying the 30 mm cannon pods do not have a significant reduction on flight performance when compared to the bombs
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* Powerful MG 151/20 with access to Minengeschoß dense belts
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* Well armoured from the front
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* MG FF/M's found on previous Fw 190 variants replaced with MG 151/20
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* Excellent tank busting capability
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* Radiator rarely overheats
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* Can potentially win a game single-handedly if left unchecked
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* Flaps are effectively unbreakable and can be used at high speeds
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* 30 mm HVAP rounds can deal with any surface target except Pillboxes
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Poor turn rate that many Medium Bombers can beat
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* Elevator has low responsibility & effect on low-medium speeds
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* Poor pitch/turn rate without combat flap angle makes dogfighting very risky, but not impossible
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* 30 mm cannons are mounted on the wings therefore is inaccurate
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* Elevator response and pitch rate very slow at low-medium speeds
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* Firing the 30 mm cannons creates recoil within the plane
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* Outboard wing 20 mm cannon loaded with 140 round belts, while inboard/wing root mounted cannon fed from 250 round belts
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* Maneuverability at low speeds is bad
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* Manoeuvrability at speeds below 350 km/h
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* Generally outclassed by other 190 models when it comes to air to air combat
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* Generally outclassed by other Fw 190 when engaging in turn fights
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* Bad climb rate for a 190 especially with payloads
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* Mediocre climb rate for its battle rating and as Fw 190's go
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* Slow turn rate, can even be outturned by a B-25
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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{{main|Fw_190_A-5#History|l1=History of the Fw 190 A-5}}
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===Development===
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After the different improvements from A-1 to A-5, the Fw 190 gained successively in engine power, ordnance and firepower but also in weight. It culminated with the lengthened airframe of the A-5 (to reduce vibrations) and led to the development of the following variants:
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* Fw 190 A-6: developed in 1943, it integrated a new wing design to reduce wing loading and two 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons replacing both wing-mounted 20 mm MG/FF cannons together with larger ammunition boxes.
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* Fw 190 A-7: introduced in December 1943, it saw the replacement of both nose-mounted 7.7 mm MGs with 13 mm MG131 machine guns.
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* Fw 190 A-8: introduced in 1944, the A-8 was the same aircraft as the A-7. The main improvement was the injection boost system "GM1" for the BMW 801 engine. The system injected nitrous oxide into the cylinders to raise the engine's power limit for a period reaching 10 minutes. A 115 L fuel tank was also installed to increase the range and wing-mounted 30 mm cannons were added as optional armament. The {{PAGENAME}} went into production in February 1944 and 6,655 units were produced between 1944 and 1945.
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===Combat usage===
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The {{PAGENAME}} saw combat extensively: it was used as a fighter during Operation Bodenplatte (Battle of the Bulge) in 1944 and to intercept USAF and RAF night bomber formations in 1944 and 1945 over Germany.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example,''
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{{Youtube-gallery|vtCKzvbLfNg|'''The Shooting Range #18''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 03:03 discusses the Fw 190A.}}
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== See also ==
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== Sources ==
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* [[Fw 190 A-8 (USA)]], the premium American version.
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* [[NC.900]], the gift French version.
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== External links ==
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Latest revision as of 12:40, 13 February 2024

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This page is about the German fighter Fw 190 A-8. For other versions, see Fw 190 (Family).
Fw 190 A-8
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ArtImage Fw 190 A-8.jpg
Fw 190 A-8
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IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.3 5.0 5.3
Class:
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Description

The Focke-Wulf 190 A-8 is one of the later variants of the "Anton". By 1944, the Allied bombing campaign was at an all-time high, and German aircraft were constantly receiving new changes intended for high-altitude performance. The 190 A-8 was a fairly significant improvement over the previous A-7. Additions included a 115-liter tank for increased range, more armament, and the all-important GM-1 boost. GM-1 was quite important for high-altitude fighters where the air is much thinner than at sea level. It utilized nitrous oxide, which was compressed into a liquid and stored in a tank behind the pilot. At high altitude, nitrous oxide would be injected via the intake and was able to increase power for about 10 minutes before the tank was empty. GM-1 boost is different from MW 50: MW 50 systems inject a mix of water and methanol to cool the supercharger and air coming into the combustion chamber. Over 6,600 A-8 variants were produced at various factories, and many saw use against bomber formations. 

The Fw 190 A-8 has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27. The A-8 can easily be considered the ultimate Anton variant due to its numerous improvements and excellent armament. Firstly, the 7.92 mm machine guns of earlier Anton variants were replaced with 13 mm MG 131 machine guns. It was first utilized in the 190 A-7 variant and subsequently carried over to the 190 A-8. As for cannons, the A-8 comes armed with an impressive four wing-mounted MG 151s and an equally impressive amount of ammunition. With 780 cannon rounds in total, players can be more than generous when trying to take down enemy aircraft. 

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 5 500 m652 km/h
Turn time22 s
Max altitude10 300 m
EngineBMW 801 TU
TypeRadial
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight6 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 5,500 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 622 602 10300 24.1 25.0 9.7 9.7 450
Upgraded 687 652 21.4 22.8 20.0 14.1

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
912 310 N/A 700 310 ~12 ~6
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 420 < 300 < 550 > 320
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
700 m 1,498 hp 1,874 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,300 m 1,301 hp 1,628 hp

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural912 km/h
Gear310 km/h
  • 6 mm Steel - Fore cowl ring
  • 10 mm Steel - Cowl ring
  • 6 mm Steel - Under engine armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Under cockpit/fuel tank armour plate
  • 5 mm Steel - Rear fuel tank armour
  • 8 mm Steel - Pilot's seat armour
  • 6 mm Steel - Pilot's seat armour
  • 12 mm Steel - Headrest armour
  • 57 mm Bulletproof glass

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 496 → 3 177 Sl icon.png
RB5 820 → 7 408 Sl icon.png
SB8 470 → 10 782 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications46 700 Rp icon.png
85 100 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 500 Ge icon.png
Crew training52 000 Sl icon.png
Experts185 000 Sl icon.png
Aces940 Ge icon.png
Research Aces480 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
90 / 210 / 440 % Sl icon.png
166 / 166 / 166 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Fuselage repair
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 600 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 600 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
3 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 300 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
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Airframe
Research:
3 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 300 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
mg131_belt_pack
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 600 Sl icon.png
200 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
mg131_new_gun
Research:
3 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 400 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
mg15120_belt_pack
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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R6 modification
Research:
2 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 300 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
mg15120_new_gun
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 300 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Weapon 14 x 20 mm MG 151 cannon
Ammunition780 rounds
Fire rate700 shots/min
Weapon 22 x 13 mm MG 131 machine gun
Ammunition800 rounds
Fire rate900 shots/min
Main articles: MG 151 (20 mm), MG 131 (13 mm)

The Fw 190 A-8 is armed with:

  • 4 x 20 mm MG 151 cannons, wing-mounted (140 rpg outer + 250 rpg inner = 780 total)
  • 2 x 13 mm MG 131 machine guns, nose-mounted (400 rpg = 800 total)

Suspended armament

List of setups (1)
Setup 12 x Wfr.Gr.21 rockets
Main article: Wfr.Gr.21

The Fw 190 A-8 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x Wfr.Gr.21 rockets

Usage in battles

The Fw 190 A-8 possesses below average speed, acceleration, and climb ability for its rank. It does, however, have great high-speed control and a wicked armament that will shred any fighter almost instantly. It is recommended that you climb to the side and let your teammates engage first so you can put your excellent BnZ ability to work. You should climb to either 3,000 m altitude or 5,000 m and wait for friendlies to engage enemy aircraft first. Don't forget to use your flaps in a dive as the A-8 gains a massive amount of speed in a dive, generally resulting in overshooting the target if he is distracted with a dogfight. Don't worry about your flaps breaking as they can survive speeds up to 900 km/h, far faster than you're ever going to go in combat.

If you spot a bandit co-alt, a head-on attack followed by an evasive manoeuvre and then extending away to repeat the process is a recommended tactic. If a bandit has superior energy and is pressing an attack against you, try to drag them to friendlies, but don't sacrifice too much energy to do so. If you are skilled enough, another tactic would be to initiate a scissors manoeuvre; either rolling or flat, and then break away when he goes to yo-yo to control his overshoot. The scissors is a highly effective manoeuvre in the 190 A-8. If you are ballsy enough to press for a gun solution when scissoring an enemy, you could be greatly rewarded. In summary, climb to the side, BnZ like a champ, never get in a sustained turn fight, and use your rate of roll to free yourself when cornered.

The Fw 190 A-8 sits at a high battle rating, close to the Spitfire LF Mk IX and La-7B-20, both of which are vastly superior planes overall. It frequently faces Tempests, Fw 190 A-5, Bf 109 G variants, Griffon Spitfires and F4U-1C's. Unfortunately, the A-8 is by and large worse than all of these planes, but it still possesses some unique advantages and if piloted correctly is going to give anyone trouble. However, these advantages are quite predictable and easily countered by an attentive opponent.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Auto control available 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Combined Not controllable
2 gears 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Amazing roll rate, as to be expected of the Fw 190 line
  • Great energy retention
  • Gets an interceptor airspawn
  • Massive pool of cannon ammunition
  • Well armoured frontal profile
  • Powerful MG 151/20 with access to Minengeschoß dense belts
  • MG FF/M's found on previous Fw 190 variants replaced with MG 151/20
  • Radiator rarely overheats
  • Flaps are effectively unbreakable and can be used at high speeds

Cons:

  • Poor pitch/turn rate without combat flap angle makes dogfighting very risky, but not impossible
  • Elevator response and pitch rate very slow at low-medium speeds
  • Outboard wing 20 mm cannon loaded with 140 round belts, while inboard/wing root mounted cannon fed from 250 round belts
  • Manoeuvrability at speeds below 350 km/h
  • Generally outclassed by other Fw 190 when engaging in turn fights
  • Mediocre climb rate for its battle rating and as Fw 190's go
  • Slow turn rate, can even be outturned by a B-25

History

Main article: History of the Fw 190 A-5

Development

After the different improvements from A-1 to A-5, the Fw 190 gained successively in engine power, ordnance and firepower but also in weight. It culminated with the lengthened airframe of the A-5 (to reduce vibrations) and led to the development of the following variants:

  • Fw 190 A-6: developed in 1943, it integrated a new wing design to reduce wing loading and two 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons replacing both wing-mounted 20 mm MG/FF cannons together with larger ammunition boxes.
  • Fw 190 A-7: introduced in December 1943, it saw the replacement of both nose-mounted 7.7 mm MGs with 13 mm MG131 machine guns.
  • Fw 190 A-8: introduced in 1944, the A-8 was the same aircraft as the A-7. The main improvement was the injection boost system "GM1" for the BMW 801 engine. The system injected nitrous oxide into the cylinders to raise the engine's power limit for a period reaching 10 minutes. A 115 L fuel tank was also installed to increase the range and wing-mounted 30 mm cannons were added as optional armament. The Fw 190 A-8 went into production in February 1944 and 6,655 units were produced between 1944 and 1945.

Combat usage

The Fw 190 A-8 saw combat extensively: it was used as a fighter during Operation Bodenplatte (Battle of the Bulge) in 1944 and to intercept USAF and RAF night bomber formations in 1944 and 1945 over Germany.

Media

Skins
Videos
The Shooting Range #18 - Pages of History section at 03:03 discusses the Fw 190A.

See also

External links


Focke-Wulf Aircraft Corporation (Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau Aktiengesellschaft)
Fighters  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U12 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8
  Fw 190 C
  Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
  Fw 190 F-8
  Ta 152 C-3* · Ta 152 H-1* · Ta 154 A-1*
Bombers  Fw 189 A-1 · Fw 200 C-1
Export  ▅Fw 190 A-5
Captured  ▃Fw 190 A-8 · ▂Fw 190 D-9
  * In 1944, the Germany Air Ministry changed new fighter aircraft designation to that of the chief designer. Kurt Tank was the chief designer at Focke-Wulf and later aircraft he designed were given the prefix of Ta.

Germany fighters
Heinkel 
He 51  He 51 A-1 · He 51 B-1 · He 51 B-2/H · He 51 C-1 · He 51 C-1/L
He 100  He 100 D-1
He 112  He 112 A-0 · He 112 B-0 · He 112 B-1/U2 · He 112 B-2/U2 · He 112 V-5
Messerschmitt 
Bf 109 (Jumo)  Flegel's Bf 109 A · Bf 109 B-1 · Bf 109 C-1 · Bf 109 C-1
Bf 109 (DB-601)  Bf 109 E-1 · Bf 109 E-3 · Bf 109 E-4 · Bf 109 E-7/U2 · Bf 109 F-1 · Bf 109 F-2 · Bf 109 F-4 · Bf 109 F-4/trop
Bf 109 (DB-605)  Bf 109 G-2/trop · Bf 109 G-2 · Bf 109 G-6 · Bf 109 G-10 · Bf 109 G-14 · Bf 109 K-4
Focke-Wulf 
Fw 190 (early)  Fw 190 A-1 · Fw 190 A-4 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5 · Fw 190 A-5/U2 · Fw 190 A-5/U14 · Fw 190 A-8 · Fw 190 C
Fw 190 (late)  Fw 190 D-9 · Fw 190 D-12 · Fw 190 D-13
Ta 152  Ta 152 C-3 · Ta 152 H-1
Blohm & Voss 
BV 155  BV 155 B-1
  Captured:
USA  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
USSR  ▀La-5FN · ▀Yak-1B
Britain  ▀Tempest Mk V
Italy 
CR.42  ▀CR.42 · ▀Marcolin's C.R.42 CN
G.50  ▀G.50 serie 2 · ▀G.50 AS serie 7
C.200  ▀C. 200 serie 3 · ▀C. 200 serie 7
C.202  ▀C. 202
Finland  ▀Hawk H-75A-2

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