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{{Specs-Card|code=it_m47_105}}
 
 
{{About
 
{{About
 
| about = Italian medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
| about = Italian medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_M47 (105 55).jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.85 "Supersonic"]].
 
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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{{Specs-Tank-Armour}}
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The M47's armour is a middle point between the M26 and an M48, it has decent hull armour which is able to stop full calibre solid shots from almost all vehicles it will face. However, it is not able to withstand sub-calibres like British APDS. Turret is inconsistent when it comes to full calibre and sub-calibres. Turret mantlet is able to withstand calibres lower than 105 mm but cheeks may even stop 122 mm. However they may not be able to stop sub-calibres from almost all calibres. Armour should not be relied on most of the cases due to inconsistency against threats seen in combat. However, this does not mean the armour should not be used at all. When facing Soviet and American tanks, armour is sufficient to completely shatter or partially stop the shell, this is due to full calibre APHE and APCBC have relatively low penetration (215 mm - 250 mm). The story changes when facing British APDS from 20-pdr (84 mm) to 120 mm. They have an equivalent or higher penetration than the M47 (105/55) APDS, meaning they will easily penetrate you without effort. Now, there are some aspects when it comes to APDS. Due to being sub-calibre, they have penetration over post-penetration effects. All the spalling is dependent on the armour thickness. This can be considered good or bad depending on where the APDS is being fired at. Hits to the hull frontal plate will most likely kill your driver and loader (if hit on the right side seen from the front) or gunner and commander (if hit on the left side seen from the front). Turret hits are often single-shot kills if fired in the right places. In a 60° frontal arc, all hits will take at most 2 crew members unless it is a high calibre round like the [[Conway]]'s 120 mm. Past 60°, all hits are most likely to be single-shot kill, specially if the hit is made at a turret side as the breech is not big enough to stop the spalling. Hits on the turret back are confirmed kills, however, hits on the engine deck can be painful due to fire but will not instantly destroy the M47. The engine and transmission are big enough to stop all spalling and rounds it will see except darts.
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'''Armour type:'''
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*Cast homogeneous armour (Front hull, turret, cupola)
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*Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull sides, rear and roof, turret roof, cupola roof)
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| Hull || 101.6 mm (59°) ''Upper glacis'' <br> 75 mm (24-76°) ''MG port bulge'' <br> 170 mm ''obturated MG port'' <br> 90 mm (52°) ''Lower glacis - Top'' <br> 76.2 mm (27-54°) ''Lower glacis - Bottom'' || 76.2 mm ''Top - Front'' <br> 38-50.8 mm ''Top - Rear'' <br> 25.4 mm (67°) ''Bottom'' || 25 mm ''Upper plate - Centre'' <br> 22.2 mm (1-64°) ''Lower glacis - Centre'' <br> 38-50.8 mm ''Sides'' || 22.2 mm (0-16°) <br> 25.4 mm (spherical) ''Front hatches''
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| Turret || 121 mm (spherical) ''Turret front - Centre and Bottom'' <br> 101.6 mm ''Turret front - Top'' <br> 62-74 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 63.5 mm (22-27°) <br> 16 mm (spherical) ''Optics port'' || 76.2-90 mm || 25.4 mm
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| Cupola || colspan="3" style="text-align:center" | 76.2 mm (cylindrical) || 76.2 mm (conical) ''Outer ring'' <br> 25.4 mm ''Centre''
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'''Notes:'''
  
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* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick and tracks are 30 mm thick.
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* Belly armour is 25.4 mm thick.
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* Storage boxes and mudguards are 5 mm thick.
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* Turret bustle rack is 15 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1162|rbMinHp= 663}}
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Mobility wise, the M47 is a fatter M26. Not too fast but not too slow either. It has a powerful engine that is able to pull and push almost all tanks in the battlefield while being able to maintain adequate mobility. It does not have neutral steering per se as it is not fully on its own axis. However it does have a really good reverse speed (for its size) as well as acceleration for both forward and reverse gears. Top speed is higher than the M26 but is not too fast, expect from a Patton tank.
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,162|rbMinHp=663}}
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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{{Specs-Economy}}
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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{{Specs-Tank-Armaments}}
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)}}
 
{{main|OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)}}
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This specific M47 is armed with the OTO Melara 105/55 cannon, the only M47 in-game to have a 105 mm gun. It is similar to the L7A3 Royal Ordnance 105 mm gun seen on other vehicles ([[Centurion Mk 10]], [[Leopard 1]], [[Vickers MBT]]) and the M68 105 mm gun ([[M60 (Family)|M60A1-A3]]). However, its handling is similar to the OTO Melara 105/52 of the Centauro, mainly for using exactly the same ammunition.
  
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
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! colspan="5" | [[OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)|105 mm OTO Melara 105/55]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
! colspan="5" | [[OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)|105 mm OTO Melara 105/55]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! Mode
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Capacity
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Vertical
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Horizontal
 
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! Stabilizer
 
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! Stock
 
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! Upgraded
 
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! Full
 
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! Expert
 
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! Aced
 
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! Stock
 
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! Full
 
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! Expert
 
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! Aced
 
 
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! ''Arcade''
 
! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 71 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 28.6 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || rowspan="2" | 8.7 || rowspan="2" | __.__ || rowspan="2" | __.__ || rowspan="2" | __.__
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| rowspan="2" | 71 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+19° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 28.6 || 39.5 || 48.0 || 53.1 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
 
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! ''Realistic''
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| 17.9 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.5 || 28.2 || 30.0
 
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===== Ammunition=====
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==== Ammunition ====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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This M47 is the most powerful M47 seen in-game firepower-wise. It has the same ammunition as the [[Centauro]].
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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* M392A2: despite being APDS and the stock round, this round is one of the most powerful sub-calibre rounds the Italians have access to at Rank 5. The penetration, flight speed and post-penetration effect are really great for beating almost all tanks it faces with exception of the T-55AM-1. This round is underestimated for the fact it does not have the same penetration the M456 has. However it comes more in handy to use APDS most of the time than HEATFS mainly for the fact that it can be used easier for longer engagements and will not detonate with trees and bushes.
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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* M393A2: the HESH round is 90% of the time useless unless trap shots are involved. The use for it is really situational and it is much better to carry APDS or HEATFS for all anti-tank purposes.
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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* M456: this is the pinnacle of heavy armour destroying, mainly for the fact that it has a continuous penetration through all its flight time. This is not recommended to be carried as the main shell for the previous statements. However it is recommended to carry some to defeat heavy armour the APDS is unable to penetrate.
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
 
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!2000m
 
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| M392A2 || APDS || 303 || 302 || 296 || 277 || 257 || 252
 
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| M393A2 || HESH || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127 || 127
 
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| M456 || HEATFS || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
 
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{{:OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)/Ammunition|M392A2, M393A2, M456}}
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
 
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
 
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
 
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''in m:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
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''in mm:''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
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! 100%
 
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| M392A2 || APDS || 1478 || 4 || N/A || N/A || N/A || +1.5° || 75° || 78° || 80°
 
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| M393A2 || HESH || 732 || 14.85 || 0.4 || 0.1 || 4,310 || +0° || 73° || 77° || 80°
 
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| M456 || HEATFS || 1173 || 10.5 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 1,270 || +0° || 65° || 72° || 75°
 
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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[[File:Ammoracks M47.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the M47 (identical).]]
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[[File:Ammoracks M47 (105 55).png|thumb|272x272px|[[Ammo racks]] of the M47 (105/55)]]<!-- '''Last updated: 2.39.0.106''' -->
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! 4th<br>rack empty
 
! 4th<br>rack empty
 
! 5th<br>rack empty
 
! 5th<br>rack empty
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!6th<br>rack empty
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!7th<br>rack empty
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!8th<br>rack empty
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!9th<br>rack empty
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
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| '''71''' || 42&nbsp;''(+29)'' || 12&nbsp;''(+59)'' || 10&nbsp;''(+61)'' || 7&nbsp;''(+64)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+70)'' || No
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| '''70''' || 66&nbsp;''(+4)'' || 60&nbsp;''(+10)'' || 51&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 43&nbsp;''(+27)'' || 35&nbsp;''(+35)''  
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|27 (+43)
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|19 (+51)
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|11 (+59)
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|1 (+69)|| Yes
 
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'''Notes''':
  
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* As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
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* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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* Shells are modeled by sets of 2 and disappear from the rack after both shells in the set having been shot or loaded.
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* Rack 9 is a first stage ammo rack. It totals 10 shells and gets filled first when loading up the tank.
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* Racks 3 to 5 are first stage ammo racks. They total 11 shells and gets filled first when loading up the tank.
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* The 1st and 3rd racks have a visual discrepancy; the 1st rack is always missing a shell, and the 3rd shell in the 3rd rack holds 2 shells
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* These racks are also emptied early: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 3 - 4 - 5 - 1 - 2.
 
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* Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from racks 1-6 into racks 8 then 7. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.
 
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
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{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}
 
{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}
  
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! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
 
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! Mount
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
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! Total Ammo
 
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! Shots per Belt
 
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! {{Annotation|Fire rate|Shots per minute}}
 
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! Vertical guidance
 
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! Horizontal guidance
 
 
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| Pintle || 1,000 || 200 || 576 || -_°/+_° || ±180°
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| Pintle || 1,000 (200) || 577 || -10°/+50° || ±120°
 
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! colspan="5" | [[M1919A4 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm M1919A4]]
 
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
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! Total Ammo
 
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! Shots per Belt
 
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! {{Annotation|Fire rate|Shots per minute}}
 
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! Vertical guidance
 
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! Horizontal guidance
 
 
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| Coaxial || 4,900 || 250 || 500 || colspan="2" | Not Applicable (Fixed)
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| Coaxial || 5,000 (250) || 500 || N/A || N/A
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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The M47 is a slow pushing tank with a powerful anti-tank gun. It should not be used as frontline tank but rather as support tank. Its powerful gun is more than capable of dealing with 90% of the tanks it will see at any range. However, as you don't have enough armour to sustain HEATFS shells at that tier, you need to stay aware of your surroundings at all times. This will impact your combat performance and you'll have to adapt your tactics depending on the map. Search for sniping spots with available cover nearby, watch the inclination because your gun can't depress too much (-5°).
  
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=== Modules ===
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'''List of opponents important notes when facing frontally:'''
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* [[Panzer V Panther (Family)|Panther]]/[[M48 Patton (Family)|M48]]/[[M26 (Family)|Pershing]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS
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* [[M60 (Family)|M60]]: gun mantlet can be penetrated by APDS, hull has to be penetrated by HEATFS
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! Protection
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* [[Tiger II (Family)|Tiger II]]: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
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* [[Centurion (Family)|Centurion]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
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* [[M103]]: hull has to be penetrated by HEATFS, center of mass shot has to be done frontally as the hull and turret are curvy, hull is impenetrable by all rounds
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* [[T32]]/[[T32E1]]: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEATFS or APDS, aim at lower half of the frontal glacis to fire at ammunition rack
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| Tracks
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* [[Maus]]/[[E-100]]: gun mantlet has to be penetrated by HEATFS, hull is impenetrable by all rounds. Side shots have to be done with APDS or HEATFS.
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* [[Jagdtiger]]: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
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* [[Leopard 1 (Family)|Leopard 1]]/[[AMX-30 (Family)|AMX-30]]: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
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| Horizontal Drive
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* [[T95]]: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEATFS
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| Suspension
 
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| FPE
 
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| Adjustment of Fire
 
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| M393A2
 
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| III
 
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| Filters
 
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| Engine
 
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| M456
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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* Shot trap can deflect shells off the bottom of the turret mantlet and into the tank.
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* Shot trap can deflect shells off the bottom of the turret mantlet and into the hull's roof.
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* Armour can still be penetrated by most enemies, especially by HEATFS and Sabot rounds.
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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The story of the Italian M47 (105/55) starts during the 5th October 1952, Italy was modernizing its tanks and replacing the old M26 tanks they had in service. The Italian M47s came from America in the form of the MAP (Military Assistance Program), which foresaw the Italian army getting equipped with new M47 tanks, being delivered up until the 29th of December of that year when deliveries would finally be complete. Italy would end up using over 1,000 units in various different regiments. They would go on to serve in the Italian army for many years, until they were put out of service in favour of the American M60.
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The story of the M47 (105/55) upgrade would happen during the 1970s, OTO Melara had proposed to modernize Italian M47s by replacing its original M36 90 mm cannon with an OTO Melara 105 mm cannon. The 105 mm cannon was originally a 90 mm that was modified by OTO engineers, making the cannon longer and wider, which ended up allowing the new cannon to have a length of 55 calibres, instead of the 52 calibres of the 105 mm L7 cannons. This was mainly done to save money as OTO didn't want to pay for rights for the construction. The new cannon installed onto the M47 could fire a variety of munitions, such as HEATFS, APDS and HESH. Other changes included a new Continental ADVS 1750 diesel engine, already present on M60 tanks, that replaced the older more unreliable one. The new ADVS engine would have a more efficient diesel propulsion system, which was favoured. Although it was inferior in terms of overall output from the original engine, it being diesel-powered was the main reason it was chosen. Lastly, there would be installation at the rear of the vehicle that gave the hull a thermal suppressor that would reduce IR signatures of the tank. The tank was a great success during tests, with both Spanish and Pakistani crowds viewing the progress, who would be very interested in this vehicle, sadly the M47 upgrade never got picked up by the Italian army. It is unknown as to why, some have said due to costs, others have said it was political as Italy was setting its sights for the M60 tank, so it would've been much better to keep ties with America stronger by purchasing their vehicles, which Italy eventually bought later down the line to replace the M47.
  
 
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This page is about the Italian medium tank M47 (105/55). For other versions, see M47 (Family).
M47 (105/55)
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M47 (105/55)
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V Rank
Battle rating:
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Class:
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Description

The M47 (105/55) OTO is a rank V Italian medium tank with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull101 / 76 / 25
Turret121 / 63 / 76
Crew4 people
Visibility120 %

The M47's armour is a middle point between the M26 and an M48, it has decent hull armour which is able to stop full calibre solid shots from almost all vehicles it will face. However, it is not able to withstand sub-calibres like British APDS. Turret is inconsistent when it comes to full calibre and sub-calibres. Turret mantlet is able to withstand calibres lower than 105 mm but cheeks may even stop 122 mm. However they may not be able to stop sub-calibres from almost all calibres. Armour should not be relied on most of the cases due to inconsistency against threats seen in combat. However, this does not mean the armour should not be used at all. When facing Soviet and American tanks, armour is sufficient to completely shatter or partially stop the shell, this is due to full calibre APHE and APCBC have relatively low penetration (215 mm - 250 mm). The story changes when facing British APDS from 20-pdr (84 mm) to 120 mm. They have an equivalent or higher penetration than the M47 (105/55) APDS, meaning they will easily penetrate you without effort. Now, there are some aspects when it comes to APDS. Due to being sub-calibre, they have penetration over post-penetration effects. All the spalling is dependent on the armour thickness. This can be considered good or bad depending on where the APDS is being fired at. Hits to the hull frontal plate will most likely kill your driver and loader (if hit on the right side seen from the front) or gunner and commander (if hit on the left side seen from the front). Turret hits are often single-shot kills if fired in the right places. In a 60° frontal arc, all hits will take at most 2 crew members unless it is a high calibre round like the Conway's 120 mm. Past 60°, all hits are most likely to be single-shot kill, specially if the hit is made at a turret side as the breech is not big enough to stop the spalling. Hits on the turret back are confirmed kills, however, hits on the engine deck can be painful due to fire but will not instantly destroy the M47. The engine and transmission are big enough to stop all spalling and rounds it will see except darts.

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour (Front hull, turret, cupola)
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull sides, rear and roof, turret roof, cupola roof)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 101.6 mm (59°) Upper glacis
75 mm (24-76°) MG port bulge
170 mm obturated MG port
90 mm (52°) Lower glacis - Top
76.2 mm (27-54°) Lower glacis - Bottom 		76.2 mm Top - Front
38-50.8 mm Top - Rear
25.4 mm (67°) Bottom 		25 mm Upper plate - Centre
22.2 mm (1-64°) Lower glacis - Centre
38-50.8 mm Sides 		22.2 mm (0-16°)
25.4 mm (spherical) Front hatches
Turret 121 mm (spherical) Turret front - Centre and Bottom
101.6 mm Turret front - Top
62-74 mm Gun mantlet 		63.5 mm (22-27°)
16 mm (spherical) Optics port 		76.2-90 mm 25.4 mm
Cupola 76.2 mm (cylindrical) 76.2 mm (conical) Outer ring
25.4 mm Centre

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick and tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 25.4 mm thick.
  • Storage boxes and mudguards are 5 mm thick.
  • Turret bustle rack is 15 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB53 / 22 km/h
RB and SB48 / 20 km/h
Number of gears6 forward
2 back
Weight46.3 t
Engine power
AB1 431 hp
RB and SB750 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB30.9 hp/t
RB and SB16.2 hp/t

Mobility wise, the M47 is a fatter M26. Not too fast but not too slow either. It has a powerful engine that is able to pull and push almost all tanks in the battlefield while being able to maintain adequate mobility. It does not have neutral steering per se as it is not fully on its own axis. However it does have a really good reverse speed (for its size) as well as acceleration for both forward and reverse gears. Top speed is higher than the M26 but is not too fast, expect from a Patton tank.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 53 22 46.3 1,162 1,431 25.1 30.91
Realistic 48 20 663 750 14.32 16.2

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 307 → 5 642 Sl icon.png
RB4 815 → 6 307 Sl icon.png
SB6 791 → 8 896 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications87 700 Rp icon.png
147 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training86 000 Sl icon.png
Experts300 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces720 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 200 / 220 % Sl icon.png
196 / 196 / 196 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
Research:
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Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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Suspension
Research:
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Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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Brake System
Research:
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Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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Filters
Research:
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Cost:
9 200 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
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Transmission
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
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Improved Parts
Research:
4 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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Improved FPE
Research:
2 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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Crew Replenishment
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 200 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
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Horizontal Drive
Research:
6 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
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Adjustment of Fire
Research:
4 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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105mm_usa_HESH_ammo_pack
Research:
4 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 600 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
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Elevation Mechanism
Research:
5 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 200 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
Mods tank rangefinder.png
Rangefinder
Research:
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Cost:
9 200 Sl icon.png
230 Ge icon.png
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Artillery Support
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
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105mm_usa_HEAT_FS_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder

Main armament

105 mm OTO Melara 105/55 cannon
Ammunition70 rounds
First-order10 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
8.7 → 6.7 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 19°
Main article: OTO Melara 105/55 (105 mm)

This specific M47 is armed with the OTO Melara 105/55 cannon, the only M47 in-game to have a 105 mm gun. It is similar to the L7A3 Royal Ordnance 105 mm gun seen on other vehicles (Centurion Mk 10, Leopard 1, Vickers MBT) and the M68 105 mm gun (M60A1-A3). However, its handling is similar to the OTO Melara 105/52 of the Centauro, mainly for using exactly the same ammunition.

105 mm OTO Melara 105/55 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 71 -10°/+19° ±180° N/A 28.6 39.5 48.0 53.1 56.5 8.71 7.70 7.10 6.70
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0

Ammunition

This M47 is the most powerful M47 seen in-game firepower-wise. It has the same ammunition as the Centauro.

  • M392A2: despite being APDS and the stock round, this round is one of the most powerful sub-calibre rounds the Italians have access to at Rank 5. The penetration, flight speed and post-penetration effect are really great for beating almost all tanks it faces with exception of the T-55AM-1. This round is underestimated for the fact it does not have the same penetration the M456 has. However it comes more in handy to use APDS most of the time than HEATFS mainly for the fact that it can be used easier for longer engagements and will not detonate with trees and bushes.
  • M393A2: the HESH round is 90% of the time useless unless trap shots are involved. The use for it is really situational and it is much better to carry APDS or HEATFS for all anti-tank purposes.
  • M456: this is the pinnacle of heavy armour destroying, mainly for the fact that it has a continuous penetration through all its flight time. This is not recommended to be carried as the main shell for the previous statements. However it is recommended to carry some to defeat heavy armour the APDS is unable to penetrate.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M392A2 APDS 350 347 333 317 302 287
M393A2 HESH 127 127 127 127 127 127
M456 HEATFS 400 400 400 400 400 400
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M392A2 APDS 1,478 4 - - - 75° 78° 80°
M393A2 HESH 732 11.2 0.1 4 4.31 73° 77° 80°
M456 HEATFS 1,174 10.5 0.05 0.1 1.27 65° 72° 77°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the M47 (105/55)
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		8th
rack empty 		9th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
70 66 (+4) 60 (+10) 51 (+19) 43 (+27) 35 (+35) 27 (+43) 19 (+51) 11 (+59) 1 (+69) Yes

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • Rack 9 is a first stage ammo rack. It totals 10 shells and gets filled first when loading up the tank.
  • The 1st and 3rd racks have a visual discrepancy; the 1st rack is always missing a shell, and the 3rd shell in the 3rd rack holds 2 shells

Machine guns

12.7 mm M2HB machine gun
Ammunition1 000 rounds
Belt capacity200 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate575 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 50°
Horizontal guidance-120° / 120°
7.62 mm M1919A4 machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition5 000 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate500 shots/min
Main articles: M2HB (12.7 mm), M1919A4 (7.62 mm)
12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 1,000 (200) 577 -10°/+50° ±120°
7.62 mm M1919A4
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 5,000 (250) 500 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

The M47 is a slow pushing tank with a powerful anti-tank gun. It should not be used as frontline tank but rather as support tank. Its powerful gun is more than capable of dealing with 90% of the tanks it will see at any range. However, as you don't have enough armour to sustain HEATFS shells at that tier, you need to stay aware of your surroundings at all times. This will impact your combat performance and you'll have to adapt your tactics depending on the map. Search for sniping spots with available cover nearby, watch the inclination because your gun can't depress too much (-5°).

List of opponents important notes when facing frontally:

  • Panther/M48/Pershing: all front can be penetrated with APDS
  • M60: gun mantlet can be penetrated by APDS, hull has to be penetrated by HEATFS
  • Tiger II: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
  • Centurion: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
  • M103: hull has to be penetrated by HEATFS, center of mass shot has to be done frontally as the hull and turret are curvy, hull is impenetrable by all rounds
  • T32/T32E1: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEATFS or APDS, aim at lower half of the frontal glacis to fire at ammunition rack
  • Maus/E-100: gun mantlet has to be penetrated by HEATFS, hull is impenetrable by all rounds. Side shots have to be done with APDS or HEATFS.
  • Jagdtiger: all front can be penetrated by all rounds
  • Leopard 1/AMX-30: all front can be penetrated with APDS and higher penetration rounds
  • T95: gun mantlet and hull have to be penetrated by HEATFS

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Better main gun than on the original M47.
  • Decent frontal armour.
  • Has a .50 cal machine gun for warding off incoming airplanes.

Cons:

  • Shot trap can deflect shells off the bottom of the turret mantlet and into the hull's roof.
  • Armour can still be penetrated by most enemies, especially by HEATFS and Sabot rounds.

History

The story of the Italian M47 (105/55) starts during the 5th October 1952, Italy was modernizing its tanks and replacing the old M26 tanks they had in service. The Italian M47s came from America in the form of the MAP (Military Assistance Program), which foresaw the Italian army getting equipped with new M47 tanks, being delivered up until the 29th of December of that year when deliveries would finally be complete. Italy would end up using over 1,000 units in various different regiments. They would go on to serve in the Italian army for many years, until they were put out of service in favour of the American M60.

The story of the M47 (105/55) upgrade would happen during the 1970s, OTO Melara had proposed to modernize Italian M47s by replacing its original M36 90 mm cannon with an OTO Melara 105 mm cannon. The 105 mm cannon was originally a 90 mm that was modified by OTO engineers, making the cannon longer and wider, which ended up allowing the new cannon to have a length of 55 calibres, instead of the 52 calibres of the 105 mm L7 cannons. This was mainly done to save money as OTO didn't want to pay for rights for the construction. The new cannon installed onto the M47 could fire a variety of munitions, such as HEATFS, APDS and HESH. Other changes included a new Continental ADVS 1750 diesel engine, already present on M60 tanks, that replaced the older more unreliable one. The new ADVS engine would have a more efficient diesel propulsion system, which was favoured. Although it was inferior in terms of overall output from the original engine, it being diesel-powered was the main reason it was chosen. Lastly, there would be installation at the rear of the vehicle that gave the hull a thermal suppressor that would reduce IR signatures of the tank. The tank was a great success during tests, with both Spanish and Pakistani crowds viewing the progress, who would be very interested in this vehicle, sadly the M47 upgrade never got picked up by the Italian army. It is unknown as to why, some have said due to costs, others have said it was political as Italy was setting its sights for the M60 tank, so it would've been much better to keep ties with America stronger by purchasing their vehicles, which Italy eventually bought later down the line to replace the M47.

Media

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Videos
The Shooting Range #226 - Metal Beasts section at 00:28 discusses the M47 (105/55).
Best experimental vehicles discusses the M47 (105/55) at 3:41 - War Thunder Official Channel
The Patton Family discusses the M47 (105/55) at 4:42 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis

External links


OTO Melara
Light Tanks/IFVs 
Centauro  Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · VRCC
Dardo  Dardo · VCC-80/30 · VCC-80/60
Other  C13 T90 · R3 T106 FA
MBTs 
OF-40  OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA)
Ariete  Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV
Other  M47 (105/55)
Tank Destroyers  M113A1 (TOW)
SPAA  R3 T20 FA-HS · SIDAM 25 · SIDAM 25 (Mistral) · OTOMATIC
Patrol Boats 
Sparviero-class  Sparviero*
See Also  OTO
  *Built by OTO Melara in La Spezia under the Alinavi S.p.A. consortium

Italy medium tanks
  Italy
M13/40  M13/40 (I) · M13/40 (II) · M13/40 (III)
M14/41  M14/41 · M14/41 (47/40)
M15/42  M15/42
M16/43  Celere Sahariano
P26/40  P40 · P40 "G.C. Leoncello"
OF-40  OF-40 · OF-40 Mk.2A · OF-40 (MTCA)
Ariete  Ariete (P) · Ariete · Ariete PSO · Ariete AMV
Germany  ▄Pz.III N · ▄Pz.IV G · ▄Leopard 1A5
Allied powers  ▄Sherman I Composito · Sherman Ic · ▄Sherman Vc · ▄Sherman V · M26 "D.C.Ariete" · M26A1 · M47 (105/55) · M60A1 "D.C.Ariete"
  Hungary
Turán  Turan I · Turan II · Turan III
Germany  ◔Leopard 2A4 · Leopard 2A7HU
USSR  ◔T-72M1

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