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+ | {{About | ||
+ | | about = German jet fighter '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
+ | | usage = other versions | ||
+ | | link = F-4 Phantom II (Family) | ||
+ | }} | ||
{{Specs-Card | {{Specs-Card | ||
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics | ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics | ||
− | ! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at | + | ! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 12,192 m) |
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ||
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! Stock | ! Stock | ||
− | | | + | | 2,058 || 2,015 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 28.3 || 28.3 || 162.7 || 153.0 || rowspan="2" | 850 |
|- | |- | ||
! Upgraded | ! Upgraded | ||
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel) | ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | | colspan="2" | | + | | colspan="2" | MTU Aero Engines J79-MTU-17A || 2 |
− | | colspan="2" | | + | | colspan="2" | 14,375 kg || colspan="2" | 398 kg/m<sup>2</sup> |
|- | |- | ||
! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ||
− | ! | + | ! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel |
|- | |- | ||
− | | | + | | 1,724 kg || colspan="2" | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet |
− | | | + | | 15,941 kg || 18,196 kg || 19,595 kg || 24,471 kg |
|- | |- | ||
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | ||
− | ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m ( | + | ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) |
|- | |- | ||
− | ! Condition || 100% || | + | ! Condition || 100% || WEP |
− | ! | + | ! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel || MGW |
|- | |- | ||
− | | ''Stationary'' || | + | | ''Stationary'' || 5,200 kgf || 8,008 kgf |
− | | | + | | 1.00 || 0.88 || 0.82 || 0.65 |
|- | |- | ||
− | | ''Optimal'' || | + | | ''Optimal'' || 5,200 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || 10,170 kgf<br>(1,400 km/h) |
− | | | + | | 1.28 || 1.12 || 1.04 || 0.83 |
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | ||
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+ | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
+ | |||
+ | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%" | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! !! width="4%" | 1 !! width="4%" | 2 !! width="4%" | 3 !! width="4%" | 4 !! width="4%" | 5 !! width="4%" | 6 !! width="4%" | 7 !! width="4%" | 8 !! width="4%" | 9 !! width="4%" | 10 !! width="4%" | 11 | ||
+ | | rowspan="17" width="30%" | <div class="ttx-image">[[File:Hardpoints_F-4C_Phantom_II.png]]</div> | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[GAU-4 (20 mm)|20 mm GAU-4]] cannons (1,200 rpg) | ||
+ | | 1 || || || || || || || || || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|250 lb LDGP Mk 81]] bombs | ||
+ | | 6 || 3 || || || || 6 || || || || 3 || 6 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|500 lb LDGP Mk 82]] bombs | ||
+ | | 6 || 3 || || || || 6 || || || || 3 || 6 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Mk 82 Snakeye (500 lb)|500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye]] bombs | ||
+ | | 6 || 3 || || || || 6 || || || || 3 || 6 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[M117 cone 45 (750 lb)|750 lb M117 cone 45]] bombs | ||
+ | | 3 || 3 || || || || 5 || || || || 3 || 3 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83]] bombs | ||
+ | | 2 || 3 || || || || 3 || || || || 3 || 2 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)|2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84]] bombs | ||
+ | | 1 || || || || || 1 || || || || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[M118 (3,000 lb)|3,000 lb M118]] bombs | ||
+ | | || || || || || 1 || || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[BLU-27/B incendiary]] bombs | ||
+ | | 1 || || || || || 2 || || || || || 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[FFAR Mighty Mouse]] rockets | ||
+ | | 57 || 57 || || || || 57 || || || || 57 || 57 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP]] rockets | ||
+ | | 12 || 12 || || || || 12 || || || || 12 || 12 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AGM-65D]] missiles | ||
+ | | || 1 || || || || || || || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AGM-65G]] missiles | ||
+ | | || 1 || || || || || || || || 1 || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AIM-9L/I Sidewinder]] missiles | ||
+ | | || || 1, 2 || || || || || || 1, 2 || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! [[AIM-120A]] missiles | ||
+ | | || || || 1 || 1 || || 1 || 1 || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! 600 gal drop tanks | ||
+ | | || || || || || 1 || || || || || | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} | ||
{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}} | {{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}} | ||
{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | {{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}} | ||
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* 1 x 600 gal drop tank | * 1 x 600 gal drop tank | ||
* 2 x 20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) | * 2 x 20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg = 2,400 total) | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * | + | |
+ | * Gets access to AIM-120A and AIM-9L/I missiles | ||
+ | * Potent radar | ||
+ | * Good RWR | ||
+ | * Decent air-to-ground payload | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | |
+ | * Third-generation aircraft which almost only fights fourth-generation aircraft | ||
+ | * Only gets access to 90 countermeasures | ||
+ | * Poor handling | ||
+ | * Bad acceleration | ||
+ | * Inferior top speed compared to other aircraft | ||
+ | * No HMD | ||
+ | * Gets outclassed by every other plane it can face | ||
+ | * Pure CAS loadout reduces flight performance | ||
+ | * Stock loadout very limited | ||
== History == | == History == | ||
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+ | |||
+ | === [[wt:en/news/8943-development-f-4f-kws-lv-ice-arch-phantom-en|Devblog]] === | ||
+ | In the early 1980s, the Luftwaffe initiated a program to improve the combat effectiveness of the F-4F Phantom II then representing Germany's spearhead in air defense. Being launched due to delays in the development of what would eventually become the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-4F ICE as it became known, was intended to fill this gap until the more advanced aircraft became available. The main goal of the ICE program was to extend the service life of the F-4F by modernizing its avionics and electronic equipment as well as upgrading its radar to enable the aircraft to carry the powerful AIM-120 AMRAAM missile. | ||
+ | |||
+ | The upgrade process began in October 1988 and was carried out in several stages. The first finalized aircraft under the new program were commissioned in the early 1990s. The F-4F KWS LV (ICE) would then continue its service with the Luftwaffe until 2013 before it was ultimately phased out in favor of its successor, the Eurofighter Typhoon. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
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* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
+ | |||
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''other literature.'' --> | * ''other literature.'' --> | ||
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+ | * [[wt:en/news/8943-development-f-4f-kws-lv-ice-arch-phantom-en|[Devblog] F-4F KWS LV (ICE): Arch-Phantom!]] | ||
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+ | {{AirManufacturer McDonnell}} | ||
{{Germany jet aircraft}} | {{Germany jet aircraft}} |
Revision as of 22:14, 28 July 2024
This page is about the German jet fighter F-4F KWS LV (Germany). For other versions, see F-4 Phantom II (Family). |
Contents
Description
The ◄F-4F KWS LV (ICE) Phantom II is a rank VIII German jet fighter with a battle rating of 13.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Seek & Destroy".
General info
Flight performance
Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.
Characteristics | Max speed (km/h at 12,192 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 2,058 | 2,015 | 16000 | 28.3 | 28.3 | 162.7 | 153.0 | 850 |
Upgraded | ___ | ___ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
_ | _ | _ | _ | _ | _ |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1458 | 463 | ___ | ___ | ___ | ~__ | ~__ |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
---|---|---|---|
Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< ___ | < ___ | < ___ | - |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
MTU Aero Engines J79-MTU-17A | 2 | 14,375 kg | 398 kg/m2 | |||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Gross Weight | ||||
Weight (each) | Type | 8m fuel | 20m fuel | 27m fuel | ||
1,724 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 15,941 kg | 18,196 kg | 19,595 kg | 24,471 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | |||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 8m fuel | 20m fuel | 27m fuel | MGW |
Stationary | 5,200 kgf | 8,008 kgf | 1.00 | 0.88 | 0.82 | 0.65 |
Optimal | 5,200 kgf (0 km/h) |
10,170 kgf (1,400 km/h) |
1.28 | 1.12 | 1.04 | 0.83 |
Survivability and armour
Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Ballistic Computer | ||||
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CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) | EEGS |
Offensive armament
The F-4F KWS LV (Germany) is armed with:
- 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon, nose-mounted (640 rpg)
- 30 x large calibre countermeasures
- 60 x countermeasures
Suspended armament
The F-4F KWS LV (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | ||
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20 mm GAU-4 cannons (1,200 rpg) | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||
250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs | 6 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 6 | |||||||
500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs | 6 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 6 | |||||||
500 lb Mk 82 Snakeye bombs | 6 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 6 | |||||||
750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs | 3 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 3 | |||||||
1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 2 | |||||||
2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs | 1 | 1 | 1 | |||||||||
3,000 lb M118 bombs | 1 | |||||||||||
BLU-27/B incendiary bombs | 1 | 2 | 1 | |||||||||
FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets | 57 | 57 | 57 | 57 | 57 | |||||||
Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | |||||||
AGM-65D missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||
AGM-65G missiles | 1 | 1 | ||||||||||
AIM-9L/I Sidewinder missiles | 1, 2 | 1, 2 | ||||||||||
AIM-120A missiles | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||
600 gal drop tanks | 1 |
Default weapon presets | |
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Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Gets access to AIM-120A and AIM-9L/I missiles
- Potent radar
- Good RWR
- Decent air-to-ground payload
Cons:
- Third-generation aircraft which almost only fights fourth-generation aircraft
- Only gets access to 90 countermeasures
- Poor handling
- Bad acceleration
- Inferior top speed compared to other aircraft
- No HMD
- Gets outclassed by every other plane it can face
- Pure CAS loadout reduces flight performance
- Stock loadout very limited
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Devblog
In the early 1980s, the Luftwaffe initiated a program to improve the combat effectiveness of the F-4F Phantom II then representing Germany's spearhead in air defense. Being launched due to delays in the development of what would eventually become the Eurofighter Typhoon, the F-4F ICE as it became known, was intended to fill this gap until the more advanced aircraft became available. The main goal of the ICE program was to extend the service life of the F-4F by modernizing its avionics and electronic equipment as well as upgrading its radar to enable the aircraft to carry the powerful AIM-120 AMRAAM missile.
The upgrade process began in October 1988 and was carried out in several stages. The first finalized aircraft under the new program were commissioned in the early 1990s. The F-4F KWS LV (ICE) would then continue its service with the Luftwaffe until 2013 before it was ultimately phased out in favor of its successor, the Eurofighter Typhoon.
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
McDonnell Aircraft Corporation | |
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Jet Fighters | F2H-2 · F3H-2 |
F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II · F-4J Phantom II · F-4S Phantom II | |
F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E | |
Strike Aircraft | AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA) |
Helicopters | AH-6M |
Export/Licensed | |
Aircraft | ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV · Phantom FG.1 · Phantom FGR.2 · F-4J(UK) Phantom II · F-4EJ Phantom II · F-4EJ ADTW · Kurnass · Kurnass 2000 |
F-15J · F-15J(M) · Baz · Baz Meshupar · F-15I Ra’am | |
▄AV-8B Plus | |
Helicopters | Lahatut |
The McDonnell Aircraft Corporation merged with Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967 to form McDonnell Douglas Corporation. Later it was merged with The Boeing Company in 1997. | |
See Also | Mitsubishi Heavy Industries |
Germany jet aircraft | |
---|---|
Luftwaffe | |
He 162 | He 162 A-1 · He 162 A-2 |
Me 163 | Me 163 B · Me 163 B-0 |
Ho 229 | Ho 229 V3 |
Ar 234 | Ar 234 B-2 · Ar 234 C-3 |
Me 262 | Me 262 A-1a · Me 262 A-1a/Jabo · Me 262 A-1a/U1 · Me 262 A-1/U4 · Me 262 A-2a |
Me 262 C-1a · Me 262 C-2b | |
LSK | |
Fighters | ◊MiG-15bis · ◊Lim-5P · ◊MiG-19S |
◊MiG-21MF · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" | |
◊MiG-29 | |
Attackers | ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA |
◊Su-22UM3K · ◊Su-22M4 | |
◊IL-28 | |
Luftwaffe | |
F-84 | ◄F-84F |
F-86 | ◄CL-13A Mk 5 · ◄CL-13B Mk.6 · ◄F-86K |
F-104 | ◄F-104G |
F-4 | ◄F-4F Early · ◄F-4F · ◄F-4F KWS LV |
G.91 | ◄G.91 R/3 · ◄G.91 R/4 |
Tornado | ◄Tornado IDS WTD61 · ◄Tornado IDS MFG · ◄Tornado IDS ASSTA1 |
Other | Alpha Jet A · ◄Sea Hawk Mk.100 |
Ex-LSK | ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◄MiG-29G · ◄Su-22M4 WTD61 |
Swiss Air Force | |
◌Hunter F.58 · FFA P-16 |