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== Description ==
 
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In 1977, the Hungarian People's Republic Air Force started receiving the [[MiG-21bis]] to supplement their fighter-interceptor fleet alongside their recently acquired [[MiG-21MF (Italy)|MiG-21MF]] fleet. Hungary would receive exactly 63 of the type, with 39 of them being the "Fishbed-L" variant, equipped with the Lazur-M GCI (Ground Controlled Intercept) guidance system. The other 24 would be the "Fishbed-N" variant, equipped with the Polyot-OI landing system instead. To differentiate the two variants, the aircraft received unique names in export service, with the Polyot equipped variant being called '''MiG-21bis-SAU'''., with SAU standing for ''Sistema Avtomaticheskovo Upravleniya.'' The only way to visually tell apart the two aircraft is by a single antenna under the forward fuselage, which is missing on one of the variants due to its different guidance system, or by the countermeasures system; the Lazur equipped MiG-21bis had the wiring required for build-in ASO-2 countermeasure dispensers in the rear of the fuselage, while the Polyot equipped versions did not have this wiring and required an external SPS-141 countermeasures pod.
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In 1977, the Hungarian People's Republic Air Force started receiving the [[MiG-21bis]] to supplement their fighter-interceptor fleet alongside their recently acquired [[MiG-21MF (Italy)|MiG-21MF]] fleet. Hungary would receive exactly 63 of the type, with 39 of them being the "Fishbed-L" variant, equipped with the Lazur-M GCI (Ground Controlled Intercept) guidance system. The other 24 would be the "Fishbed-N" variant, equipped with the Polyot-OI landing system instead. To differentiate the two variants, the aircraft received unique names in export service, with the Polyot equipped variant being called '''MiG-21bis-SAU''' (''Sistema Avtomaticheskovo Upravleniya''). The only way to visually tell apart the two aircraft is by a single antenna under the forward fuselage, which is missing on one of the variants due to its different guidance system, or by the countermeasure system; the Lazur equipped MiG-21bis had the wiring required for build-in ASO-2 countermeasure dispensers in the rear of the fuselage, while the Polyot equipped versions did not have this wiring and required an external SPS-141 countermeasures pod.
  
Introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Hungarian aircraft found in the Italian tech tree, and builds upon the playstyle of the previous [[MiG-21MF (Italy)|MiG-21MF]] in the tree, relying a lot more on its incredible flight performance to utilize hit-and-run tactics against unsuspecting enemies, and to dogfight its way out of most trouble it finds its way in. The MiG-21bis may have great flight performance and engine power, but lacks in most other departments. Being a delta wing, its energy retention is abysmal, although that problem is slightly mitigated by the very powerful engine, which can quickly regain speed if the aircraft safely disengages and flies in a straight line. The aircraft's avionics and suspended weaponry is where the largest let-down is. While other aircraft at your battle rating range will have pulse-doppler radars, powerful missiles with IRCCM, and very informative RWR systems, the MiG-21bis has none of that. Instead, you get what is easily one of the worst dedicated radar sets at this battle rating, subpar missiles, a complete lack of BVR capability, and the weak SPO-10 RWR system. All in all, the MiG-21bis falls under the same loop of the late Fishbed family, relying a lot more on the skill of the pilot due to its strong flight performance and weak systems. It is truly a hard plane to learn, but a very rewarding one if mastered correctly. One must keep in mind in mixed battles that the weight and drag of the SPS-141 Countermeasures pod makes the Bis-SAU very slightly (so slightly that its barely noticable) worse in flight performance than the Lazur equipped versions with built-in flares, so avoid extended dogfights with Lazur equipped Fishbeds.
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Introduced in [[Update "Alpha Strike"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Hungarian aircraft found in the Italian tech tree, and builds upon the playstyle of the previous [[MiG-21MF (Italy)|MiG-21MF]] in the tree, relying a lot more on its incredible flight performance to utilize hit-and-run tactics against unsuspecting enemies, and to dogfight its way out of most trouble it finds its way in. The MiG-21bis may have great flight performance and engine power, but lacks in most other departments. Being a delta wing, its energy retention is abysmal, although that problem is slightly mitigated by the very powerful engine, which can quickly regain speed if the aircraft safely disengages and flies in a straight line. The aircraft's avionics and suspended weaponry is where the largest let-down is. While other aircraft at your battle rating range will have pulse-doppler radars, powerful missiles with IRCCM, and very informative RWR systems, the MiG-21bis has none of that. Instead, you get what is easily one of the worst dedicated radar sets at this battle rating, subpar missiles, a complete lack of BVR capability, and the weak SPO-10 RWR system. All in all, the MiG-21bis falls under the same loop of the late Fishbed family, relying a lot more on the skill of the pilot due to its strong flight performance and weak systems. It is truly a hard plane to learn, but a very rewarding one if mastered correctly. One must keep in mind in mixed battles that the weight and drag of the SPS-141 Countermeasures pod makes the Bis-SAU very slightly (so slightly that its barely noticeable) worse in flight performance than the Lazur equipped versions with built-in flares, so avoid extended dogfights with Lazur equipped Fishbeds.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==

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Description

In 1977, the Hungarian People's Republic Air Force started receiving the MiG-21bis to supplement their fighter-interceptor fleet alongside their recently acquired MiG-21MF fleet. Hungary would receive exactly 63 of the type, with 39 of them being the "Fishbed-L" variant, equipped with the Lazur-M GCI (Ground Controlled Intercept) guidance system. The other 24 would be the "Fishbed-N" variant, equipped with the Polyot-OI landing system instead. To differentiate the two variants, the aircraft received unique names in export service, with the Polyot equipped variant being called MiG-21bis-SAU (Sistema Avtomaticheskovo Upravleniya). The only way to visually tell apart the two aircraft is by a single antenna under the forward fuselage, which is missing on one of the variants due to its different guidance system, or by the countermeasure system; the Lazur equipped MiG-21bis had the wiring required for build-in ASO-2 countermeasure dispensers in the rear of the fuselage, while the Polyot equipped versions did not have this wiring and required an external SPS-141 countermeasures pod.

Introduced in Update "Alpha Strike", the ◔MiG-21bis-SAU is a Hungarian aircraft found in the Italian tech tree, and builds upon the playstyle of the previous MiG-21MF in the tree, relying a lot more on its incredible flight performance to utilize hit-and-run tactics against unsuspecting enemies, and to dogfight its way out of most trouble it finds its way in. The MiG-21bis may have great flight performance and engine power, but lacks in most other departments. Being a delta wing, its energy retention is abysmal, although that problem is slightly mitigated by the very powerful engine, which can quickly regain speed if the aircraft safely disengages and flies in a straight line. The aircraft's avionics and suspended weaponry is where the largest let-down is. While other aircraft at your battle rating range will have pulse-doppler radars, powerful missiles with IRCCM, and very informative RWR systems, the MiG-21bis has none of that. Instead, you get what is easily one of the worst dedicated radar sets at this battle rating, subpar missiles, a complete lack of BVR capability, and the weak SPO-10 RWR system. All in all, the MiG-21bis falls under the same loop of the late Fishbed family, relying a lot more on the skill of the pilot due to its strong flight performance and weak systems. It is truly a hard plane to learn, but a very rewarding one if mastered correctly. One must keep in mind in mixed battles that the weight and drag of the SPS-141 Countermeasures pod makes the Bis-SAU very slightly (so slightly that its barely noticeable) worse in flight performance than the Lazur equipped versions with built-in flares, so avoid extended dogfights with Lazur equipped Fishbeds.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 13 000 m2 240 km/h
Turn time37 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineTumansky R-25-300
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight10 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at _,___ m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 16000 __._ __._ __._ __._ ___
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
_ _ _ _ _ _
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1365 700 ___ ___ ___ ~__ ~__
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< ___ < ___ < ___ -

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
_____ _ _,___ kg ___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel
___ kg ___ _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg _,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition 100% ___%/WEP _m fuel __m fuel __m fuel MGW
Stationary ___ kgf ___ kgf _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Optimal ___ kgf
(_ km/h)
___ kgf
(_ km/h)
_.__ _.__ _.__ _.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff
Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar
Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 365 km/h
Gear700 km/h

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Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 838 → 4 092 Sl icon.png
RB8 121 → 11 710 Sl icon.png
SB8 295 → 11 961 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications264 000 Rp icon.png
413 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 900 Ge icon.png
Crew training240 000 Sl icon.png
Experts830 000 Sl icon.png
Aces3 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 140 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
238 / 238 / 238 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
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Compressor
Research:
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Cost:
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New boosters
Research:
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Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
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Wings repair
Research:
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Cost:
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G-suit
Research:
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Cost:
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Engine
Research:
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Cost:
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Airframe
Research:
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Cost:
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Cover
Research:
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Cost:
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Flares/Chaff
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
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ZB-500
Research:
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Cost:
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R-3S
Research:
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Cost:
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FAB-250
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
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UB-16
Research:
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Cost:
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R-3R
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
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ns23_belt_pack
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FAB-500
Research:
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Cost:
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UB-32
Research:
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Cost:
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R-13M
Research:
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Cost:
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ns23_new_gun
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
S-24
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
470 Ge icon.png
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R-60MK
Research:
12 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
19 000 Sl icon.png
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Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs) EEGS
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png

Offensive armament

Main article: GSh-23L (23 mm)

The MiG-21bis-SAU (Italy) is armed with:

  • 1 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannon, belly-mounted (250 rpg)

Suspended armament

The MiG-21bis-SAU (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5
Hardpoints MiG-21bis.png
100 kg OFAB-100 bombs 4 4
250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs 1 1
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs 1 1
ZB-500 incendiary bombs 1 1
S-5K rockets 16 16, 32 16, 32 16
S-24 rockets 1 1 1 1
R-3R missiles 1 1 1 1
R-3S missiles 1 1 1 1
R-13M1 missiles 1 1 1 1
R-60MK missiles 1, 2 1 1 1, 2
Countermeasures 64
490 l drop tanks 1 1 1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 570 kg
Default weapon presets
  • 3 x 490 l drop tanks
  • 2 x R-60MK missiles
  • 4 x R-3S missiles
  • 4 x R-3R missiles
  • 4 x R-13M1 missiles
  • 4 x R-60MK missiles
  • 6 x R-60MK missiles
  • 64 x S-5K rockets
  • 64 x S-5K rockets
  • 4 x S-24 rockets
  • 8 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (800 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg FAB-250M-62 bombs (500 kg total)
  • 2 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 2 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
  • 64 x countermeasures

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Cons:

History

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Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau (Микоя́н и Гуре́вич Опытное конструкторское бюро)
Fighters  MiG-3-15 · MiG-3-15 (BK) · MiG-3-34
  I-225
Jet fighters  MiG-9 · MiG-9 (l)
  MiG-15 · MiG-15bis · MiG-15bis ISh
  MiG-17
  MiG-19PT
  MiG-21F-13 · MiG-21PFM · MiG-21S (R-13-300) · MiG-21SMT · MiG-21bis
  MiG-23M · MiG-23ML · MiG-23MLD
  MiG-27M · MiG-27K
  MiG-29 · MiG-29SMT
Export/Licensed  ␗MiG-9 · ␗MiG-9 (l)
  ◊MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-15bis · J-2*
  MiG-17AS · ◔MiG-17PF · J-4* · Shenyang F-5*
  ◊MiG-19S · J-6A*
  ◄MiG-21 SPS-K · ◊MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21MF · ▄MiG-21bis · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21bis-SAU · ◊MiG-21 "Lazur-M" · ▄MiG-21 Bison · J-7II**
  ◊MiG-23BN · ◊MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-23MF · ◊MiG-23MLA
  ◔MiG-29 · ◊MiG-29 · ◄MiG-29G
  *Licensed and domesticated with Chinese designations.
  **Unlicensed, reverse-engineered and domesticated with Chinese designations.
See Also  Shenyang · Chengdu

Italy jet aircraft
Aerfer  Sagittario 2 · Ariete
Fiat  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 (Portugal) · G.91 Y · G.91 YS
AMX International  AMX · AMX A-1A (Brazil)
Panavia  Tornado ADV · ▄Tornado IDS · ▄Tornado IDS (1995)
  Foreign:
Vampire  Vampire FB 52A
F-84  ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE
F-86  CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K
F-104  ▄F-104G · F-104S · ▄F-104S TAF (Turkey) · F-104S.ASA
F-16  ▄F-16A ADF
AV-8  ▄AV-8B Plus
Hungary 
Mikoyan-Gurevich  ◔MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-17PF · ◔MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◔MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-29
Ilyushin  ◔IL-28
Sukhoi  ◔Su-22M3
Saab  ◔JAS39EBS HU C