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F-104S.ASA
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F-104S.ASA
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Description

The F-104S.ASA Starfighter is a rank VII Italian jet fighter with a battle rating of 11.0 (AB/SB) and 11.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Wind of Change".

The F-104S.ASA is an Italian supersonic interceptor based on the American Lockheed F-104 "Starfighter" series. The external appearance is much the same besides the additional ventral fins, but as the final variant of the Starfighter family, it boasts the best speed and payload capacity of any F-104. It can be used as a high-speed ground attacker with a sizeable load of assorted bombs and rockets. Alternatively, it can be a deadly interceptor if equipped with air-to-air missiles. Unique among Starfighters is its ability to carry a pair of Selenia Aspide semi-active radar homing missiles.

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 15 240 m2 387 km/h
Turn time34 s
Max altitude16 000 m
EngineGeneral Electric J79-GE-19
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight24 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 15,240 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,344 2,316 16000 34.5 34.7 225.5 216.5 850
Upgraded 2,431 2,387 33.5 34.0 297.4 260.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,527 546 N/A 827 444 ~12 ~4
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J79-GE-19 1 6,850 kg 562 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 32m fuel
1,740 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,710 kg 8,621 kg 9,506 kg 9,718 kg 24,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 32m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,992 kgf 7,688 kgf 1.00 0.89 0.80 0.79 0.32
Optimal 5,044 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
10,253 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.33 1.18 1.07 1.06 0.43

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear546 km/h

The F-104S.ASA is not equipped with any armour plating, and is therefore rather vulnerable to enemy fire, especially given the fact that most enemies at this rank sport high-calibre cannons. Taking any critical damage in the F-104S.ASA will almost instantly cripple it, to the point where you will have to fly back to base, or be a sitting duck for the enemy team. Taking a critical hit to the fuselage will disable you so badly you won't be able to reach supersonic speeds, which is your greatest advantage. The same goes for taking any sort of wing damage or tail damage: it will instantly result in a huge amount of drag on the air frame, reducing your already poor energy retention in manoeuvres making you an easy target to pick off from afar and in effective gun range. Lastly, the engine is a massive target for guns and missiles alike. Having a slightly orange engine will effectively put you out of the fight. And with the already heavy weight of the F-104S.ASA, you require the engine power to stay in the fight.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB8 790 → 13 369 Sl icon.png
RB12 510 → 19 027 Sl icon.png
SB11 410 → 17 354 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications486 000 Rp icon.png
452 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 800 Ge icon.png
Crew training260 000 Sl icon.png
Experts930 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 800 Ge icon.png
Research Aces1 080 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 270 / 480 % Sl icon.png
232 / 232 / 232 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
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Compressor
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
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New boosters
Research:
22 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
30 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
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Engine
Research:
32 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
22 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
30 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
32 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
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M60_belt_pack
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
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BLU-1
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
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Flares/Chaff
Research:
16 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-3/A
Research:
22 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
M117
Research:
22 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9L
Research:
22 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
20 000 Sl icon.png
400 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
M60_new_gun
Research:
30 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
30 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
550 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket large.png
LAU-10/A
Research:
32 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
32 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air midrange missile.png
Aspide
Research:
32 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
30 000 Sl icon.png
590 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
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Offensive armament

The F-104S.ASA is armed with:

  • A choice between two presets:
    • Without offensive armament
    • 60 x countermeasures

Suspended armament

The F-104S.ASA can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon (750 rpg)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 4 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles
  • 2 x Aspide-1A missiles
  • 2 x Aspide-1A missiles + 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 6 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (3,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (4,500 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 6 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles (4,500 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 2 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs + 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb (2,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 1 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bomb + 2 x AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles (2,000 lb total)
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 76 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 8 x Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets + 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 1 x 20 mm M61A1 cannon + 5 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs

Custom loadout options

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
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20 mm M61A1 cannons (750 rpg) 1
500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs 1 1 1 1 1 1
750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs 1 1 1 1 1 1
1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs 1 1
2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs 1
BLU-1 incendiary bombs 1 1 1 1 1 1
FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets 19 19 19 19
Zuni Mk32 Mod 0 ATAP rockets 4 4
AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles 1 1 1 1
Aspide-1A missiles* 1 1
Aspide aim block* 1
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 500 kg
* The "Aspide aim block" must be selected to use Aspide-1A missiles, replacing the 20 mm M61A1.

Usage in battles

The one thing the F-104S.ASA does extremely well is speed, it is one of the vehicle's greatest advantage, and can be used to great effect if the pilot is careful about choosing which engagements to pursue. It is recommended to keep up a high air-speed at all times, which will allow the F-104S.ASA to swoop in and out of the combat zone while evading enemies. Sometimes, it is even possible to outrun enemy air-to-air missiles.

However, the F-104S.ASA struggles with manoeuvrability. With such small wings, it simply can't produce the lift necessary to throw itself around the sky, and therefore has a very poor turning circle. This means that any turning engagement is most likely futile, and also re-emphasises the utility of a boom and zoom playstyle.

When used in conjunction with its speed, the available armaments really allow the F-104S.ASA to shine. The AIM-9Ls, already difficult to dodge with their good manoeuvrability and flare-resistance, become nigh-on impossible to avoid when launched at supersonic speeds, particularly against much slower targets. The Selenia Aspide can also be a welcome addition in a high-altitude, long-range, all-aspect engagement however you will have to compromise for the 20mm Vulcan. Speaking of which, the extremely accurate and powerful M61A1 Vulcan cannon can be used instead for quick head-ons and to mop any remaining opponents at close-range.

Unlike the F104S, the ASA is able to bring countermeasures to give it a fighting chance against the top dogs of the air. Your main enemies will be aircraft such as the F-14 Tomcat or the MiG-27, it's best to try and avoid close engagements and instead focus on picking people from afar. As previously mentioned, you will not be able to turn well at high speeds so make sure that every person you engage won't become a threat if things don't go your way.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Excellent top speed and acceleration
  • Fantastic climb rate
  • All-aspect AIM-9Ls have very good tracking, range, and turning capability, as well as significant flare resistance
  • Equipped with Aspide-1A SARH missiles with great tracking and range as well as a look-down/shoot-down radar
  • Equipped with 60 countermeasures

Cons:

  • Very poor manoeuvrability
  • M61A1 cannon cannot be carried when Aspide missiles are equipped
  • No guided air-to-ground weaponry
  • RWR only alerts you of radar pings/locks; it does not show what direction they come from
  • The ACM mode of the radar only has a range of 4KMs,being difficult to lock in head ons or environments with a lot of interference from the other planes
  • The radar does not have an adjustable horizontal scan angle,and having a slow scan

History

Main article: History of the F-104S

An upgrade program was carried out in the 1980s while the Italian military was working on the Eurofighter Typhoon, resulting in the F-104S-ASA (Amodernamento Sistema Arma; "Weapon Systems Upgrade"). The ASA is differentiated by the additions of the AIM-9L Sidewinder missile and the Italian Selenia Aspide semi-active radar homing missile. The avionics, countermeasure systems, and weapons were improved, however the cannon could not be carried along with the missile guidance equipment due to improvements in avionics. The ASA was also tested with Flare and Chaff pods, which was also one of the notable improvements over the S variant. The ASA would be updated once more beginning in 1995-1997 to the ASA/M standard. The changes were relatively minor and limited to the addition of modern AIM-9Ls, overhauling the electrical system, and adding new navigation features. These changes also resulted in a pure interceptor and therefore could not carry rockets or bombs.

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