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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
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Revision as of 09:48, 24 December 2020

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
F-104C
f-104c.png
F-104C
AB RB SB
9.7 9.3 9.7
Research:94 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:520 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
Show in game
This page is about the jet fighter F-104C. For other versions, see F-104 (Family).

Description

GarageImage F-104C.jpg


The F-104C Starfighter is a rank VI American jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB/SB) and 9.3 (RB). It was introduced in Update "Starfighters".

General info

Flight performance

Arrestor gear
Accelerates braking by grabbing the brake cable on the deck of the aircraft carrier
Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 10 668 m2 142 km/h
Turn time34 s
Max altitude17 678 m
EngineGeneral Electric J79-GE-7a
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight24 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 10,668 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 2,098 2,073 17678 34.5 35.0 204.5 196.2 1,200
Upgraded ___ ___ __._ __._ __._ __._

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
0 546 N/A 833 444 ~13 ~5
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 720 < 950 < 800 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic Mass Wing loading (full fuel)
General Electric J79-GE-7a 1 6,330 kg 519 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel
1,540 kg Afterburning axial-flow turbojet 7,130 kg 7,929 kg 8,729 kg 8,969 kg 24,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP)
Condition 100% WEP 10m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel 33m fuel MTOW
Stationary 4,128 kgf 6,357 kgf 0.89 0.80 0.73 0.71 0.26
Optimal 4,128 kgf
(0 km/h)
8,391 kgf
(1,200 km/h)
1.18 1.06 0.96 0.94 0.35

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear546 km/h

In terms of armour, there is no armour on the F-104A. Since the F-104A relies on high speed, it wouldn't need armour as that would reduce the speed and maneuverability of the plane. The F-104A is a very long plane and it is not very maneuverable, making it a large, easy target for enemy guns. As such, the only characteristic that should be relied upon for survivability is the plane's speed. It is very quick, and as such is hard to catch. Of course, it's not quicker than a missile!

  • No Armor
  • Self-Sealing Fuel Tanks

Modifications and economics

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 138 → 4 160 Sl icon.png
RB10 323 → 13 688 Sl icon.png
SB10 098 → 13 389 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications167 000 Rp icon.png
261 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 600 Ge icon.png
Crew training150 000 Sl icon.png
Experts520 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 400 Ge icon.png
Research Aces950 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 380 / 600 % Sl icon.png
220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
9 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
9 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
M60_belt_pack
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-1
Research:
11 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
M117
Research:
9 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods air to air missile.png
AIM-9B
Research:
9 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods weapon.png
M60_new_gun
Research:
14 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
22 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
LAU-3/A
Research:
18 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
28 000 Sl icon.png
570 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M61 (20 mm)

The F-104C is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm M61 cannon, -mounted (750 rpg)

Suspended armament

The F-104C can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs (2,250 lb total)
  • 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles
  • 3 x 750 lb M117 cone 45 bombs + 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles (2,250 lb total)
  • 2 x AIM-9B Sidewinder missiles + 38 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Offensive 20 mm
II Compressor Airframe M117 AIM-9B
III Wings repair Engine New 20 mm cannons
IV G-suit Cover RWR LAU-3/A

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good top speed, on par with the highest-tier aircraft
  • Great rate of climb; even the F-4 Phantom may struggle to match it
  • Good roll rate for a jet with tiny wings
  • Decent high-speed manoeuvrability
  • Powerful M61 Vulcan cannon can rip enemy aircraft to shreds
  • Much-improved selection of secondary ordinance over the F-104A

Cons:

  • Lousy low-speed manoeuvrability
  • Bleeds energy easily in sustained turn fights
  • Limited afterburner in Arcade Battles
  • Only 750 rounds of cannon ammo; with such a high rate of fire, trigger discipline is a must

History

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Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Lockheed Corporation
Fighters  XP-38G · P-38E · P-38G-1 · P-38J-15 · Bong's P-38J-15 · P-38K · P-38L-5-LO · YP-38
Bombers  B-34 · PV-2D
Jet Fighters  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
  F-104A · F-104C
Strike Aircraft  F-117
Export / License  A-29 · ▄Hudson Mk V
  ␗P-38L-1
  ␗F-104A · ▀F-104G · ␗F-104G · ▄F-104G · ▅F-104J · ▄F-104S
  The Lockheed Corporation merged with Martin Marietta Corporation in 1995 to form Lockheed Martin Corporation.
See Also  SABCA · Mitsubishi Heavy Industries · Fiat Aviation

USA jet aircraft
  Fighters
F9F  F9F-2 · F9F-5 · F9F-8
F-80  F-80A-5 · F-80C-10
F-84  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
F-86  F-86A-5 · F-86F-25 · F-86F-2 · F-86F-35
F-89  F-89B · F-89D
F-100  F-100D
F-104  F-104A · F-104C
F-4  F-4C Phantom II · F-4E Phantom II · F-4J Phantom II · F-4S Phantom II
F-5  F-5A · F-5C · F-5E · F-20A
F-8  F8U-2 · F-8E
F-14  F-14A Early · ▄F-14A IRIAF · F-14B
F-15  F-15A · F-15C MSIP II · F-15E
F-16  F-16A · F-16A ADF · F-16C
Other  P-59A · F2H-2 · F3D-1 · F3H-2 · F4D-1 · F11F-1
  Strike Aircraft
FJ-4  FJ-4B · FJ-4B VMF-232
A-4  A-4B · A-4E Early
A-7  A-7D · A-7E · A-7K
AV-8  AV-8A · AV-8C · AV-8B Plus · AV-8B (NA)
A-10  A-10A · A-10A Late · A-10C
F-111  F-111A · F-111F
Other  A-6E TRAM · F-105D · F-117
  Bombers
B-57  B-57A · B-57B