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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_SU-100Y.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The SU-100Y was a Soviet prototype developed from the chassis of the T-100 heavy tank prototype in the Winter War. The vehicle was intended to fill a similar purpose as that of the KV-2, using its 130mm naval gun to provide support to infantry against fortified positions. The use of a high velocity 152mm gun was also proposed. The tank never made it past a prototype phase, although the single prototype built was reportedly used in the defence of Moscow in 1941. The sole model in existence is currently preserved at the Kubinka Tank Museum.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.51 "Cold Steel"]]. A rather large profile tank destroyer on-par with the [[KV-2 (1939)|KV-2]], but with a much more powerful 130 mm naval cannon, it serves well as a defensive vehicle against an offensive force.
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.51 "Cold Steel"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a very heavy tank destroyer with an extremely powerful gun. The tank features mediocre armour at the front, and can be penetrated with ease by most enemies around its BR at close ranges. Its mobility can be considered average at best, reaching it's top speed relatively quickly for a tank of it's size, although the reverse speed is very poor. Its gun is a 130mm B-13 naval gun which uses SAPCBC as its regular ammo. Boasting a large amount of explosive filler and high penetration even at long ranges, the SU-100Y has no trouble destroying enemy tanks.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
 
'''Armour type:'''
  
*Rolled homogeneous armour
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
*Cast homogeneous armour (Rear hatch)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (rear hatch)
  
 
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'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
  
*Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while the tracks are 30 mm thick.
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* Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while the tracks are 30 mm thick.
*The protection is only 60mm thick at its strongest. So it will not absorb any rounds anytime soon. Weapon calibres exceeding 20mm can pierce the armour, turning SPAAG into a real threat, if close enough. It is a good idea to stay with teammates or remain at distance from the main battle.
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* The protection is only 60 mm thick at its strongest. Weapon calibres exceeding 20 mm can pierce the armour, turning SPAAG into a real threat, if close enough. It is a good idea to stay with teammates or remain at distance from the main battle.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,207|rbMinHp=752}}
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|B-13 (130 mm)}}
 
{{main|B-13 (130 mm)}}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="6" | [[B-13 (130 mm)|130 mm B-13]]
 
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
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| colspan="3" | 30 || -5°/+15° || ±10° || N/A
 
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
 
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
 
! style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
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| ''Arcade'' || 4.20 || 5.80 || _.__ || __._ || __._
 
 
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| ''Realistic'' || 4.20 || 4.90 || _.__ || __._ || __._
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! colspan="5" | [[B-13 (130 mm)|130 mm B-13]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
 
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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| rowspan="2" | 30 || rowspan="2" | -5°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±10° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 6.16 || 8.53 || 10.36 || 11.46 || 12.19 || rowspan="2" | 24.96 || rowspan="2" | 22.08 || rowspan="2" | 20.35 || rowspan="2" | 19.20
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
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| 25.00 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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! ''Realistic''
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| 4.17 || 4.90 || 5.95 || 6.58 || 7.00
 
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===== Ammunition =====
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==== Ammunition ====
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{{:B-13 (130 mm)/Ammunition|PB-46A, OF-46}}
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 90°'''
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! 10m
 
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
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|PB-46A|| APCBC ||201||199||190||179||168||158
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! Ammo<br>part
|OF-46|| HE || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36 || 36
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
 
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| '''30''' || ''Projectiles'' <br> ''Propellants'' || 27&nbsp;''(+3)'' <br> 27&nbsp;''(+3)'' || 21&nbsp;''(+9)'' <br> 21&nbsp;''(+9)'' || 15&nbsp;''(+15)'' <br> 15&nbsp;''(+15)''
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="11" | Shell details
 
 
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! 4th<br>rack empty
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! 5th<br>rack empty
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! 6th<br>rack empty
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! 7th<br>rack empty
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
''in m:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
 
''in mm:''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
 
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
 
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
 
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! 0%
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| 11&nbsp;''(+19)'' <br> 11&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 5&nbsp;''(+25)'' <br> 5&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 3&nbsp;''(+27)'' <br> 3&nbsp;''(+27)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+29)'' <br> 1&nbsp;''(+29)'' || No
! 50%
 
! 100%
 
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|PB-46A|| APCBC || 870 || 34 || 1.2 || 15 || 2,350 || -1° || 48° || 63° || 71°
 
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|OF-46|| HE || 870 || 33 || 1.3 || 0.1 || 3,580 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
 
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* The {{PAGENAME}} uses two-piece ammunition, composed of projectiles (yellow) and propellant bags (orange). Both have separate racks.
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* Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
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* Right wall empty: 15&nbsp;''(+15)'' shells.
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== Usage in battles ==
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This tank is all about the gun. It defines what being a heavy tank destroyer is. Bad armour, bad mobility, but amazing firepower. Just park the tank in a position where the SU-100Y will be difficult to flank. That way when the vehicles do fire the gun, it can immediately run and hide while the gun reloads. It can not be emphasized enough, this tank can not let itself get shot at. It just doesn't have the armour. But once ready to let one of the 130 mm shells loose, this tank fears few.
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The SU-100Y benefits from a sniper-like playstyle, as well as from hiding between buildings but specially around vegetation. Although the tank is too big to be effectively hidden using camouflage decals (like bushes and so forth) this does decrease the likelihood of the vehicle not being spotted on maps with dense vegetation.
  
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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The tank has a relatively crammed crew compartment with 6 crewmembers that actually amplify the tanks performance, in fact, the gun is so large that in many cases it can stop shrapnel or an explosion from an APHE shell from reaching the crewmembers on the other side of the gun. With this in mind however, it is indeed more susceptible than other vehicles to overpressure.
[[File:Ammoracks_SU-100Y.png|thumbnail|right|x250px|Ammo racks of the SU-100Y.]]
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
 
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br />ammo
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo<br />Part
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |7th<br />rack empty
 
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
 
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| '''30''' || style="text-align:right" | ''Projectiles''<br />''Propellants'' || 28&nbsp;''(+2)''<br />15&nbsp;''(+15)'' || 25&nbsp;''(+5)''<br />13&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 23&nbsp;''(+7)''<br />11&nbsp;''(+19)'' || 21&nbsp;''(+9)''<br />9&nbsp;''(+21)'' || 19&nbsp;''(+11)''<br />5&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 17&nbsp;''(+13)''<br />3&nbsp;''(+27)'' || 7&nbsp;''(+23)''<br />1&nbsp;''(+29)'' || style="text-align:left" | Propellants currently<br />empty after projectiles
 
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21 shells - right wall empty
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The tank has a better gun depression than most Soviet tank destroyers, this means that unlike other Soviet tanks, it can be used rather effectively in hull-down positions, which also amplify its armour due to the increased impact angle coming from most enemy shells.
  
== Usage in battles ==
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The SU-100Y is overall better used as a sniper, setting it up on the flanks of the enemy or in a high up position overseeing a key point of the map, that being a busy intersection, a main road or a capture point, can decide the outcome of the battle if played well. The only thing to consider with this playstyle is that due to the poor mobility of the SU-100Y, it suffers when trying to change position, which makes him very vulnerable to enemy CAS once spotted.  
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This tank is all about the gun. It defines what being a bonafide tank destroyer is. Bad armour, bad mobility, but amazing firepower. Just park the tank in a position where the SU-100Y will be difficult to flank. That way when the vehicles do fire the gun, it can immediately run and hide while the gun reloads. It can not be emphasized enough, this tank can not let itself get shot at. It just doesn't have the armour. But once ready to let one of the 130 mm shells loose, this tank fears few.
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* SU-100Y's B-13 cannon is one of the most powerful guns in the game. Able to penetrate ~200 mm of armour at 500 meters. No tank at its BR can reliably bounce a shell from this tank
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* The SU-100Y's B-13 cannon is one of the more powerful guns at its rank, able to penetrate ~200 mm of armour at 500 m
* Astounding 2.35 kg of TNT explosive filler in the PB-46A APHE shell. Can reliably one-shot any tank in the game, including the Maus
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* Astounding 2.35 kg of TNT explosive filler in the PB-46A SAPCBC shell that can reliably knock out tanks with a single shot
* With 5 degrees of gun depression, SU-100Y has better gun depression than nearly every other Russian tank destroyer
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* With 5 degrees of gun depression, the SU-100Y has better gun depression than nearly every other Soviet tank destroyer
* SU-100Y has a very powerful engine. Accelerating to its top speed and maintaining it even while going uphill is no problem  
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* The SU-100Y has a very powerful engine, accelerating to its top speed and maintaining it even while going uphill is no problem
* Six-man crew gives this tank a decent chance of surviving a penetrating shell
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* Six-man crew spread out across the vehicle gives this tank a decent chance of surviving a penetrating shell
* Huge fear factor, no tank wants to get shot at by the 130 mm
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* Has a research point and Silver Lions boost as a premium vehicle
* Like with every other premium tank, it has a research point and Silver Lions boost
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Skilled players will recognize the threat SU-100Y poses. Expect to be the centre of the enemy's attention  
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* Skilled players will recognize the threat a SU-100Y poses - expect to be the centre of the enemy's attention
 
* This is a huge tank, finding decent cover or a good ambush location is difficult at best
 
* This is a huge tank, finding decent cover or a good ambush location is difficult at best
* Sub-par armour - very gun that this tank can face poses a serious threat
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* Sub-par armour - every gun that this tank can face poses a serious threat
* Extremely vulnerable cannon breech and barrel. Problematic as a single hit to them will result in them being in critical condition  
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* Extremely vulnerable cannon breech and barrel. Problematic as a single hit to them will result in them being in critical condition
* With terrible manoeuvrability, horrifying reverse speed, and massive size, dodging enemy fire is nearly impossible
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* With a terrible manoeuvrability, a mediocre reverse speed and a massive size, dodging enemy fire is nearly impossible
 
* Even a good crew will take more than 20 seconds to reload the gun
 
* Even a good crew will take more than 20 seconds to reload the gun
  
 
== History ==
 
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===Development===
 
===Development===
 
After the failure of the vehicle from testing in the Winter War, the T-100, along with the [[SMK]], fell back into the drawing boards along with other designs that didn't make the cut. But in December 1939, the Red Army requested that Factory No. 185 produce a vehicle based on the failed T-100 chassis. The specifications were for the vehicle to not only operate as a self-propelled gun but in a multitude of roles such as a bridge layer, explosive transporter, and tank recovery.
 
After the failure of the vehicle from testing in the Winter War, the T-100, along with the [[SMK]], fell back into the drawing boards along with other designs that didn't make the cut. But in December 1939, the Red Army requested that Factory No. 185 produce a vehicle based on the failed T-100 chassis. The specifications were for the vehicle to not only operate as a self-propelled gun but in a multitude of roles such as a bridge layer, explosive transporter, and tank recovery.
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The SU-100Y prototype was sent to Kubinka in 1940 once the project stopped, however in the Battle of Moscow in 1941, the SU-100Y and its T-100 self-propelled variants SU-14 and SU-14-1 were pressed into service in the Independent Artillery Division for Special Duties. Combat records for these units are not known, but it left the SU-100Y in intact shape, allowing it to be preserved today in the Kubinka Tank Museum.
 
The SU-100Y prototype was sent to Kubinka in 1940 once the project stopped, however in the Battle of Moscow in 1941, the SU-100Y and its T-100 self-propelled variants SU-14 and SU-14-1 were pressed into service in the Independent Artillery Division for Special Duties. Combat records for these units are not known, but it left the SU-100Y in intact shape, allowing it to be preserved today in the Kubinka Tank Museum.
  
=== In-game description ===
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The SU-100Y heavy SPG was built on a modified chassis of the experimental T-100 tank on which a new cabin with a 130mm B-13 navy gun had been installed. An experimental model was assembled at Factory #185 in March, 1940. Because combat operations on the USSR-Finnish front had ended, testing the new SPG in combat conditions was impossible. After undergoing tests, the vehicle was sent to the NII BTT research institute testing ground in Kubinka. Further work on this vehicle was abandoned.
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The SU-100Y heavy SPG was built on a modified chassis of the experimental T-100 tank on which a new cabin with a 130 mm B-13 navy gun had been installed. An experimental model was assembled at Factory #185 in March, 1940. Because combat operations on the USSR-Finnish front had ended, testing the new SPG in combat conditions was impossible. After undergoing tests, the vehicle was sent to the NII BTT research institute testing ground in Kubinka. Further work on this vehicle was abandoned.
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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[http://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?q=%23su100y '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the SU-100Y series from live.warthunder.com.]
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== See also ==
 
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* [[wt:en/devblog/current/800/|[Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Ki-44-1 and SU-100Y]]
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* [[wt:en/devblog/current/800|[Devblog] Ki-44-1 and SU-100Y]]
  
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This page is about the Soviet tank destroyer SU-100Y. For other uses, see SU-100 (Disambiguation).
SU-100Y
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Description

The SU-100Y was a Soviet prototype developed from the chassis of the T-100 heavy tank prototype in the Winter War. The vehicle was intended to fill a similar purpose as that of the KV-2, using its 130mm naval gun to provide support to infantry against fortified positions. The use of a high velocity 152mm gun was also proposed. The tank never made it past a prototype phase, although the single prototype built was reportedly used in the defence of Moscow in 1941. The sole model in existence is currently preserved at the Kubinka Tank Museum.

It was introduced in Update 1.51 "Cold Steel". The SU-100Y is a very heavy tank destroyer with an extremely powerful gun. The tank features mediocre armour at the front, and can be penetrated with ease by most enemies around its BR at close ranges. Its mobility can be considered average at best, reaching it's top speed relatively quickly for a tank of it's size, although the reverse speed is very poor. Its gun is a 130mm B-13 naval gun which uses SAPCBC as its regular ammo. Boasting a large amount of explosive filler and high penetration even at long ranges, the SU-100Y has no trouble destroying enemy tanks.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull60 / 60 / 60
Turret60 / 60 / 60
Crew6 people
Visibility36 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (rear hatch)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 60 mm (46°) Front plate
60 mm (71°) Front glacis
25 mm (49,70°) Joint plate
60 mm (49°) Lower glacis
60 mm Overall
60 mm (27°) Engine side deck
60 mm (5-14°) 20 mm Front
20 mm (82°) Rear deck
Superstructure 60 mm Front
50 mm (1-27°) Gun mantlet
60 + 60 mm Gun shield
60 mm 60 mm (17°) 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while the tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • The protection is only 60 mm thick at its strongest. Weapon calibres exceeding 20 mm can pierce the armour, turning SPAAG into a real threat, if close enough. It is a good idea to stay with teammates or remain at distance from the main battle.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB36 / 5 km/h
RB and SB33 / 5 km/h
Number of gears4 forward
1 back
Weight64.0 t
Engine power
AB1 622 hp
RB and SB850 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB25.3 hp/t
RB and SB13.3 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 36 5 64 1,207 1,622 18.86 25.34
Realistic 33 5 752 850 11.75 13.28

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB1 455 Sl icon.png
RB1 693 Sl icon.png
SB2 335 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts250 000 Sl icon.png
Aces630 Ge icon.png
Research Aces870 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 110 / 160 / 210 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 160 / 160 / 160 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Mods tank reinforcement ussr.png
Crew Replenishment
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition30 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
25.0 → 19.2 s
Vertical guidance-5° / 15°
Horizontal guidance-10° / 10°
Main article: B-13 (130 mm)
130 mm B-13 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 30 -5°/+15° ±10° N/A 6.16 8.53 10.36 11.46 12.19 24.96 22.08 20.35 19.20
Realistic 4.17 4.90 5.95 6.58 7.00

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
PB-46A SAPCBC 202 199 190 179 168 158
OF-46 HE 36 36 36 36 36 36
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
PB-46A SAPCBC 870 33.5 1.2 19 2.35 48° 63° 71°
OF-46 HE 870 33.4 0 0.1 3.58 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the SU-100Y
Full
ammo
Ammo
part
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
30 Projectiles
Propellants
27 (+3)
27 (+3)
21 (+9)
21 (+9)
15 (+15)
15 (+15)
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
11 (+19)
11 (+19)
(+25)
(+25)
(+27)
(+27)
(+29)
(+29)
No

Notes:

  • The SU-100Y uses two-piece ammunition, composed of projectiles (yellow) and propellant bags (orange). Both have separate racks.
  • Racks disappear after you've fired all shells in the rack.
  • Right wall empty: 15 (+15) shells.

Usage in battles

This tank is all about the gun. It defines what being a heavy tank destroyer is. Bad armour, bad mobility, but amazing firepower. Just park the tank in a position where the SU-100Y will be difficult to flank. That way when the vehicles do fire the gun, it can immediately run and hide while the gun reloads. It can not be emphasized enough, this tank can not let itself get shot at. It just doesn't have the armour. But once ready to let one of the 130 mm shells loose, this tank fears few.

The SU-100Y benefits from a sniper-like playstyle, as well as from hiding between buildings but specially around vegetation. Although the tank is too big to be effectively hidden using camouflage decals (like bushes and so forth) this does decrease the likelihood of the vehicle not being spotted on maps with dense vegetation.

The tank has a relatively crammed crew compartment with 6 crewmembers that actually amplify the tanks performance, in fact, the gun is so large that in many cases it can stop shrapnel or an explosion from an APHE shell from reaching the crewmembers on the other side of the gun. With this in mind however, it is indeed more susceptible than other vehicles to overpressure.

The tank has a better gun depression than most Soviet tank destroyers, this means that unlike other Soviet tanks, it can be used rather effectively in hull-down positions, which also amplify its armour due to the increased impact angle coming from most enemy shells.

The SU-100Y is overall better used as a sniper, setting it up on the flanks of the enemy or in a high up position overseeing a key point of the map, that being a busy intersection, a main road or a capture point, can decide the outcome of the battle if played well. The only thing to consider with this playstyle is that due to the poor mobility of the SU-100Y, it suffers when trying to change position, which makes him very vulnerable to enemy CAS once spotted.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • The SU-100Y's B-13 cannon is one of the more powerful guns at its rank, able to penetrate ~200 mm of armour at 500 m
  • Astounding 2.35 kg of TNT explosive filler in the PB-46A SAPCBC shell that can reliably knock out tanks with a single shot
  • With 5 degrees of gun depression, the SU-100Y has better gun depression than nearly every other Soviet tank destroyer
  • The SU-100Y has a very powerful engine, accelerating to its top speed and maintaining it even while going uphill is no problem
  • Six-man crew spread out across the vehicle gives this tank a decent chance of surviving a penetrating shell
  • Has a research point and Silver Lions boost as a premium vehicle

Cons:

  • Skilled players will recognize the threat a SU-100Y poses - expect to be the centre of the enemy's attention
  • This is a huge tank, finding decent cover or a good ambush location is difficult at best
  • Sub-par armour - every gun that this tank can face poses a serious threat
  • Extremely vulnerable cannon breech and barrel. Problematic as a single hit to them will result in them being in critical condition
  • With a terrible manoeuvrability, a mediocre reverse speed and a massive size, dodging enemy fire is nearly impossible
  • Even a good crew will take more than 20 seconds to reload the gun

History

Development

After the failure of the vehicle from testing in the Winter War, the T-100, along with the SMK, fell back into the drawing boards along with other designs that didn't make the cut. But in December 1939, the Red Army requested that Factory No. 185 produce a vehicle based on the failed T-100 chassis. The specifications were for the vehicle to not only operate as a self-propelled gun but in a multitude of roles such as a bridge layer, explosive transporter, and tank recovery.

Development started with the proposal to mount the 152 mm cannon onto the T-100 in order to be able to combat fortifications like the KV-2 with the same armament. The factory manager instead proposed the mounting of a 100 or 130 mm naval gun onto the vehicle instead, and this proposal was accepted on January 8, 1940. The designs, designated T-100-X, was sent to the Izhorskyi factory. At that moment, the T-100-X had a box-shaped fighting compartment with a 130 mm B-13 naval gun. The vehicle had a torsion-bar suspension to stay mobile. Over time, the prototype was redesigned with a modified fighting compartment and such and was resubmitted to the factory for production on February 24, 1940, and redesignated as the SU-100Y. The produced design was tested in March, but the design was dropped from production due to the low demand and the ending of the Winter War. This leaves the SU-100Y with only one prototype ever built. Other methods to either modernize the T-100 or into other variants were made in complementary to the SU-100Y, such as mounting the 152 mm M-10 gun and designating it the T-100-Z. This idea never went past the drawing boards as the success of the KV-1 and KV-2s proved the designs unnecessary. Another idea was to use the T-100 as coastal defence weapon with the 130 mm gun on a turret than a casemate structure, along with three machine guns, like the T-100-Z, this didn't pass the drawing boards.

Service

The SU-100Y prototype was sent to Kubinka in 1940 once the project stopped, however in the Battle of Moscow in 1941, the SU-100Y and its T-100 self-propelled variants SU-14 and SU-14-1 were pressed into service in the Independent Artillery Division for Special Duties. Combat records for these units are not known, but it left the SU-100Y in intact shape, allowing it to be preserved today in the Kubinka Tank Museum.


Archive of the in-game description

The SU-100Y heavy SPG was built on a modified chassis of the experimental T-100 tank on which a new cabin with a 130 mm B-13 navy gun had been installed. An experimental model was assembled at Factory #185 in March, 1940. Because combat operations on the USSR-Finnish front had ended, testing the new SPG in combat conditions was impossible. After undergoing tests, the vehicle was sent to the NII BTT research institute testing ground in Kubinka. Further work on this vehicle was abandoned.


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