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Revision as of 21:44, 9 December 2022
This page is about the Soviet strike aircraft Su-17M4. For other versions, see Su-17/22 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The Su-17M4 is a rank VII Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.7 (AB), 11.3 (RB), and 11.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone".
The Su-17M4 is a later model of the swing-wing "Fitter" attacker family. Compared to the previous Su-17M2, it uses a revised airframe shared by the Su-22M3 with a drooping forward fuselage and a noticeable hump behind the cockpit. The flight performance remains practically unchanged, still enjoying good speed and the versatility afforded by its swing wings. In-game, its most notable improvements over other models are the ability to use all-aspect R-60M infrared missiles for air combat and a large supply of 268 countermeasures for self defense. It also enjoys the widest suite of ground attack weapons, featuring the S-25 heavy rocket seen on the Su-22M3 and the Kh-29T TV-guided missile seen on the MiG-27M/K. Although the Su-17M4 is more primitive than the MiG-27K and cannot fulfill the same long-range CAS role afforded by the Flogger's advanced targeting systems, this Sukhoi is still a robust strike platform with plenty of hardpoints and a large arsenal.
General info
Flight performance
Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 11,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 2,028 | 2,011 | 19500 | 27.3 | 27.5 | 167.9 | 161.2 | 850 |
Upgraded | 2,062 | 2,052 | 26.7 | 27.0 | 212.1 | 190.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
X | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | ✓ |
Limits | Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | |||
Min sweep | 1,050 | 630 | N/A | 476 | 473 | ~10 | ~3 |
Max sweep | 1,417 | N/A | N/A | N/A | ~11 | ~4 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
---|---|---|---|
Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 740 | < 650 | < 650 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | ||||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | ||||
Saturn AL-21F-3 | 1 | 11,245 kg | 391 - 436 kg/m2 | ||||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Gross Weight | |||||
Weight (each) | Type | 12m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 40m fuel | ||
1,800 kg | Afterburning axial-flow turbojet | 12,385 kg | 13,103 kg | 14,031 kg | 15,045 kg | 19,367 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (WEP) | ||||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 12m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | 40m fuel | MGW |
Stationary | 6,400 kgf | 9,039 kgf | 0.73 | 0.69 | 0.64 | 0.60 | 0.47 |
Optimal | 7,232 kgf (1,200 km/h) |
13,188 kgf (1,417 km/h) |
1.06 | 1.01 | 0.94 | 0.88 | 0.68 |
Survivability and armour
Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Ballistic Computer | |||
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CCIP (Guns) | CCIP (Rockets) | CCIP (Bombs) | CCRP (Bombs) |
Offensive armament
The Su-17M4 is armed with:
- A choice between two presets:
- 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)
- 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons + 12 x large calibre countermeasures + 256 x countermeasures
Suspended armament
The Su-17M4 can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:
- Without load
- 2 x R-60M missiles
- 6 x R-60M missiles
- 28 x S-3K rockets
- 128 x S-5K rockets
- 6 x S-24B rockets
- 80 x S-8KO rockets
- 20 x S-13OF rockets
- 2 x S-25O rockets
- 20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
- 10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
- 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
- 4 x ZB-500 incendiary bombs
- 2 x S-25L missiles
- 4 x Kh-25ML missiles
- 2 x Kh-29L missiles
- 2 x Kh-29T missiles
- 4 x 23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg = 1,000 total)
Custom loadout options
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | ||
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23 mm GSh-23L cannons (250 rpg) | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |||||
100 kg OFAB-100 bombs | 5 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 5 | |||
250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | |||
500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | |||
ZB-500 incendiary bombs | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |||||
S-3K rockets | 7 | 7 | 7 | 7 | |||||
S-5K rockets | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | |||||
S-8KO rockets | 20 | 20 | 20 | 20 | |||||
S-13OF rockets | 5 | 5 | 5 | 5 | |||||
S-24B rockets | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |||
S-25O rockets | 1 | 1 | |||||||
Kh-25ML missiles | 1* | 1* | 1* | 1* | |||||
Kh-29L missiles | 1* | 1* | |||||||
Kh-29T missiles | 1* | 1* | |||||||
R-60M missiles | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | |||||
S-25L missiles | 1* | 1* | |||||||
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 4,160 kg Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg | |||||||||
* Kh-29T missiles cannot be mixed with the marked options |
Usage in battles
In air battles, the Su-17M4 will suffer against most targets it comes across as the plane itself is an attacker. You are not manoeuvrable and engaging in dogfights is strongly discouraged. Due to the presence of radar missiles, the best way to play the plane in RB is to be a support fighter, trying to stay away from the action before coming in either from the side or on top of a furball/enemy while everyone is distracted, using your R-60Ms to your advantage. Your RWR will be useful and if you do receive a radar lock, it is best to notch and/or try to run away from the enemy, hoping to deter him from attacking you. Head-on attacks are usually not advised as while the R-60Ms are all aspect, they can be easily flared, and it's better to keep them for a more useful situation, unless it's a last ditch effort. Bombing bases can be done but flying directly straight in to the map is risky. On bigger maps such as EC matches, it may be a good idea to take some ground ordnance, and hit ground targets to bleed the enemy tickets, as being a pure "fighter" will usually end in a bad situation.
Radars
SRD-5 - Rangefinding radar | |||
---|---|---|---|
Maximum Tracking Range |
Minimum Tracking Range |
Azimuth Tracking Angle |
Elevation Tracking Angle |
3,000 m | 300 m | ±9° | ±9° |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good overall turn rate and energy retention, can hold 800-1,000 km/h in turns with wings fully un-swept and afterburner deployed
- Strong elevator authority, can pull out of low-skimming attack runs with no problem
- Very large amount of countermeasures: 256 x small and 12 x large countermeasures is more than enough to keep missiles off of you
- NR-30 cannons are very powerful, can also mount up to 4 x GSh-23L gunpods for extra burst mass
- Excellent loadout options for both AAMs and ground ordnance alike
- Can act as a very strong supporting fighter with 6 x R-60M AAMs and sweep wing
Cons:
- Roll rate and overall manoeuvrability are poor at speeds below 500 km/h
- With wings fully swept-forward, the maximum speed is limited to approximately Mach 0.8 at sea level otherwise the wings will rip
- No semi-automatic option for managing wing-sweep, only full-manual or automatic wing-sweep settings
- Gigantic target when wings are unswept
- Payload is somewhat low, at only 4,000 kg of bombs
- Cannot carry GBUs or R-13 AAMs like the MiG-27s
History
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, also if applicable).
Media
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- Videos
See also
External links
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- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
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