Su-17M2

Su-17M2

Su-7BKL

Su-17M4

Su-17M2

Su-7BKL

Su-17M4

USSR

VII Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
11.3	10.7	10.7

Class:

Strike aircraft

Research:260 000

Purchase:710 000

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Description

The Su-17M2 is a rank VII Soviet strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.3 (AB) and 10.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Ixwa Strike".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 11 000 m2 232 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude19 500 m

EngineSaturn AL-21F-3

Type

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight19 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 11,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	2,219	2,219	19500	27.3	27.4	164.8	164.8	850
Upgraded	___	___		__._	__._	__._	__._

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
✓	✓	✓	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
0	630	___	___	___	~__	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 740	< 650	< 650	N/A

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear630 km/h

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Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 213 → 4 707

RB8 476 → 12 417

SB9 723 → 14 244

Total cost of modifications234 000

372 000

Talisman cost2 800

Crew training200 000

Experts710 000

Aces2 800

Research Aces1 080 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

80 / 310 / 600 %

232 / 232 / 232 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Compressor Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 New boosters Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 Wings repair Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 Engine Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550	Fuselage repair Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 Airframe Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 G-suit Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 Cover Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550	NR_30_belt_pack Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 FAB-250 Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 UB-32 Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 ZB-500 Research: 7 600 Cost: 12 000 350 FAB-500 Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 B-8M1 Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 B-8M1 Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 Kh-23M Research: 10 000 Cost: 16 000 450 NR_30_new_gun Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 Gun pod SPPU-22-01 Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 S-24 Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 Kh-25 Research: 9 400 Cost: 15 000 430 EFS Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550 ns23_belt_pack Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550 R-60 Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550 40px Kh-29L Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 550

Armaments

Offensive armament

The Su-17M2 is armed with:

• 2 x 30 mm NR-30 cannons, wing-mounted (80 rpg = 160 total)

Suspended armament

The Su-17M2 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

• Without load
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons (250 rpg = 500 total)
• 20 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (2,000 kg total)
• 10 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,500 kg total)
• 8 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (4,000 kg total)
• 128 x S-5K rockets
• 80 x S-8KO rockets
• 28 x S-3K rockets
• 6 x S-24 rockets
• 2 x Kh-23M missiles
• 2 x Kh-25 missiles
• 1 x Kh-29L missile
• 4 x R-60 missiles
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 18 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (1,800 kg total)
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 6 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (3,000 kg total)
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 64 x S-5K rockets
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 40 x S-8KO rockets
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 28 x S-3K rockets
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 4 x S-24 rockets
• 2 x R-60 missiles + 2 x Kh-23M missiles
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 2 x Kh-25 missiles
• 4 x R-60 missiles + 1 x Kh-29L missile
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 18 x 100 kg OFAB-100 bombs (1,800 kg total)
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 8 x 250 kg OFAB-250sv bombs (2,000 kg total)
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 6 x 500 kg FAB-500M-62 bombs (3,000 kg total)
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 64 x S-5K rockets
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 40 x S-8KO rockets
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 28 x S-3K rockets
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 4 x S-24 rockets
• 1 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannon + 2 x Kh-23M missiles
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 2 x Kh-25 missiles
• 2 x 23 mm GSh-23-2 cannons + 1 x Kh-29L missile

Usage in battles

The Su-17 M-2 can fulfill three roles:

Figther

You can use the Su-17M2 as a figther, as it is fairly manoeuvrable and can be equipped with 4 x R-60 misiles. The only planes it can’t outturn are the Mirage III and the J-35. Try to sideclimb in a  20-25° angle and try to flank the enemy. Come from behind in a support role, try to Boom and Zoom and find enemies low on energy. Do not become slow, since you do not have flares and your best defence against missiles is to maintain a high speed.

Bomber

The Su-17 can carry up to 8 x 500kg bombs, which is enough for 2 big bases or 4 small bases. After your bombing run, you can quickly return to base and rearm thanks to its great flight performance. Using it as a bomber is a fairly safe way to gain points, survive a long time and help your team by bleeding enemy tickets.

Multirole

The hudge amount of secondary weapons the Su-17 M-2 can carry lets you play as a multirole aircraft. As example you can take 6 x 500 kg bombs and 4 R-60 missiles. This way, you can start by bombing up to 3 Bases and then play it as a fighter.

Enemies worth noting

•  The Mirage IIIC and the J35D: These planes are also serious foes since they out turn everything at their BR (keep in mind that the Draken is more manoeuvrable than the Mirage) so dogfighting them is a death sentence. They're also able to wield deadly missiles, the Draken wields the Swedish license built AIM-9P3s known as RB24Js and the Mirage has access to the extremely effective Matra R550 Magic 1 that pulls 30 Gs and has a higher top speed than other IR guided missiles. The best thing to do against these planes is to do a zoom climb to bleed their speed since they have a lower thrust to weight ratio than you and then do oblique turns since they both bleed a ton of speed when turning and have a lower acceleration than you do. Try to not let them shoot a missile at you since you don’t have Flares and will have to try to outturn it. If that happens tur off the afterburner and pull hard.

Phantoms, particularly F-4E and EJ models: These Planes are the most common enemys and targets you should not prioritize first, since you can easily outturn them. In many cases you can evade their Aim-9Js by turning in one direction first, than rolling and switching direction. If you try to turnfigth them, pull out your Airbreaks to go below 1000 kph, fold out the wings and you wont have any Problems. If they try to get out of the turnfigth and outaccelerate you just shoot a R-60 at them.

Pros and cons

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See also

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