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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} Chinese fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]].
  
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
  
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 6,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
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| 718 || 692 ||13 000|| 19.1 || 19.4 || 22.6 || 17.9 || 421
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| 718 || 692 || 19.1 || 19.4 || 22.6 || 17.9
 
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==== Details ====
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 70 mm Bulletproof glass at the front of the cockpit.
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* 70 mm bulletproof glass at the front of the cockpit.
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* 6 mm steel plated headrest and 13 mm steel plated pilot's seat.
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* 6 mm steel headrest
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* 13 mm steel pilot's seat.
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
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{{main|Ho-5 (20 mm)|Ho-103 (12.7 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with:
  
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* 2 x 20 mm Ho-5 army cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
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* 2 x 20 mm Ho-5 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
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* 2 x 12.7 mm Ho-103 army machine guns, nose-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)
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* 2 x 12.7 mm Ho-103 machine guns, nose-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)
  
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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* Without load
 
* Without load
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* 2 x 50 kg Army Type 94 GPHE bombs (100 kg total)
 
* 2 x 250 kg Army Type 92 GPHE bombs (500 kg total)
 
* 2 x 250 kg Army Type 92 GPHE bombs (500 kg total)
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* 2 x 50 kg Army Type 94 GPHE bombs (100 kg total)
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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'''RB:'''
  
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The strong rate of climb of this fighter allows for a significant altitude advantage to be made in the beginning of battles. As this fighter is usually paired with the Soviets against the Japanese, make sure to utilise this advantage as your Soviet teammates and many of the Japanese fighters that you will encounter will be unable to climb as high as you. However, if German aircraft are present in the opposing team be cautious of climbing too high as they will be able to easily gain an altitude advantage over you.
  
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When encountering Japanese Zeroes (i.e. the A6M5) do not attempt to "turn-fight" them. Instead, maintain your energy with a typical boom and zoom technique as they will be unable to match your altitudes. The [[N1K (Family)|N1K2 series]] and the [[Bf 109 (Family)|Bf 109 series]] have greater rates of climb, but handle slightly worse at lower speeds, hence it is suggested that you should attempt to burn both your opponent's and your own energy using climbing corkscrew manoeuvres to bring both of you into your optimal fighting altitude (~4,000 m) at your best operating speed (< 400 km/h). Here you are more manoeuvrable and have a better chance at taking out these fast aircraft.
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The strong rate of climb of this fighter allows for a significant altitude advantage to be made in the beginning of battles. As this fighter is usually paired with the soviets against the Japanese, make sure to utilise this advantage as your soviet teammates and many of the Japanese fighters that you will encounter will be unable to climb as high as you. However, if German aircraft are present in the opposing team be cautious of climbing too high as they will be able to easily gain an altitude advantage over you.  
 
  
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When encountering Japanese zeroes (i.e. the A7M2) do not attempt to "turn-fight" them. Instead, maintain your energy with a typical boom and zoom technique as they will be unable to match your altitudes. The N1K2 series and the bf-109 series have greater rates of climb, but handle slightly worse at lower speeds, hence it is suggested that you should attempt to burn both your opponent's and your own energy using climbing corkscrew manoeuvres to bring both of you into your optimal fighting altitude (~4000m) at your best operating speed (< 400 km / h). Here you are more manoeuvrable and have a better chance at taking out these fast aircraft.
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Due to your fairly weak weaponry, it is not advised to chase after heavily armoured bombers and instead focus on fighting enemy fighters. A potential approach is to support allied aircraft by maintaining a high altitude above them, preventing enemy aircraft from diving on top of your allies as you can control the airspace directly above them.
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Due to your fairly weak weaponry, it is not advised to chase after heavily armoured bombers and instead focus on fighting enemy fighters. A potential approach is to support allied aircraft by maintaining a high altitude above them, denying enemy aircraft from diving on top of your allies as you can control the airspace directly above them.  
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
  
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* Strong rate of climb compared to other fighters in such as the Ki-61 series and the A7M2.
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'''Pros:'''
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* Effective top speed and energy retention allowing for the effective use of "boom and zoom" tactics.
 
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* Great acceleration allowing speed to be regained quickly after duels.
 
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* Reasonable performance at high altitude.
 
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* Maintains a high degree of manoeuvrability at lower speeds.
 
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* Jack of all trades: Nimble yet quick while having a good degree of energy retention, allows this fighter to hold its own against any fighter that it may encounter.
 
  
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* Strong rate of climb compared to other fighters such as the [[Ki-61 (Family)|Ki-61 series]] and the [[A7M2]]
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* Effective top speed and energy retention allowing for the effective use of "boom and zoom" tactics
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* Great acceleration allowing speed to be regained quickly after duels
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* Reasonable performance at high altitude
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* Maintains a high degree of manoeuvrability at lower speeds
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* Jack of all trades: nimble yet quick while having a good degree of energy retention, allows this fighter to hold its own against any fighter that it may encounter
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Not as manoeuvrable as the Japanese fighters that you will be facing at this tier, and struggles to contest the high altitudes of the bf-109 series due to their superior rates of climb.
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* Not as manoeuvrable as the Japanese fighters that you will be facing at this tier, and struggles to contest the high altitudes of the Bf 109 series due to their superior rates of climb
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* The "good at all, master of none" character of this aircraft makes it difficult to play as pilots will need to adapt their play-style to counter specific aircraft that they are facing, subsequently requiring a fair degree of knowledge over the strengths and weaknesses of each aircraft that they will encounter.
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* The "jack of all trades, master of none" character of this aircraft makes it difficult to play as pilots will need to adapt their play-style to counter specific aircraft that they are facing, subsequently requiring a fair degree of knowledge over the strengths and weaknesses of each aircraft that they will encounter
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* The weapons feel fairly lackluster, with the 20 mm cannons having a reasonably low amount of ammunition (at least compared to the 12.7 mm machine guns).
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* The weapons feel fairly lacklustre, with the 20 mm cannons having a reasonably low amount of ammunition (at least compared to the 12.7 mm machine guns)
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* Elevator locks up at high speeds preventing optimal usage of its great energy retention.
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* Elevator locks up at high speeds preventing optimal usage of its great energy retention
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* A reasonably slow roll-rate causing this fighter to be vulnerable against Japanese fighters which are the typical opponents.
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* A reasonably slow roll-rate causing this fighter to be vulnerable against Japanese fighters which are the typical opponents
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* Fairly susceptible to damage with fires being particularly devastating to this light aircraft.
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* Fairly susceptible to damage with fires being particularly devastating to this light aircraft
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== History ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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Revision as of 10:04, 7 June 2020

Rank VI USA | Premium | Golden Eagles
A-10A Thunderbolt (Early)
␗Ki-84 ko
ki_84_ko_china.png
␗Ki-84 ko
China flag.png China
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.7 5.3 5.0
Class:
PREMIUM
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This page is about the premium Chinese fighter Ki-84 ko (China). For the Japanese version, see Ki-84 ko. For other versions, see Ki-84 (Family).

Description

GarageImage Ki-84 ko (China).jpg


The ␗Ki-84 ko Hayate is a premium rank IV Chinese fighter with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB), 5.3 (RB), and 5.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.93 "Shark Attack".

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 6,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock ___ ___ 13000 __._ __._ __._ __._ 421
Upgraded 718 692 19.1 19.4 22.6 17.9

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
837 270 500 380 280 ~13 ~9
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 400 < 480 < 430 > 324
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
2,000 m 1,875 hp 2,100 hp
Setting 2
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
5,300 m 1,675 hp 1,876 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 70 mm bulletproof glass at the front of the cockpit.
  • 6 mm steel headrest
  • 13 mm steel pilot's seat.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: Ho-5 (20 mm), Ho-103 (12.7 mm)

The Ki-84 ko (China) is armed with:

  • 2 x 20 mm Ho-5 cannons, wing-mounted (150 rpg = 300 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm Ho-103 machine guns, nose-mounted (350 rpg = 700 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: Army Type 94 GPHE (50 kg), Army Type 92 GPHE (250 kg)

The Ki-84 ko (China) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 2 x 50 kg Army Type 94 GPHE bombs (100 kg total)
  • 2 x 250 kg Army Type 92 GPHE bombs (500 kg total)

Usage in battles

RB:

The strong rate of climb of this fighter allows for a significant altitude advantage to be made in the beginning of battles. As this fighter is usually paired with the Soviets against the Japanese, make sure to utilise this advantage as your Soviet teammates and many of the Japanese fighters that you will encounter will be unable to climb as high as you. However, if German aircraft are present in the opposing team be cautious of climbing too high as they will be able to easily gain an altitude advantage over you.

When encountering Japanese Zeroes (i.e. the A6M5) do not attempt to "turn-fight" them. Instead, maintain your energy with a typical boom and zoom technique as they will be unable to match your altitudes. The N1K2 series and the Bf 109 series have greater rates of climb, but handle slightly worse at lower speeds, hence it is suggested that you should attempt to burn both your opponent's and your own energy using climbing corkscrew manoeuvres to bring both of you into your optimal fighting altitude (~4,000 m) at your best operating speed (< 400 km/h). Here you are more manoeuvrable and have a better chance at taking out these fast aircraft.

Due to your fairly weak weaponry, it is not advised to chase after heavily armoured bombers and instead focus on fighting enemy fighters. A potential approach is to support allied aircraft by maintaining a high altitude above them, preventing enemy aircraft from diving on top of your allies as you can control the airspace directly above them.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Separate Controllable
2 gears 		Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 12 mm 9 in (mod23)
II Compressor Airframe New 12 mm MGs 12 in (mod27)
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine injection Cover New 20 mm cannons
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Strong rate of climb compared to other fighters such as the Ki-61 series and the A7M2
  • Effective top speed and energy retention allowing for the effective use of "boom and zoom" tactics
  • Great acceleration allowing speed to be regained quickly after duels
  • Reasonable performance at high altitude
  • Maintains a high degree of manoeuvrability at lower speeds
  • Jack of all trades: nimble yet quick while having a good degree of energy retention, allows this fighter to hold its own against any fighter that it may encounter

Cons:

  • Not as manoeuvrable as the Japanese fighters that you will be facing at this tier, and struggles to contest the high altitudes of the Bf 109 series due to their superior rates of climb
  • The "jack of all trades, master of none" character of this aircraft makes it difficult to play as pilots will need to adapt their play-style to counter specific aircraft that they are facing, subsequently requiring a fair degree of knowledge over the strengths and weaknesses of each aircraft that they will encounter
  • The weapons feel fairly lacklustre, with the 20 mm cannons having a reasonably low amount of ammunition (at least compared to the 12.7 mm machine guns)
  • Elevator locks up at high speeds preventing optimal usage of its great energy retention
  • A reasonably slow roll-rate causing this fighter to be vulnerable against Japanese fighters which are the typical opponents
  • Fairly susceptible to damage with fires being particularly devastating to this light aircraft

History

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Media

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See also

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  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
  • other literature.


Nakajima Aircraft Company (中島飛行機株式会社 )
Fighters  Ki-27 otsu · Ki-27 otsu Tachiarai
  Ki-43-I · Ki-43-II · Ki-43-III otsu
  Ki-44-I · Ki-44-I 34 · Ki-44-II otsu · Ki-44-II hei
  Ki-84 ko · Ki-84 otsu · Ki-84 hei
  Ki-87
Hydroplanes  A6M2-N*
Interceptors  J1N1 · J5N1
Bombers  B5N2
  B6N1 Model 11 · B6N2 Model 12 · B6N2a Model 12Ko
  G5N1 · G8N1
  Ki-49-I · Ki-49-IIa · Ki-49-IIb · Ki-49-IIb/L
Recon  E8N2
Jet Fighters  Kikka
Captured  ␗Ki-27 otsu · ▃Ki-43-II · ␗Ki-43-III ko · ␗Ki-44-II hei · ␗Ki-84 ko
  *Refit of the Mitsubishi A6M2 mod. 11
See also  Fuji Heavy Industries (1957-2017)

China fighters
British  ␗Gladiator Mk I
French  D.510C
Japanese  ␗A6M2 · ␗Ki-27 otsu · ␗Ki-43-III ko · ␗Ki-44-II hei · ␗Ki-61-I otsu · ␗Ki-84 ko
American  CW-21 · Hawk III · P-66 · ␗P-40E-1 · H-81A-2 · ␗P-43A-1
  ␗P-47D-23-RA · ␗P-47D-30 · ␗F-47N-25-RE · ␗P-51C-11-NT · ␗P-51D-20 · ␗P-51K
Soviet  ␗I-15bis · ␗I-153 M-62 · ␗I-16 Chung 28 · ␗I-16 type 5 · ␗I-16 type 10 · ␗I-16 type 17 · ␗La-11 · ␗La-9

China premium aircraft
Fighters  ␗A6M2 · D.510C · ␗F-47N-25-RE · H-81A-2 · Hawk III · ␗Ki-45 hei/tei · ␗Ki-84 ko · ␗P-51C-11-NT
Jet fighters  Shenyang F-5 · J-7D
Strike aircraft  A-5C · ␗F-84G-31-RE

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