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− | Like the Mk.10, the Challenger has a very strong turret, with composite armor protecting the entire front and part of the sides. Frontally, the turret can protect against, at maximum, 470 mm of kinetic (APFSDS, APDS, AP, etc.) and 750 mm of chemical (HEAT, ATGM, etc.) penetrators. This makes the turret theoretically invulnerable to all ammo in the game, excluding the HOT missile on the [[RakJPz 2 (HOT)|Raketenjagdpanzer 2 HOT]]. In practice, however, there is a weak spot on the lower leading edge of the turret front, where the backing plate of the composite inside the turret flattens to a 90° angle | + | Like the Chieftain Mk.10, the Challenger has a very strong turret, with composite armor protecting the entire front and part of the sides. Frontally, the turret can protect against, at maximum, 470 mm of kinetic (APFSDS, APDS, AP, etc.) and 750 mm of chemical (HEAT, ATGM, etc.) penetrators. This makes the turret theoretically invulnerable to all ammo in the game, excluding the HOT missile on the [[RakJPz 2 (HOT)|Raketenjagdpanzer 2 HOT]]. In practice, however, there is a weak spot on the lower leading edge of the turret front, where the backing plate of the composite inside the turret flattens to a 90° angle. This reduces the effective thickness of the lower turret cheeks by abproximately 100 mm when the tank is level (making it vulnerable to most long-rod APFSDS). |
− | The hull is | + | The Challenger hull is significantly weaker, with only 220 mm of RHAe (~300 mm for projectiles without the long-rod slope modifier) for kinetic and 600 mm RHAe for chemical penetrators on the upper frontal plate. An exception is the area directly above the driver's hatch, which is not covered by composite armor and is vulnerable to essentially any anti-tank ammunition. The lower frontal plate is also (mostly) lacking composite and is comprised of a single 70 mm RHA plate at a shallow angle, providing ~80-90 mm of effective thickness. Shots to the LFP will at best only incapacitate the driver, or more likely catastrophically detonate the hull ammunition. British tankers should be quite used to this weakspot by this point, as the weak LFP is present on the entire Chieftain line. However, the upper quarter of the LFP shares some of the UFP's composite protection due to its design. This means that the upper LFP has slightly more protection that the lower LFP. |
'''Armour type:''' | '''Armour type:''' | ||
− | * Composite armour ( | + | |
− | * Rolled homogeneous armour | + | * Composite armour (hull UFP, turret front and sides) |
− | * Cast homogeneous armour ( | + | * Rolled homogeneous armour (hull) |
− | * Aluminium ( | + | * Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet) |
+ | * Aluminium (side skirts) | ||
+ | |||
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'''Notes:''' | '''Notes:''' | ||
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* Suspension wheels, torsion bars, and tracks are 20 mm thick. | * Suspension wheels, torsion bars, and tracks are 20 mm thick. | ||
* Turret ring is 60 mm thick. | * Turret ring is 60 mm thick. | ||
* 20-25 mm RHA plates surround the fuel tanks on the hull sides. | * 20-25 mm RHA plates surround the fuel tanks on the hull sides. | ||
− | * Hull | + | * Hull composite armour configuration is 50 mm RHA + 200 mm NERA elements + 80 mm RHA. |
* Front turret compsoite armour configuration is 50 mm RHA + 600 mm NERA elements + 110 mm RHA. | * Front turret compsoite armour configuration is 50 mm RHA + 600 mm NERA elements + 110 mm RHA. | ||
* Turret side compsoite armour configuration is 25 mm RHA + 300 mm NERA elements + 80 mm RHA. | * Turret side compsoite armour configuration is 25 mm RHA + 300 mm NERA elements + 80 mm RHA. | ||
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=== Mobility === | === Mobility === | ||
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− | The Challenger's speed sets it apart from the previous Chieftain tanks, as it is capable of reaching 56 km/h on roads and 46 km/h | + | The Challenger's speed sets it apart from the previous Chieftain tanks, as it is capable of reaching 56 km/h on roads and 46 km/h off-road. Reverse speed is also a noticeable improvement from the Chieftain line. Despite this, the 62 ton mass of this vehicle makes it the slowest of its high-tier contemporaries (e.g. Abrams, Leopard, and Type 90). |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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− | !colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic | + | ! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic |
|- | |- | ||
! Weight (tons) | ! Weight (tons) | ||
− | !colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons) | + | ! colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons) |
− | !colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h) | + | ! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h) |
|- | |- | ||
− | |rowspan="2" | 62.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 62 (AB) | + | | rowspan="2" | 62.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 62 (AB) |
|- | |- | ||
|56 (RB/SB) | |56 (RB/SB) | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | !colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower) | + | ! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower) |
|- | |- | ||
− | !colspan="1" | Mode | + | ! colspan="1" | Mode |
!Stock | !Stock | ||
!Upgraded | !Upgraded | ||
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|1,200 | |1,200 | ||
|- | |- | ||
− | !colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | + | ! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) |
|- | |- | ||
− | !colspan="1" | Mode | + | ! colspan="1" | Mode |
!Stock | !Stock | ||
!Upgraded | !Upgraded | ||
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo | ! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo | ||
− | ! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo<br/>Part | + | ! class="wikitable unsortable" |Ammo<br />Part |
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty | ! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty | ||
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty | ! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty | ||
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When encountering common enemies: | When encountering common enemies: | ||
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* [[T-64B]]: L23A1 APFSDS can theoretically penetrate the UFP, but it is difficult. The drivers port weakspot is the recommended target from the front. If not possible, aim for the breech/cannon barrel to eliminate the threat of return fire | * [[T-64B]]: L23A1 APFSDS can theoretically penetrate the UFP, but it is difficult. The drivers port weakspot is the recommended target from the front. If not possible, aim for the breech/cannon barrel to eliminate the threat of return fire | ||
* [[T-64A (1971)]]: APFSDS will go right through the front of this tank, but the Challenger can still be penetrated by the top APFSDS (3BM12) in the weak spot on the turret's leading edge. | * [[T-64A (1971)]]: APFSDS will go right through the front of this tank, but the Challenger can still be penetrated by the top APFSDS (3BM12) in the weak spot on the turret's leading edge. | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
+ | |||
*Good composite armour for both kinetic and chemical protection for both hull and turret | *Good composite armour for both kinetic and chemical protection for both hull and turret | ||
*Very accurate main gun with good gun stabilizers and decent stock APDS shell | *Very accurate main gun with good gun stabilizers and decent stock APDS shell | ||
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*Good APFSDS shells | *Good APFSDS shells | ||
*Good forward and reverse speed | *Good forward and reverse speed | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
+ | |||
*Large target | *Large target | ||
*Driver's optics weakspot on the upper frontal plate | *Driver's optics weakspot on the upper frontal plate | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' |
Revision as of 15:55, 13 May 2019
Contents
This page is about the British medium tank Challenger Mk.2. For other uses, see Challenger (Disambiguation). |
Description
The Tank, Combat, 120-mm Gun, Challenger Mk.2, or just Challenger Mk.2, is a Rank VII British medium tank
with a battle rating of 10.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm".
General info
Survivability and armour
Like the Chieftain Mk.10, the Challenger has a very strong turret, with composite armor protecting the entire front and part of the sides. Frontally, the turret can protect against, at maximum, 470 mm of kinetic (APFSDS, APDS, AP, etc.) and 750 mm of chemical (HEAT, ATGM, etc.) penetrators. This makes the turret theoretically invulnerable to all ammo in the game, excluding the HOT missile on the Raketenjagdpanzer 2 HOT. In practice, however, there is a weak spot on the lower leading edge of the turret front, where the backing plate of the composite inside the turret flattens to a 90° angle. This reduces the effective thickness of the lower turret cheeks by abproximately 100 mm when the tank is level (making it vulnerable to most long-rod APFSDS).
The Challenger hull is significantly weaker, with only 220 mm of RHAe (~300 mm for projectiles without the long-rod slope modifier) for kinetic and 600 mm RHAe for chemical penetrators on the upper frontal plate. An exception is the area directly above the driver's hatch, which is not covered by composite armor and is vulnerable to essentially any anti-tank ammunition. The lower frontal plate is also (mostly) lacking composite and is comprised of a single 70 mm RHA plate at a shallow angle, providing ~80-90 mm of effective thickness. Shots to the LFP will at best only incapacitate the driver, or more likely catastrophically detonate the hull ammunition. British tankers should be quite used to this weakspot by this point, as the weak LFP is present on the entire Chieftain line. However, the upper quarter of the LFP shares some of the UFP's composite protection due to its design. This means that the upper LFP has slightly more protection that the lower LFP.
Armour type:
- Composite armour (hull UFP, turret front and sides)
- Rolled homogeneous armour (hull)
- Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)
- Aluminium (side skirts)
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
---|---|---|---|---|
Hull | 38-50* mm (60-81°) Front glacis 70 mm (30°) Lower glacis |
20 mm (0-3°), 25 mm (74°) Top 25 + 19 mm Bottom |
20 mm (29°) Top 25 mm (30°) |
20 mm 8 mm Engine grille |
Turret | 50* mm (51-54°) 60 mm (55-56°), 200 mm Gun mantlet |
25* + 4 mm (1°) Front 45 + 4 mm Rear |
44 + 4 mm (43-48°) 20 mm (85°) Turret underside |
38 mm Front 20 mm Rear |
Armour | Sides | Roof | ||
Cupola | 60 mm | 60 mm | ||
Composite armour* | Front | Sides | Rear | Roof |
Hull | Front glacis: ~220 mm @ 60° against Kinetic ~600 mm @ 60° against Chemical |
N/A | N/A | N/A |
Turret | Turret front: ~500 mm @ 60° against Kinetic ~600 mm @ 60° against Chemical |
25 mm sections: ~ 140 mm @ 0° against Kinetic ~ 300 mm @ 0° against Chemical |
N/A | N/A |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels, torsion bars, and tracks are 20 mm thick.
- Turret ring is 60 mm thick.
- 20-25 mm RHA plates surround the fuel tanks on the hull sides.
- Hull composite armour configuration is 50 mm RHA + 200 mm NERA elements + 80 mm RHA.
- Front turret compsoite armour configuration is 50 mm RHA + 600 mm NERA elements + 110 mm RHA.
- Turret side compsoite armour configuration is 25 mm RHA + 300 mm NERA elements + 80 mm RHA.
Mobility
The Challenger's speed sets it apart from the previous Chieftain tanks, as it is capable of reaching 56 km/h on roads and 46 km/h off-road. Reverse speed is also a noticeable improvement from the Chieftain line. Despite this, the 62 ton mass of this vehicle makes it the slowest of its high-tier contemporaries (e.g. Abrams, Leopard, and Type 90).
Mobility characteristic | ||
---|---|---|
Weight (tons) | Add-on Armor weight (tons) |
Max speed (km/h) |
62.0 | N/A | 62 (AB) |
56 (RB/SB) | ||
Engine power (horsepower) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 1,860 | ____ |
Realistic/Simulator | 1,061 | 1,200 |
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | ||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
Arcade | 30.00 | __.__ |
Realistic/Simulator | 17.11 | 19.35 |
Armaments
Main armament
120 mm L11A5 | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Capacity | Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance |
Stabilizer | ||
52 | -10°/+20° | ±180° | Two-plane | ||
Turret rotation speed (°/s) | |||||
Mode | Stock | Upgraded | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. |
Arcade | 29.50 | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
Realistic | 18.40 | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||
Stock | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
8.70 | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack | |||||
10m | 100m | 500m | 1000m | 1500m | 2000m | ||
Shot L15A5 | APDS | 320 | 315 | 305 | 294 | 280 | 270 |
Shell L31A7 | HESH | 152 | 152 | 152 | 152 | 152 | 152 |
Shot L23 | APFSDS | 410 | 408 | 405 | 400 | 390 | 380 |
Shot L23A1 | APFSDS | 396 | 394 | 387 | 376 | 367 | 357 |
Shell details | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Fuse delay
in m: |
Fuse sensitivity
in mm: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: |
Ricochet: | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
Shot L15A5 | APDS | 1,370 | 7.6 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +1.5° | 75° | 78° | 80° |
Shell L31A7 | HESH | 670 | 17 | 0.4 | 0.1 | 4,100 | +0° | 73° | 77° | 80° |
Shot L23 | APFSDS | 1,535 | 3.9 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +1.5° | 76° | 77° | 78° |
Shot L23A1 | APFSDS | 1,535 | 3.9 | N/A | N/A | N/A | +1.5° | 78° | 80° | 81° |
Smoke characteristic | ||||||
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Ammunition | Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Screen radius in m |
Screen time in s |
Screen hold time in s: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
L34 | 670 | 17 | 20 | 5 | 25 | 50 |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
Ammo Part |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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52 | XX (X+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | (+) | no |
Machine guns
7.62 mm L37A2 | ||||||
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Commander's cupola mount | ||||||
Capacity (Belt capacity) | Fire rate (shots/minute) |
Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance | |||
2,300 (100) | 650 | -10°/+50° | ±120° |
7.62 mm L8A1 | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Coaxial mount | ||||||
Capacity (Belt capacity) | Fire rate (shots/minute) |
Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance | |||
2,300 (200) | 600 | N/A | N/A |
Usage in battles
New drivers of the Challenger 1 will appreciate a similar play style to the earlier Chieftain tanks, particularly the Chieftain Mk 10. Most of the armour's weakpoints could be minimized by assuming a hull-down position on the incline of a hill, and using the Challenger's excellent -10° of gun depression to keep the gun on target. This will increase the angle of the turret and thus increase the effective thickness of the back-plate on the turret.
When encountering common enemies:
- T-64B: L23A1 APFSDS can theoretically penetrate the UFP, but it is difficult. The drivers port weakspot is the recommended target from the front. If not possible, aim for the breech/cannon barrel to eliminate the threat of return fire
- T-64A (1971): APFSDS will go right through the front of this tank, but the Challenger can still be penetrated by the top APFSDS (3BM12) in the weak spot on the turret's leading edge.
- Leopard 2K: Probably the most dangerous opponent, as its APFSDS can go right through the upper front plate and parts of the turret. Shoot anywhere but the front of the turret, unless trying to take out the Leo's cannon barrel.
- Leopard A1A1: Its APFSDS poses a risk to the weakspot on the turret, but only if it gets the first shot off. Shoot anywhere.
Modules
The FPE module should be a priority, since the fuel tanks are located all around the hull above the tracks, meaning that the tank will be set on fire often. This comes with added protection, however, as the fuel tanks will frequently absorb most shrapnel - protecting the crew and ammunition from the occasional side-shot - giving the player ample time to return fire and eliminate the threat.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good composite armour for both kinetic and chemical protection for both hull and turret
- Very accurate main gun with good gun stabilizers and decent stock APDS shell
- Very good mobility for it weight and size
- Good APFSDS shells
- Good forward and reverse speed
Cons:
- Large target
- Driver's optics weakspot on the upper frontal plate
- No composite armour on lower glacis plate and rear of the turret
- Average rate of fire
- HESH shell largely useless
- Very thin armour protection
- Ammunition takes a lot of space (easy to hit)
History
In 1977, the Iranian government ordered an improved version of the Chieftain tank, which was arguably the best main battle tank (MBT) in service at its time. The Chieftain offered unparalleled protection and firepower; however, its mobility was lackluster and something its successor needed to improve upon. In response, the engineers at the MVEE created the Chieftain Mk.5(P), from which three additional prototypes were created. It was one of these prototypes that would become the basis for the Challenger 1. Unfortunately, after the Iranian Revolution of 1979 and the fall of the Shah, Iran canceled its order for an improved Chieftain. In addition, a parallel British tank project (the MBT90) was also abandoned, and the British Army quickly became a new potential customer for a new MBT.
The Challenger's design was based on the cancelled project called "Shir-2”" planned for export to Iran, and retained its deadly 120mm gun and superb armour. The Challenger was also equipped with Chobham armour, a composite armour made from multiple layers of different materials. The additional materials gave the Challenger its distinctive, heavily-sloped armour on the front of the turret and upper glacis. The Challenger’s mobility and off-road capabilities were significantly improved with the installation of a new 1,200 horsepower Rolls-Royce engine and hydropneumatic suspension. The Challenger 1 entered production and service in 1983. Production ended in 1990, having yielded a total of about 420 vehicles. It served primarily with British forces during the Gulf War. It was also used in peacekeeping missions in Bosnia-Herzegovina during the mid 1990s, and Jordan still operates a number of Challenger 1 tanks to this day. The Challenger 1 was withdrawn from active service by 2001 and later replaced by the Challenger 2.
- From Devblog
Media
An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
[Devblog] Challenger 1: A Worthy Heir
Britain medium tanks | |
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Valentine | Valentine I · Valentine IX · Valentine XI |
Cromwell | Cromwell I · Cromwell V · Cromwell V (RP-3) |
Cromwell derivatives | Challenger · Avenger · Comet I · Comet I "Iron Duke IV" · Charioteer Mk VII |
Centurion | Centurion Mk 1 · Centurion Mk.2 · Centurion Mk 3 · Centurion Mk.5 AVRE · Centurion Mk 10 · Centurion Action X · FV4202 |
Vickers MBT | Vickers Mk.1 · Vickers Mk.3 · Vickers Mk.7 |
Chieftain | Chieftain Mk 3 · Chieftain Mk 5 · Chieftain Mk 10 |
Challenger 1 | Challenger Mk.2 · Challenger Mk.3 · Challenger DS |
Challenger 2 | Challenger 2 · Challenger 2 (2F) · Challenger 2 TES · Challenger 2 OES · Challenger 2E · Challenger 2 Black Night |
Challenger 3 | Challenger 3 TD |
Australia | A.C.I · A.C.IV · Centurion Mk.5/1 |
South Africa | Olifant Mk.1A · Olifant Mk.2 · TTD |
India | Vijayanta · Bhishma TWMP |
Israel | ▄Sho't Kal Dalet |
Jordan | Khalid |
Sweden | ▄Strv 81 (RB 52) |
USA | Grant I · Sherman II · Sherman Firefly · Sherman IC "Trzyniec" |