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TAM 2IP essentially plays as its tech tree counterpart. While it can still perform well as a regular main battle tank, using it this way would be just wasting its potential. It's a fast, potent flanker, but with the addition of a powerful DM33 round, TAM 2IP is also a potent sniper. | TAM 2IP essentially plays as its tech tree counterpart. While it can still perform well as a regular main battle tank, using it this way would be just wasting its potential. It's a fast, potent flanker, but with the addition of a powerful DM33 round, TAM 2IP is also a potent sniper. | ||
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While the TAM 2IP performs great at longer ranges, its performance is below average on CQC maps with corridors and streets that do not allow it to exploit its mobility, like those found on Advance to Rhine. Better armoured tanks in general outperform TAM 2IP by wide margin in these environments. Players should focus on ambushing enemy tanks. TAM 2IP turret placement on the back of the tank and acceleration can be exploited in this scenario well - by reversing out of cover, your engine is still protected while you expose only a small part of your tank. Another viable option is to support their allies. Let them take a shot, and as soon as you see the enemy tank return fire, lunge forward and send the enemy back to the garage. | While the TAM 2IP performs great at longer ranges, its performance is below average on CQC maps with corridors and streets that do not allow it to exploit its mobility, like those found on Advance to Rhine. Better armoured tanks in general outperform TAM 2IP by wide margin in these environments. Players should focus on ambushing enemy tanks. TAM 2IP turret placement on the back of the tank and acceleration can be exploited in this scenario well - by reversing out of cover, your engine is still protected while you expose only a small part of your tank. Another viable option is to support their allies. Let them take a shot, and as soon as you see the enemy tank return fire, lunge forward and send the enemy back to the garage. | ||
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Revision as of 22:16, 13 June 2021
Contents
Description
The Tanque Argentino Mediano 2IP is a premium rank VI German light tank with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Red Skies". Sitting between TAM and TAM 2C in terms of performance, this tank is essentially an earlier TAM model with access to more modern ammunition and add-on armor for increased protection.
General info
Survivability and armour
Base armor of TAM 2IP is very thin, just 11mm plate angled at 74° on the upper frontal glacis, and 15mm of armor on the sides. Turret is not something to boast about either - the strongest plate being a gun mantlet with a 30mm plate and sides being 25mm thin.
On the bright side, the 2IP version is fitted with Iron Wall add-on composite armor. This variable thickness armor package dramatically increases effectiveness of armor against chemical munitions, but does little to protect against kinetic penetrators.
Front
Most noticeable increase in protection is on the upper plate of the hull - even newer HEAT rounds and older ATGMs may struggle to penetrate the hull armor.
Sadly, add-on protection on the turret is not enough to defeat those same munitions.
Frontal arc protection against autocannons is mostly great, but occasional lucky shots can penetrate the turret ring.
Players also must be aware of the giant weak spot that is the driver's area - it is only 11mm plate angled at 74° and it is not protected by add-on armor, allowing vehicles like Dardo to get through.
Sides
While TAM 2IP is now resistant to 12.7mm rounds on the hull side, overall side protection remains poor, as it can still get easily penetrated by anything larger than 12.7mm.
Crew
When looking at TAM 2IP from the front, one can see that on the left side, the commander sits directly behind the gunner, while the loader sits almost directly behind the driver on the right side.
Both gunner and commander are protected by the transmision and the engine (similar to Merkava tanks); while that won't protect them from most kinetic munitions, it can negate shrapnel from older chemical and HESH rounds that manages to get through add-on armor.
Driver is very vulnerable as he sits behind an 11mm thin plate angled at 74°, with a first-stage ammo rack and loader directly behind him. Driver's area is not protected by add-on armor either.
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armor
- Add-on composite armor
| Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 11 mm (77°) Upper glacis - Engine access panel
32 mm (77°) Upper glacis - Sides 32 mm (29°) Lower glacis - Top 32 mm (60°) Lower glacis - Bottom |
15 mm (30°) Top
15 mm Bottom |
11 mm (23°) Upper plate
11 mm (27°) Lower plate |
11-32 mm (13°) Front glacis
11 mm Crew compartment 5 mm Radiator vents |
| Turret | 50 mm (5-35°) Turret front
30 mm + 30 mm (51-63°) Mantlet Front 25 mm (7-10°) Mantlet Sides 20 mm (79°) Roof glacis 30 mm (cylindrical) Gunner periscope |
25 mm (24-27°) Crew Compartment
15 mm (27°) Bustle 25 mm Cupola well |
15 mm (22°)
11 mm (79°) Turret underside |
20 (11°) Roof glacis
11 mm |
| Cupola | 35 mm (cylindrical) | ___ mm | ___ mm | 35 mm Outer ring
11 mm Centre |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick
- Tracks are 20 mm thick
- Side skirts are 4mm thick
- Air intake on the right side is 5mm thick
| Composite add-on armor | Front | Side |
|---|---|---|
| Hull | Upper glacis
~90 mm Kinetic ~520 mm Chemical |
Upper side
~45 mm Kinetic ~295 mm Chemical |
| Turret | Turret face~70-140 mm Kinetic
~70-340 mm Chemical |
Turret side
~50 mm Kinetic ~260mm Chemical |
Mobility
Even with additional protection, TAM 2IP suffers no decrease to its mobility when compared to its tech tree counterpart; thus is more mobile and agile than its main competitor, Leopard A1A1. This mobility allows TAM 2IP to perform many different roles, be it flanking, scouting, rushing favorable positions or relocating.
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 84 | 84 | 33 | _,___ | 1,374 | __.__ | 41.64 |
| Realistic | 75 | 75 | _,___ | 720 | __.__ | 21.82 | |
Modifications and economy
2 × 130 / 160 / 210 % 2 × 220 / 220 / 220 % | Mobility | Protection | Firepower | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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As a premium vehicle, TAM 2IP comes with all modifications unlocked.
Armaments
Main armament
Main armament consists of FMK.4 Modelo 1L gun; fully stabilised gun that is standard to the TAM family. Unlike TAM however, it has access to DM33, 3rd best NATO round available for 105mm guns and a very potent round at its BR. TAM 2IP also comes equipped with a laser range finder - this gadget allows it to acquire targets distance, thus allowing long range shots, immensely fast.
| 105 mm FMK.4 Modelo 1L | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
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| Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
| Arcade | 50 | -7°/+18° | ±180° | Two-plane | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ | _.__ |
| Realistic | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | __._ | ||||||||
Ammunition
- DM12 HEAT-FS - HEAT round does not lose penetration with distance travelled. Unlike kinetic penetrators, it has one downside: given that it is a chemical round, its fuse is highly sensitive. With the emergence of composite and reactive armour, it quickly became obsolete in the anti-tank role. Requires careful aiming to properly damage newer tanks, though it can hold its own while fighting older tanks, lighter vehicles and low-flying helicopters.
- DM502 HESH - This round was always plagued by a plethora of problems: low velocity, low penetration, inconsistent mechanics and sensitive fuse make this round gimmicky at best. That being said, with the overpressure mechanic, this round can be used in CQB against light vehicles with devastating effect.
- DM23 APFSDS - This round allows the player to engage modern tanks more reliably, since it performs better against composite and reactive armour. While penetration is sufficient relative to TAM 2IP's BR, there is simply no use for this round as its direct upgrade is available from the get go.
- DM33 APFSDS - Best round available to the TAM 2IP and third best NATO round available for 105 mm cannons. It allows the player to engage any enemies at the TAM 2IP's BR at any range reliably. Even higher BR vehicles are not safe. Player should be of note that this round can easily over penetrate light vehicles such as BMP-2 or SPAAGs, so aiming at vital components is preferred in order to create shrapnel necessary to destroy them.
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
| 10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
| DM12 | HEATFS | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 | 400 |
| DM502 | HESH | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 | 127 |
| DM23 | APFSDS | 337 | 335 | 330 | 322 | 314 | 306 |
| DM33 | APFSDS | 408 | 405 | 398 | 389 | 379 | 370 |
| Shell details | |||||||||
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| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | |||||||
| DM12 | HEATFS | 1,173 | 10.5 | 0.05 | 0.1 | 1,270 | 65° | 72° | 77° |
| DM502 | HESH | 732 | 14.85 | 0.05 | 0.1 | 4,310 | 73° | 77° | 80° |
| DM23 | APFSDS | 1,455 | 3.79 | N/A | N/A | N/A | 78° | 80° | 81° |
| DM33 | APFSDS | 1,455 | 3.79 | N/A | N/A | N/A | 78° | 80° | 81° |
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 50 | 41 (+9) | 30 (+20) | 21 (+11) | 1 (+49) | No |
Notes:
- Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
- Racks 3 and 4 are first stage ammunition racks (29 shells total), meaning they will deplete first (in the order of 3 then 4) but will replenish from the other racks, starting with rack 1 and then rack 2.
Machine guns
The small calibre of the FN MAG 60-40 machine guns make them largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. They still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.
| 7.62 mm FN MAG 60-40 | ||||
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| Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
| Coaxial | 2,000 (200) | 600 | N/A | N/A |
| Commander cupola | 2,000(200) | 600 | -10°/+60° | ±120° |
Usage in battles
TAM 2IP essentially plays as its tech tree counterpart. While it can still perform well as a regular main battle tank, using it this way would be just wasting its potential. It's a fast, potent flanker, but with the addition of a powerful DM33 round, TAM 2IP is also a potent sniper.
Sniping:
Players should abuse TAM 2IPs mobility to reach advantegous positions and start picking off players. DM33 is overkill at BR 8.7 (only T-62M-1 providing better performance) and coupled with laser range finder, TAM 2IP can snipe really well. While it can't fight as well in hull down positions as Leopard A1A1 due to slightly worse gun depression, it can still make great use of cover, as it negates its biggest weakness - armor.
Flanking:
Due to TAM 2IPs excellent mobility, stabilised gun and powerful round, TAM 2IP is a potent flanker. Add-on armor allows it to shrug off most autocannon fire from IFVs, as those will be common flankers at this BR. Coupled with scouting ability, TAM 2IP employing hit and run tactics on flanks can become enemy teams worst nightmare.
CQB:
While the TAM 2IP performs great at longer ranges, its performance is below average on CQC maps with corridors and streets that do not allow it to exploit its mobility, like those found on Advance to Rhine. Better armoured tanks in general outperform TAM 2IP by wide margin in these environments. Players should focus on ambushing enemy tanks. TAM 2IP turret placement on the back of the tank and acceleration can be exploited in this scenario well - by reversing out of cover, your engine is still protected while you expose only a small part of your tank. Another viable option is to support their allies. Let them take a shot, and as soon as you see the enemy tank return fire, lunge forward and send the enemy back to the garage.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- DM33 available, which is more than competitive at this BR
- Same mobility as regular TAM, despite add-on armor
- Wide selection of ammunition
Cons:
- Despite add-on armor, protection remains somewhat poor
- No thermals
- Lacks M416 smoke shell, limiting its tactical potential
History
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Media
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See also
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