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{{Specs-Card|code=b-17e}}
 
{{Specs-Card|code=b-17e}}
 
{{About
 
{{About
|about=aircraft '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
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| about = American bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
|usage=other uses
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| usage = other versions
|link=B-17 (Family)
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| link = B-17 (Family)
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American heavy bomber bomber {{Battle-rating}}. This bomber has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} American bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%"
|-
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
! colspan="8" | Characteristics
 
|-
 
! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
|-
 
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
|-
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|497||483|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||36.9||37.9||5.8||5.6||600
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded''
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 7,680 m)
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! Stock
! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
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| 496 || 483 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 36.9 || 37.9 || 5.8 || 5.7 || rowspan="2" | 600
! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
 
|-
 
|-
! AB
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! Upgraded
! RB
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| 523 || 510 || 35.1 || 36.0 || 8.7 || 7.2
! AB
 
! RB
 
! AB
 
! RB
 
|-
 
|525||512|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||33.7||33.8||10.6||8.6||600
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
====Details====
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==== Details ====
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
|-
 
|-
! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
! Take-off flap
 
! Landing flap
 
! Air brakes
 
! Arrestor gear
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
 
| ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X    <!-- ✓ -->
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|}
 
|}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="5" | Limits
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! colspan="7" | Limits
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Wings (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear (km/h)
! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="3" | Flaps (km/h)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
|-
 
|-
! +
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
! -
 
 
|-
 
|-
| {{Specs|разрушение|конструкции}} || {{Specs|разрушение|шасси}} ||400|| ~1 || ~1
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 400 || 400 || 249 || ~2 || ~1
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities (km/h)
 
|-
 
|-
! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
|-
 
|-
| < 360 || < 300 || < 323 || > 210
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| < 330 || < 310 || < 270 || > 300
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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! WEP Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
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| 6,180 m || 4,000 hp || 4,708 hp  
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| 6,180 m || 4,000 hp || 4,708 hp
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<!--! colspan="3" | Setting 2
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
|-
 
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" | Setting 3
 
|-
 
! Optimal altitude
 
! 100% Engine power
 
! WEP Engine power
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ?,??? m || ?,??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
|- -->
 
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
<!--Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.-->
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* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.
 
* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.
 
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.
 
* 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
<!--Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.-->
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<!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
 
{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}
 
{{main|AN-M64A1 (500 lb)|AN-M65A1 (1,000 lb)|AN-M66A2 (2,000 lb)}}
  
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordinance:
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
  
 
* 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
 
* 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 6 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
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* 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
* 2 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)
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* 2 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  
 
=== Defensive armament ===
 
=== Defensive armament ===
<!--Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.-->
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<!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' -->
{{main|Browning (7.62 mm)|Browning M2 (12.7 mm)}}
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{{main|M2 Browning (12.7 mm)|Browning (7.62 mm)}}
  
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
 
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by:
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The B-17E Flying Fortress is intended to be used as a high-altitude level bomber in order to target airfields, bases, and land fortifications. Despite its large bomb load, it's not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armored cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When using the B-17E, it is best to fly with another friendly bomber or fighter (if possible) to ensure maximum protection. If you are flying alone, design a secure flight path towards your objective in hopes of not being detected by enemy fighters.
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The B-17E Flying Fortress is intended to be used as a high-altitude level bomber in order to target airfields, bases, and land fortifications. Despite its large bomb load, it's not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armoured cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When using the B-17E, it is best to fly with another friendly bomber or fighter (if possible) to ensure maximum protection. If you are flying alone, design a secure flight path towards your objective in the hopes of not being detected by enemy fighters.
  
The B-17E is designed specifically to withstand the harshest punishment during combat. The bomber itself provides plenty of armour along the fuselage and tail except for the nose, which is the only area that's not protected by any form of protection. Armour ranges from 6.35 mm sheets to a single 38 mm glass plate protecting the tail gunner. Speaking of armour protection, in order to ensure the greatest chance of survival during an interception, you must not move. The B-17E is not designed to execute sharp defensive manoeuvres (turns, dives, and rolls), but rather designed to use its defensive armament provided (consisting of 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm turrets) to fight back against harassing enemy fighters. Some great advice for novice bombardiers is to included incendiary ammunition in your turret belts almost ALWAYS! This crucial precaution will guarantee more lethal firepower coming from your defensive armament, since not only are you penetrating armour, but you are also setting components ablaze.
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The B-17E is designed specifically to withstand the harshest punishment during combat. The bomber itself provides plenty of armour along the fuselage and tail except for the nose, which is the only area that's not protected by any form of protection. The armour ranges from 6.35 mm sheets to a single 38 mm glass plate protecting the tail gunner. Speaking of armour protection, in order to ensure the greatest chance of survival during an interception, you must not move. The B-17E is not designed to execute sharp defensive manoeuvres (turns, dives, and rolls) unlike its predecessor the [[B-25J-20|B-25]], but rather designed to use its defensive armament provided (consisting of 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm turrets) to fight back against harassing enemy fighters. Some great advice for novice bombardiers is to include incendiary ammunition in your turret belts. This crucial precaution will guarantee more lethal firepower coming from your defensive armament, since not only are you penetrating armour, but you are also setting components ablaze. However, the armour and defensive armaments typically won't save you from the high tier interceptors and cannon-armed fighters (especially german heavy fighters/interceptors that are armed with 30 mm cannons and get air spawns) you will face. Since they are all heavily armoured, while possessing the ability to rip your wings off with a few 20 mm cannon shots or one shot you with the 30 mm from 1.5 km away, it is better to just avoid them all together by side climbing and using cloud cover when heading to the enemy base. NEVER head straight to the enemy base because the enemy player will trace your flight path from your spawn point to their base and easily intercept you. Also unlike the B-25, the B-17 does not have particularly effective armour or defensive armament in the front, so if an enemy fighter decides to go head on, try turning away to expose your tail, which is a lot more protected against the incoming fighter. If not then both pilots could get knocked out and send you straight back to the hanger.
  
In conclusion, the B-17E is a great introduction for players using the American bomber line. If used well, the B-17E is a force be reckoned with.
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In conclusion, the B-17E is a great introduction for players using the American bomber line. Although it is not the "immortal gunship" B-17 of old, if used well, the B-17E is a force be reckoned with.
  
===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
! colspan="7" | MEC elements
 
|-
 
|-
! rowspan="2" |Mixer
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! rowspan="2" | Mixer
! rowspan="2" |Pitch
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! rowspan="2" | Pitch
! colspan="3" |Radiator
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! colspan="3" | Radiator
! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! rowspan="2" | Supercharger
! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
 
|-
 
|-
! Oil
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
! Water
 
! Type  
 
 
|-
 
|-
| Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" |Combined|| rowspan="2" | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Not controllable
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Auto control available || Combined || Controllable<br>1 gear || Auto controlled
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===Modules===
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=== Modules ===
As a slow and lumbering heavy bomber the ''Flying Fortress'' relies entirely on its turrets for defence. Without it, the plane is a pinata. Thus ''Protective vests'' should be the first unlock. Further survivability upgrades will make fending of attacks easier but do not think to stand successfully against enemy fighters. So upgrading the bomb load should be second priority. Performance modules can be considered least necessary, it will not go anywhere quick anyway.
 
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="1" | Tier
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! Tier
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
 
! colspan="2" | Flight performance
! colspan="1" | Survivability
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! Survivability
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
! colspan="2" | Weaponry
 
|-
 
|-
 
| I
 
| I
| Fuselage Repair
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| Fuselage repair
 
| Radiator
 
| Radiator
|  
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| Protective vest
|Turret 7 mm
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| Turret 7 mm
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
 
| II
 
| II
|  
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| Compressor
 
| Compressor
 
| Airframe
 
| Airframe
|New 7 mm MGs (turret)
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| New 7 mm MGs (turret)
|LBC-17
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| LBC-17
 
|-
 
|-
 
| III
 
| III
| Wings Repair
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| Wings repair
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
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|Turret 12 mm
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| Turret 12 mm
|SBC-17
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| SBC-17
 
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|-
 
| IV
 
| IV
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| Engine Injection
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| Cover
 
| Cover
|New 12 mm MGs (turret)
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| New 12 mm MGs (turret)
|MBC-17
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| MBC-17
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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As a slow and lumbering heavy bomber, the ''Flying Fortress'' relies entirely on its turrets for defence. Without it, the plane is a piñata. Thus, ''Protective vests'' should be the first unlock. Further survivability upgrades will make fending off attacks easier but do not think to stand successfully against enemy fighters. So upgrading the bomb load should be second priority. Performance modules can be considered least necessary, it will not go anywhere quick anyway.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Multiple engines (preserves speed when damaged)
 
* Multiple engines (preserves speed when damaged)
 
* Very sturdy fuselage able to soak up heavy damage
 
* Very sturdy fuselage able to soak up heavy damage
* Calibers below 12.7 mm are ineffective against it
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* Calibres below 12.7 mm are ineffective against it
 
* Good speed
 
* Good speed
 
* Defensive armaments provide all-around coverage
 
* Defensive armaments provide all-around coverage
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* Wings are large and vulnerable
 
* Wings are large and vulnerable
 
* Low speed
 
* Low speed
* Weak against 20 mm cannons
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* Few shots of 20 mm+ cannons filled with explosives are needed to cut off a wing
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* Engines will overheat at 100%
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
  
 
=== In-game description ===
 
=== In-game description ===
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The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets.
  
"The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets.
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But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed.
 
 
But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed.  
 
  
Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F. "
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Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F.
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
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{{AirManufacturer Boeing}}
 
{{USA bombers}}
 
{{USA bombers}}

Latest revision as of 19:26, 23 July 2020

RANK 5 BRITAIN
Hunter FGA.9 PACK
B-17E Flying Fortress
b-17e.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
5.7/4.7/5.3BR
9 peopleCrew
30.8 tTake-off weight
Flight characteristics
11 156 mCeiling
4 х Wright R-1820-65Engine
RadialType
airCooling system
Speed of destruction
515 km/hStructural
290 km/hGear
Defensive armament
12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun2 х Turret
400 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gunTurret
500 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun3 х Turret
1 000 roundsAmmunition
750 shots/minFire rate
7.62 mm Browning machine gunTurret
500 roundsAmmunition
1 000 shots/minFire rate
Suspended armament
8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombSetup 1
12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombSetup 2
6 x 1000 lb AN-M65A1 bombSetup 3
2 x 2000 lb AN-M66A2 bombSetup 4
Economy
40 000 Rp icon.pngResearch
150 000 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png26 250 / 33 022/5 200 / 6 541/1 430 / 1 798Repair
43 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
150 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
700 Ge icon.pngAces
154 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
580 % Sl icon.png370 % Sl icon.png120 % Sl icon.png
This page is about the American bomber B-17E. For other versions, see B-17 (Family).

Description

GarageImage B-17E.jpg


The B-17E Flying Fortress is a rank III American bomber with a battle rating of 5.3 (AB), 4.7 (RB), and 5.7 (SB). It has been in the game since the start of the Open Beta Test prior to Update 1.27.

General info

Flight performance

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 7,680 m)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 496 483 11 156 36.9 37.9 5.8 5.7 600
Upgraded 523 510 35.1 36.0 8.7 7.2

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
515 290 400 400 249 ~2 ~1
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 330 < 310 < 270 > 300
Compressor (RB/SB)
Setting 1
Optimal altitude 100% Engine power WEP Engine power
6,180 m 4,000 hp 4,708 hp

Survivability and armour

  • 6.35 mm Steel plate behind nose gunner.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plates behind pilots.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plates behind dorsal gunners.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of beam gunners.
  • 6.35 mm Steel plates in front of tail gunner.
  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass in front of tail gunner.
  • 38 mm Bulletproof glass ball turret.

Armaments

Suspended armament

The B-17E can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 8 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 12 x 500 lb AN-M64A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 1,000 lb AN-M65A1 bombs (6,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb AN-M66A2 bombs (4,000 lb total)

Defensive armament

The B-17E is defended by:

  • 1 x 7.62 mm Browning machine gun, nose turret (500 rpg)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, front dorsal turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, rear dorsal turret (500 rpg)
  • 1 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, 2 x beam turret (400 rpg = 800 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, ventral turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun, tail turret (500 rpg = 1,000 total)

Usage in battles

The B-17E Flying Fortress is intended to be used as a high-altitude level bomber in order to target airfields, bases, and land fortifications. Despite its large bomb load, it's not recommended to target moving ground units, such as tanks or armoured cars, especially when they are travelling in tight columns due to the inaccuracy of your bombs at high altitudes and the ability for the AI on the ground to perform evasive manoeuvres when bombs are falling onto their position. When using the B-17E, it is best to fly with another friendly bomber or fighter (if possible) to ensure maximum protection. If you are flying alone, design a secure flight path towards your objective in the hopes of not being detected by enemy fighters.

The B-17E is designed specifically to withstand the harshest punishment during combat. The bomber itself provides plenty of armour along the fuselage and tail except for the nose, which is the only area that's not protected by any form of protection. The armour ranges from 6.35 mm sheets to a single 38 mm glass plate protecting the tail gunner. Speaking of armour protection, in order to ensure the greatest chance of survival during an interception, you must not move. The B-17E is not designed to execute sharp defensive manoeuvres (turns, dives, and rolls) unlike its predecessor the B-25, but rather designed to use its defensive armament provided (consisting of 12.7 mm and 7.62 mm turrets) to fight back against harassing enemy fighters. Some great advice for novice bombardiers is to include incendiary ammunition in your turret belts. This crucial precaution will guarantee more lethal firepower coming from your defensive armament, since not only are you penetrating armour, but you are also setting components ablaze. However, the armour and defensive armaments typically won't save you from the high tier interceptors and cannon-armed fighters (especially german heavy fighters/interceptors that are armed with 30 mm cannons and get air spawns) you will face. Since they are all heavily armoured, while possessing the ability to rip your wings off with a few 20 mm cannon shots or one shot you with the 30 mm from 1.5 km away, it is better to just avoid them all together by side climbing and using cloud cover when heading to the enemy base. NEVER head straight to the enemy base because the enemy player will trace your flight path from your spawn point to their base and easily intercept you. Also unlike the B-25, the B-17 does not have particularly effective armour or defensive armament in the front, so if an enemy fighter decides to go head on, try turning away to expose your tail, which is a lot more protected against the incoming fighter. If not then both pilots could get knocked out and send you straight back to the hanger.

In conclusion, the B-17E is a great introduction for players using the American bomber line. Although it is not the "immortal gunship" B-17 of old, if used well, the B-17E is a force be reckoned with.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Auto control available
Not controllable
Not auto controlled
Controllable
Auto control available
Combined Controllable
1 gear
Auto controlled

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Protective vest Turret 7 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs (turret) LBC-17
III Wings repair Engine Turret 12 mm SBC-17
IV Cover New 12 mm MGs (turret) MBC-17

As a slow and lumbering heavy bomber, the Flying Fortress relies entirely on its turrets for defence. Without it, the plane is a piñata. Thus, Protective vests should be the first unlock. Further survivability upgrades will make fending off attacks easier but do not think to stand successfully against enemy fighters. So upgrading the bomb load should be second priority. Performance modules can be considered least necessary, it will not go anywhere quick anyway.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Large bomb load
  • Heavy defensive armament
  • Multiple engines (preserves speed when damaged)
  • Very sturdy fuselage able to soak up heavy damage
  • Calibres below 12.7 mm are ineffective against it
  • Good speed
  • Defensive armaments provide all-around coverage
  • Performs well at high altitudes

Cons:

  • Cumbersome target
  • Poor climb rate
  • Nose is extremely vulnerable
  • Cannons are very effective against it
  • Multiple engines mean multiple fires
  • Sluggish controls and very difficult to manoeuvre
  • Wings are large and vulnerable
  • Low speed
  • Few shots of 20 mm+ cannons filled with explosives are needed to cut off a wing
  • Engines will overheat at 100%

History

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In-game description

The legendary B-17 American heavy bombers were rightly called Flying Fortresses. This four-engined heavy bomber was an all-metal hero, an extremely durable aircraft that could return to the airfield with just one engine, riddled with bullets.

But the early models of the B-17 had a significant blind spot in the rear, so fighter support was required. To solve this problem, the B-17E was produced, and a turret with two 12.7mm machine guns was installed in the tail section of the aircraft. To do this, the fuselage size had to be increased. In addition, to improve control of the plane, the tail was broadened and a larger vertical fin was installed.

Although it lost some speed when compared to the B-17D, the new model fared favorably with its new protection and thus became the first truly mass-produced B-17. From September 5, 1941 to May 1942, 512 aircraft were made on the production line, before the development of the B-17F.

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See also

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